Of course I do but by 10 mins into the 2nd half the pace dies down considerably in comparison to professional football.

Big difference between playing at that level and having 16 year olds being lumped about by professional players in League 1 though.

Fuck me, I was at Boomtown festival this weekend and missed this Mulgrew leaving. Assumed Mowbray had dropped him. A very quick decline this past month or so. From being overly critical to the young lads, shocking tactics and an absolute nightmare of a transfer window. There's too much going on for it all to be wrong. Who knows what's going on behind closed doors at this joke of a club anymore. We may well want Mowbray out but what comes after that is frightening. A complete and utter balls up by all parties.

Mowbrays treatment of young players is beginning to grate. I wish he’d have said that about the back 4 that started vs Charlton and not Tyler Magloire, who by all accounts we either want to develop into a first team player or sell for a decent fee. Start telling the press how it is about Mulgrew and Lenihans performances and stop dropping the bombs on our younger lads.

He’ll be painted as the best winger since Giggs now we’ve “missed” out on him

What you are forgetting DE is that we haven't had a defence since Big Sam. The post by @Miller11 shown that the level of investment in our defence under Venkys has been appalling from every single manager, not just Mowbray. In my eyes this is part of a bigger problem. I genuinely don't believe that TM is setting out to go back on his word, I just don't think there's the scope to spend larger sums of money on players who defend. It goes against our transfer history since the dreaded takeover. Money is available for young, attacking players and the defence is put together as cheaply and quietly as it can be. It was our undoing during Bowyers years and our undoing during the relegation season too. Our defence has been shit since the Samba days.

This post also goes a long, long way to settling some of the downright baseless and undeserved remarks about Mowbray the past couple of days. Our inability to solve our defensive issues has been about since THEY came, not since Mowbray came, and I genuinely believed the man when he said defenders are coming. There is clearly no appetite for signing defenders with our owners.

I don't think people need much help in that respect.........

Probably just to cover losses and keep us compliant with any regulations in place.

Definitely only put that formation to prove a point at how little he likes TM ? The only doubts in my mind would be Rothwell and Nyambe for Bennett and Armstrong. I suspect walton nyambe lenihan mulgrew bell travis johnson Dack Armstrong Graham Gallagher

I thought that was a given 47er. If tomorrow is dry it's because it's not raining. If tomorrow is Saturday today must be Friday.

100% agree with this. Mowbray has been overseeing quite a change in the way we operate, and there are signs we are actually becoming a properly run club once more. A genuine criticism of him is that he gets his tactics wrong quite a bit - it's a fact based criticism based on the last two seasons (PNE and Wigan games spring to mind). It's just disheartening to see so much unfair criticism levelled at the man, from his apparent poor man management to the downright insulting "he doesn't know shit". I can't say I have been happier as a Rovers fan in near enough 9 years. I hold my hands up and say during our year in League one I wanted the man sacked, felt like he wasn't the one to take us up. I was wrong and one thing I wasn't taking into account is the task he's had in turning this club around to a functioning club as opposed to ticking over and doing the bare minimum to get us through anothr season.

1) The latter two left because they were................................................on loan. 2) Yes they did get dropped..................................................because they didn't play. 3) Is not upsetting players a sign of......................good man management? Especially as he DID drop players and they are still here, without kicking up a fuss. 4) That's simply not true and has no basis. If Mulgrew plays tomorrow it is because Mulgrew is fit enough to play. It has no bearing whatsoever on the man-management approach. Unsure whether you are being disingenuous or your desire to be edgy makes you say pretty silly things.

Nobody has let Nuttall down. I for one championed his inclusion in the squad but simply put when he had appearances he didn't put the kind of shift in you'd expect from a striker in this league. Too lightweight, not the greatest touch in the world and would never hammer defences down or run the channels. The three lads we have in front of him are all better and one could argue Samuel is better too. Whether Nuttall will do well at Blackpool is anyones guess. I think he will. He gets in the right places and has an eye for goal. That level may suit him more. It's crazy how players that sign for us are instantly confined to the poor player category, where their bad attributes are highlighted, and suddenly when a player goes he becomes the best player we've seen in that position and sorely let down by the club. There isn't one. One bit of positive feedback Mowbray used to get on here is that he looks like he has the squad playing for him, which they are, and that the dressing room atmosphere has taken a massive up turn since he came. It has. There's not been a hint of bad management on behalf of Mowbray, it's just that on here some wild assumption like that has legs all in the name of "opinion", whether or not it is fact-based is irrelevant.

