Controversial view but IF we were to change our badge, then I wouldnt want us to go down the route of a boring circular clip art style thing. I'd either like a refurbishment of our current badge - bolder, brighter, less cluttered but keeping the same layout and shape. Alternatively I'd like us to adopt a variant of the town coat of arms worn in the 1960 Cup final, but with a modern twist. I've always liked the Blackburn Rugby Club badge as it is a twist on the town arms and think something similar would be nice as a Rovers badge. Ticks a lot of boxes. Red rose, Blackburn arms with the water and bees, blue and white badge. Simple yet effective. Could be used as a modern badge but very much traditional. Just need to add the Latin motto and 1875 onto the bottom of it and it would look decent.

Start of the season I'd have shook hands on safety and I've seen nothing to change that. I think we are capable of midtable and may well end up there but could easily get sucked into the relegation pack. Too many issues and inconsistency to expect any more. A shame because clubs with lesser resources are going to be up there which shows it can be done. Fortunately we aren't consistently poor and we can grind out results particularly at home which should see us to 50 points

Spot on. Unfortunately some have an agenda to try and reduce expectations and absolve the manager and players of any pressure or expectations. The manager himself helps create that mentality by enhancing the size, stature and calibre of the opposition with nonsense about their "passionate crowds" etc. If you want to go anywhere you aim and try to win every game and don't set out for a point or write games off because the are 'tough'. As you point out, there's a case for every fixture being tough in one form or another. Every away game, every recent Premier League team etc. Like being happy with a draw from every away game but if you only pick up 23 away points all season there's little room for error in the home games.

Doesn't play for the right club.

I admit I'm not the most optimistic person and I tend to have high expectations and am often critical of Rovers. But that criticism is done behind.closed doors either at home, to friends who support Rovers or on here to fellow Rovers fans. I'll never criticise the club to fans of other clubs and will never put Rovers down or big up rival clubs in the presence of others. As I've said before, a line is crossed in my mind when the manager and spokesman for Blackburn Rovers is going on the website and all over the media saying things like: We shouldn't be 'intimidated' by West Brom's 'passionate crowd' Middlesbrough and Stoke are 'huge clubs' that we are looking forward to 'competing' with Bristol City sell out every week and get 30,000 on watching roaring their team on. All those things are not only incorrect but needless and self-deprecating. I don't know what he is trying to achieve by lavishing false praise or statuses on run of the mill 2nd division sides no bigger or better than us but I don't want to see it in public. Anyone would think we were Burton Albion or Yeovil having a brief foray into the 2nd division way beyond any expectations. Don't see Harris coming out with tripe about West Brom's passionate crowds. Just an honest assessment that it's a tough game.

Mowbray said he wanted more experience and signed one with less. If you don't want people to pick up on those sort of inconsistencies then don't say those things.

No, just don't enjoy a weekly dose of drivel usually around how good, well supported, formidable the opposition are. I expect more self respect.

They've gone to West Brom and got results, without building Albion up into something special. Mowbray is now making out to be some monumental task when facing their 'passionate' fans.

Huddersfield at home moved to 12:30 for tv so another poor gate

1100 or so sold according to Rovers. Expected a few more to be travelling but maybe the fans are 'intimidated' by West Brom's 'passionate' crowd. I've just about had enough of Mowbray's drivel which is eagerly lapped up by the website and Telegraph. Always putting Rovers down, dampening expectations and promoting our rivals as bigger and better than they are. Wish he would just focus on doing what Neil Harris and Jose Gomes have done recently.

If we get to Xmas and have injuries and suspensions and don't fancy throwing the youngsters in we could simply inform the opposition that we aren't playing and will be postponing the game. The League cannot allow that to go unpunished.

People might argue that it doesn't matter because they are going down anyway but I don't agree. Bolton are the sort of club that even on a limited budget will be able to bring in good quality League One players. Certainly better than what Stanley and Wimbledon can afford. A half decent manager along with a feel good factor of new ownership and they could survive at the expense of other clubs. Can imagine trouble will come then.

I'm bored of the succession of younger end players Mowbray has brought to the club at considerable expense, rarely put out onto the pitch and spends more time publicly criticising them than playing them. Not fit enough, not clever enough, not working hard enough. Why bother signing them?

