Dreams of 1995

Coyle was the main reason but not the only blueboy. The squad simply wasn't good enough over the course of 46 games and that's why we got relegated. Our squad is better now, our manager is better now but it certainly doesn't mean we can't fall into a relegation battle. Better teams than this have been sent down before I can assure you of that.

He played in Huddersfield's team when they got promoted. Decent player. Can't remember if he was a wide man or not but know he has a bit about him. Decent.

Quote that for me please.

If we win the league next year can we then be promoted into the Championship?

We should be over the moon she's split from Dack. I said it when they got together women like her are fucking trouble. No doubt in his ear about a move back down London so she can mingle with the elite. Good riddance to the plastic talentless shitebag.

Jack Harrison's 4 games at Championship level definitely, 100%, undoubtedly, irrefutably, undeniably makes him a better signing than Marcus Maddison will be.... ....according to Chaddy.

Man City's youngsters gave Liverpool a good 60 minutes last night. Be interesting to see if our lad played. If our lad exists, that is.

Maybe he saw the ST sales and thought "well, I can spend!"

That is exactly the case. Financial Fair Play allows clubs like Derby to flaunt the rules to gamble on promotion and, if they don't, reign themselves back in within 3. Bournemouth gambled, got up and paid the fine with the substantial prize on offer in the PL. Also notice how Derby County's wages went up £10m in a single year. Isn't that actually deliberately flaunting FFP rules?

I don't know if you are being purposely disingenuous or actually aren't getting it. The £11m you are claiming they gain per season in ST sales doesn't 100% go on transfer sales. You have policing, staffing, power etc (general overheads of a business) to deduce from that (which you conveniently summed up as half a million hahahahaha). Likewise, you also get further income from commercial activity/sponsorship. The £80m sum also doesn't include additional fees that come with any transfer (ie: huge agent fees, signing on fees, bonuses). They, like pretty much every Championship club, fails to turn a profit. Derby CountyCompany name: The Derby County Football ClubOwned by: Sevco 5112, owned by Candy Crush tycoon Mel MorrisTurnover: £22.6m (£21.5m)Pre-tax loss: £14.7m (-£10.1m)Staff costs: £31.9m (£21.8m)Wage-to-turnover ratio: 141 per centHighest paid director: £194,583 (£449,578)Net debt: Not stated; £3m bank loanBank: BarclaysAuditor: Smith CooperY/E: 30 June 2016 That is the fees spent by Derby published June 17. Blackburn RoversCompany name: Blackburn Rovers Football and AthleticOwned by: Venky's London Ltd, owned by Venkateshwara Hatcheries Private, an Indian company with interests in poultry, processed food, animal vaccines and pharmaceuticalsTurnover: £22m (£22.4m)Pre-tax loss: £1.5m (-£17.3m)Staff costs: £25.3m (£30.1m)Wage-to-turnover ratio: 115 per centHighest paid director: £150,304 (£177,969)Net debt: Not stated, loans of £87.3m (£87.1m) to parent and £14.2m (£12.9m) bank overdraftBank: State Bank of IndiaAuditor: PM+M Solutions for BusinessY/E: 30 June 2016 This is ours. Everything about Derby's books screams breaking FFP in comparison to ours but it's only us who uses the rules as a refusal to spend in case of "non-compliance." Wake up will you. To put it into perspective in 15/16 they spent approx 40m and gained nothing. Didn't sell a player for a fee. That's a substantial increase in wages, fees spent and not a single figure to balance it back. No action was taken.

Derby's transfer expenditure comes to approx £80m over the previous 4 years. From that they have gained approx. £37m back. This is taking fees only into account. I'm lead to believe the selling club doesn't receive any additional funds (save bonuses/clauses) from a sale. Likewise they don't pay any fees. As an example, when Derby received approx. £37m for their players that is the bottom line save for any future % fee. The benefit is the lump sump/release of wages. However, they have spent £80m on incomings. This sum is the fee to the selling club only. It doesn't take into account agent fees, signing on fees and, of course, the wage. By a very crude measurement you'd have to expect that Derby's transfer outgoings are 75% higher than their incomings taking into account the additional fees occurred. Likewise, you'd expect their wage bill has got significantly higher simply by assessing their incomings vs their outgoings. Their ST sales are irrelevant in comparison to their gargantuan spending over the previous half a decade.

You forget to deduct the cost of staffing, electricity, policing etc etc from your £7m a year have put forward as a full and final profit from ST sales. However convenient for you.