Yep. Being jealous of Wigan's transfers. It's nonsense. In fact, I remember the exact same being said last season when they signed that Wolschild guy or whatever his name is at the back. "Wigan are buying better players than us"......meanwhile, they spent the season fighting relegation and we sat comfortable for the entire time. Wigan have lost Powell, Grigg and Macnanaman in a short space of time and suddenly people are saying they have done better business? Who have they signed, Antonee Robinson, Marshall? Bear in mind Robinson is replacing Reece James, probably one of the better players in the league last year. None of their signings are exactly renowned players. The only lad I'd entertain having from them is Macleod from Brentford but there's a reason they released him - he's full of injuries. It's just b/s. I'm all for opinions but I'm struggling to understand how Wigan's recruitment is thought to be more considered and professional as ours. All they have done is replace the players they have lost with arguably worse players.

Because he had to due to fitness issues. Whereas now he doesn't need to play because Mulgrew is fit. Paul Downing sank into a defence with Elliot Ward and I remember most on here dreading the thought of it. It worked out ok but don't pretend like it didn't worry us at the time, and that was a poorer opposition (although only just, Charlton aren't any great shakes).

Swear Mulgrew was injured and then put back into the team the following game when he wasn't..... He stayed in the bench for a few games before unseating Elliot Ward around the Gillingham game if I remember correctly? Don't let that get in the way of your argument though.

Nah, not this time, you don't get away with that. It's the go to argument of those that incessantly place a negative slant on anything the club does in the name of "debate". I have no issue with you putting up your opinion but if it flies in the face of what professionals are saying, and has no basis except some bloke on twitter, then expect it to be treated with the same derision.

Crazy how football is a game of opinions, some you value, some you don't. For example, I value the opinion of Pep Guardiola (multiple champions league winner, best ever PL finish x 2 years in a row, won everything as a player and a coach and universally respected by players, fans and managers alike) way more than I value the opinion of "MDavis1414" (Has a picture of him holding a pimms and lemonade in a holiday resort pool, and likes the Miami Dolphins). See what I'm getting at? Yeah, winning the 5th most aerial duels in the league isn't that imposing at the air - you're right. Yeah, being either footed is ungainly and clumsy - you're right. Fuck the stats, opinions of professionals, roversfan99 as it nailed down because of two appearances he's seen on Sky, and that's the reason this signing isn't impressive and why a 6 foot 5 lad who has secured a professional contract at the best team in the country is otherwise known as "Bambi on ice".

Doubt it and wouldn't be bothered either. 3 days to fit in to a back line isn't a lot of time. As Mulgew is our club captain he should be more than able to play against a newly promoted Charlton side and hold his own.

Yeah roversfan99, you're right. Let's listen to you and Tommy the tit from The Black Countraaayyy over Pep. "Bambi on ice" is going to be the new catchphrase on here. How you can call a guy that is supposedly both footed as bambi on ice is beyond me. He's won his fair share of headers too. I dunno man, what have you seen that we haven't? Like what actually happened for you to refer to him as "Bambi on ice" (?) in the games you saw him play? Or is it just because some guy on a baggies forum said it and now suddenly it's stuck because God forbid there's a signing this summer that actually impresses....

Johnson will make the world of difference in terms of game management. We lost a lot of games last season because we went onto the back foot and tried to defend our lead. When you add a player who can dictate games in the way Johnson has done over the years suddenly game management improves. I have no doubt that Tosin is a great player judging by the comments from Pep. I saw him on Sky last season for West Brom and he looked a player then - only when I googled him and saw he played for City it clicked why he looked a step ahead of them. At the end of the day I'd take a baggies fans opinion with a pinch of salt - he's rated by arguably the greatest coach in the world as someone who will play for the first team of the best in England right now. If some weirdo from the black country reckons he's like Bambi on ice then whatever, he'll do for me.

Palmer was - is still - a very good player. It's just that Dack is better and he couldn't play out wide. Simple as that really.

Give it a rest ?

I thought Chapman was fit?