Hold on, we've just been through a 2 month long summer window and failed to add the depth needed, opting instead to retain Leutwiler and sign only Walton on loan. Why would we bring in a keeper in January? We've had plenty of time to do that. If we sign this Garrett even as a 'stop gap' he will be here until the summer. I disagree with signing players on the hope they'll be here for the season but never be needed. Sign an extra keeper by all means but one good enough for the League and good enough to replace Walton if needed.

So we get to the play offs and Walton picks up an injury. We go into 2-3 season or career defining games with Leutwiler and the 'stop gap's as our keeper options. Personally I'd prefer someone like Ali Al Habsi to call upon like WBA have just signed.

But Walton is less experienced than Raya which is completely the opposite of what Mowbray said he wanted when allowing Raya to leave. I'm glad you've arrived at the crux of the issue. Someone of proven quality would command wages whereas a cheap and cheerful ex-Crewe keeper won't. Do you really expect us to ever make serious progress if we operate on that basis? We're in a position to lavish £12 million out on two young forwards neither of whom play where they should yet we're scrimping on the goalkeeper position signing loans and stopgaps on cheap wages to 'fill in' or 'do a job for a while'.

Why not just sign a goalkeeper good enough for the level we are at now rather than stop gap's?

I'm struggling with this one. We loan our own player out to Northampton then sign this mon as a 'stop gap' 3rd choice keeper. Some come down from Mowbray's proclamations of the summer seeking proven experienced quality and more than one. We've added one inexperienced one on loan, kept Leutwiler on who isnt good enough and now we're going after an ex Crewe stop gap?

Bury will vanish as Hereford, Darlington and Stockport did from the national consciousness. The national media and Sky Sports have taken interest this week because it fills a couple of days of headlines but they'll soon lose interest and get back to talking about people being nasty to Paul Pogba or how many millions Spurs are planning on spending in January. You know, the really important stuff. The only ones who will maintain interest are the fans of the club who will have to either rebuild or do something else with their free time. Even the local politicians aren't that bothered really, they just recognise the positive PR to be had in rallying to the cause now. Havent heard their MP or Council leaders say much over the last 2-3 years as the clubs existence was gambled away. Shame but that's the London-Premier League centric media for you. Would anyone on here be as bothered if it was Crawley or Newport going out? There would be sympathy of course and concern but not on the scale we've seen for Bury because they are just down the road.

Getting a bit fed up waiting for Sky to announce their next batch of TV games. As it stands they have announced up to but not including 5th October. We are down to play QPR away and I want to book the train before the prices go up. I don't want to risk it because knowing my luck they'll move the game for TV. They are supposed to announce the TV games a minimum of 5 weeks before it takes place. That's this Saturday so they're pushing it right to the wire.

Amazing what clubs can do. Reading also restrict away followings to a couple of thousand in half the stand behind the goal and wedge them between the two most vocal areas of home fans. Would be easy for them to move home fans to other parts of the ground and open up the full stand behind the goal for 4000 away followings but they refuse it.

West Brom have failed to win in 3 home games this season v Millwall x2 and Reading, scoring 3 goals. Expect the usual lowering of expectations and bigging up of the opposition but once again this isn't Barcelona at the Nou Camp. Set ourselves up correctly and we can get a result. More mind numbing backward and sideways passing and we won't.

The 'consultants' they brought into the club in the summer of 2017 were accountants. So well placed to advise the owners on a financial strategy but I'm not sure how qualified they were to advise on a footballing strategy. 'Invest in promising young players who will grow in value and be worth a lot more in a few years' isnt a football strategy, it's a business one. In any event the owners already did all that under Bowyer so it is hardly something new to them. Many people have tried and failed to run football clubs on the advice of non footballing people on non footballing agendas. It rarely works. As far as I can see there has never been any football expertise other than the manager they stumbled across and like.

Some heartbreaking interviews on NW Tonight outside Gigg Lane. Normal down to earth football fans who have followed their club their entire lives. Would have been easy to catch the bus to the Etihad or Old Trafford but stick to their local team. Terrible shame. Hopefully now they regroup and rebuild under transparent ownership. The least the authorities should be doing is ensuring that Gigg Lane isn't demolished and built on and is preserved as a football ground for the phoenix club. Doubt that will happen as the suits will have their claws into that for housing in no time.

Nah he's a dingle, based in Blackburn. Never trust a dingle.