Hahahahahahahahahaha...... Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Liverpool supposedly offloading 10+ players. Could do a lot worse than players on loan like Woodburn. Sheff Utd interested in him surely we can rival that

Give me one Evans over 5 Lowe's any day of the week. He did. A pal of mine who supports Oldham said that he had games where he disappeared but more often than not you could count on him for a good performance. Like any young player you fade in and out, have bad spells. Not a bad player but obviously thought he was a bit better than he was at the time. It's funny how you turn a complete round turn on anything that doesn't go for your agenda. He hasn't just had "1 good game against us" and hasn't done badly under every manager since. I seem to remember you banging the drum of never judging a player before you've seen them - you openly admit it's not fair to judge him under Coyle so where has this damming opinion of him come from? How many times have you seen him in his 30+ apps for Oldham? 1 - against us? A good performance...

Jason Lowe definitely played right back for a lot of our relegation campaign, at least under Coyle. It was Mowbray who started using Nyambe there. The Oldham manager criticised him once if I remember and it was around the time his loan came to an end and they wanted to sign him. They did sign him. It wouldn't be unheard of for a manager to downplay a players qualities he wants to buy. If he was as critical of him as you make out he wouldn't have signed him on a 2 and a half year deal. As Tyrone made out too, if you was present at Oldham's ground that season, you'd have seen how he ran rings around our midfield then. He has the potential to be a decent Championship player and certainly possesses more midfield qualities than Akpan and Lowe combined. Anyway this is an irrelevant argument as he isn't our player or a transfer target How rich. You've spent the last 45 pages jumping down the neck of people who have vented their concerns (ergo opinions) and telling them how wrong they are.

Well, he has signed for Wigan and loaned to Oldham who subsequently bought him. Hardly flopping from club to club. Despite a bad start at Oldham he grew and got a couple of goals from midfield for them. Can imagine he'll end up getting a move somewhere else soon enough. He could pass, tackle and control the ball far better than Akpan. Lowe was right back during that campaign.

Jack Byrne was a better player than the midfielders we coped with that season. That is a fact.

Weirdo. I'd love for the Foden rumour to be true. You can see talk of Leeds being linked on the internet but no talk of Rovers except for BDS' mate. I wouldn't mind signing him just to beat Leeds to him. He's definitely a marquee signing. My only worry about it would be we have other areas we have to strengthen before and should spend money on that but it would be an incredibly hard offer to turn down to sign Foden regardless of the mentioned. And before BDS and Paul Mani's Crusaders come knocking I'm not complaining I just want a striker or two

There's a couple of plates spinning... We are currently still looking at our first choices.. No panic yet, we have our current CEO on a new long-term contract.. Our scouting network has improved, by the way We hope to get our new board in before our trip to Pune in September.. The market is crazy, executives currently want paying in line with other clubs in this league.. No panic.

If a player has a release fee and the club aren't willing to let them go for under that fee then how long can it possibly take? Armstrong is £3m. Maddison is £2.5m. Both managers and chairmen from each club have stated this several times. To me it doesn't seem plausible that we have been haggling for those deals for so long. That either suggests that we don't have the funds to buy them or they simply aren't targets. Either way, if Newcastle truly are holding out for £3m I certainly wouldn't be paying it. Armstrong is a good player, Maddison is better....and cheaper.

Yeah. It's a shame about Hoban as he looked like a really able defender. Decent with the ball, good in the tackle and in the air. Sadly there are some athlete's bodies that have been injured that much they become like an old elastic band - one small stretch and they snap. He's one of them. It's interesting to see who he lines up as centre half cover though. Mulgrew, Lenihan, Downing & Nyambe isn't enough if he continues with the 3 at the back he's been playing pre season. I think some people are severely underestimating how short we are in some positions. Injuries to Mulgrew & Lenihan like they've had in their past and suddenly our defence is non-existent. Likewise, injury to Conway, like in his past, and we will literally not have a single wide player with 1st team experience at the club. I predicted that we'd need 7 incomings as a minimum at the end of last season. I still stand by that. I think even the 5 banded about is still shy of what we need to put forward a properly competitive team. That said, survival is the aim of the game this season so we do only need to be better than 3 other teams.

That's a new one

I don't think it would be like that at all. I'd assume all those that had the thoughts, or heard the 'rumours', are more relieved than anything else.

Great moment. Wanted this from the moment Lenihan has signed his.