2 hours ago, briansol said:

One of the reason the U23 finish high is that The top PL clubs are loaning their best players, so their U23 is watered Out a bit. Players like Mason Mount, Harry Wilson etc. 

However shouldn't takeaway that we have a great U23 with Just as good talent as the PL

I completely agree but they are clubs making money from the loan system while buying the finished article for their first team. We on the other hand invest in the academy to produce players for our team. 

I feel we are not in a position to see players like Buckley, butterworth and Costello trundle around league one to satisfy a development formula.

In the end posters on here have suggested they have the apptitude to be championship players. Only exposure to championship football will show if they have the attitude ( Travis as an example). Some will pass the test and some will fail but for me this is about Blackburn rovers football club not about nurturing.

These are young men and football is there chosen profession. They need to be on the pitch for us and I can bet you that if they where asked they would agree.

To succeed in any field requires risk. Wolves money, sheff Utd style of play. We have neither of them but we have youth and that is our risk.

I feel this season we are at a crossroads. We can purse a policy of safety first or we can give youth a chance. I’m not sure which way we will go. One certainly condemns is to mid table mediocrity the other gives us a chance of greater things

Over to you Tony

Before I go back in to work. For tony get em in the team and get em played. If there good enough they’ll step up if not then loan them out. If Palmer Todd Kane and numerous other big club kids are good enough then so are ours. We are a top drawer academy with a second rate first team. Pretend we’re loaning them if that helps

Not relevant to our transfer but looks like Middlesbrough are signing our old boy Todd Kane and are happy about it

Just now, SkipDonoghue said:

To be honest I'm not sure, loan moves must benifit both club and player, if I was pushed I can see the the lads who've come through the academy all staying put and training with the 1st team, and getting game time as and when(I think Wharton, Platt, Nuttall, Lyons etc are most likely to go out on loan)

 if I was pushed with regards to loans with the 5 academy lads I would opt for Tyler, Joe Grayson and JRC, maybe, I don't think Buckley and Butterworth are ready for loans yet as any loan would be L1 or L2 at least and the physicality may not yet benefit them all this is just my opinion of course

I don’t have the experience or in depth knowledge of someone who like yourself attends youth football regularly and clearly understands it. This is more a question than an opinion. 

The promotion of Johnson to the first team set up appears to suggest a recognition on the part of Mowbray on what he may have inherited. I wonder if Johnson is the bridge to bring a large group of these lads into the first team set up and more importantly use them. Johnson is not only their manager but to an extent their mentor and his presence and availability gives stability and from that confidence.

If that is the case it’s a smart bit of man management from Mowbray and will allow him to get the best from young lads via Johnson someone who knows them not only as footballers but has people.

I was lip reading him as well and he said: I fear change

Just now, Tormund said:

Would have thought so.

But remember there is always flex

Just now, Proudtobeblue&white said:

Would you change your mind if he brought 70k into your household per week!

Obviously 

Just now, K-Hod said:

£70k a week, Forster is on apparently.

We are basically relying on Southampton being both a football club and a charity, if that’s coming off....

Those are the odds waggot loves. Game on

57 minutes ago, blackburnravers.com said:

 

I would love Fraser foster and I mean that in a none homoerotic way

42 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Is it info, or just guesswork?

Does it matter it’s better to have something transfer related to discuss than nothing or going round in circles discussing the pros and cons of Mowbray.

All information by virtue of the requirements of interpretation has a speculative element. Also information is not static and changes due to the large range of variables that impact upon it. 

The end result is that when he/ she says this may happen it is only reasonable and sensible for him/ her  to add the caveat unless other factors change. 

The demand that only concrete facts are submitted with supporting evidence and names would lead to a situation where it would be impossible to inform anyone of a potential signing until it was completed and by that point we would know anyway.

i think for the enjoyment we all get from speculation unsupported information should be allowed.

And on that note Ive heard we have a bid in for messi on a flexi

Just now, AAK said:

Wow didnt know theyd signed them. Always knew fulham would be strong. Theyll be better than us simple as, so write off second game of season. Lets just make sure we beat charlton, its imperative we do.

Yeah I always think that when teams get relegated but it rarely seems to work out the way it should do on paper. Our division is littered with prime examples of failed transfer strategy. Fulham where useless in the premiership and while I accept that the championship is a completely different animal there appears something about relegation from the premiership that drains confidence or conversely breeds over confidence. Whatever the reason relegated teams struggle to achieve immediate bounce back.

Sorry for the of topic ramble

23 hours ago, Madon said:

That's a gobful!

Maybe mowbray just wants big name players. Big long names ability may be secondary to how big a name they’ve got. Hart Carson Cahill Hanley to short. Maybe we’re coming at our new transfer strategy from the wrong direction size may be important. 

Guy above big long name and 8 foot 3 by all accounts 

16 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

We tracked some of them. (Alledgedly)

We tracked all of them. (Alledgedly)

51 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Never bet against your own team! 

Bit harsh, I admit I’m also concerned we don’t have a first choice ‘keeper of new defenders, but there is time...

Though I will feel much better if these issues are addressed before we kick off against Charlton...

From my experience I wouldn’t bet on them either

However I’d still sign him if the chance is there

Just now, geedog13 said:

No not in public but shows the mentality 

It really does disappointing and slightly immature but I suppose he’s only 24 and has a lot to learn.

Just now, geedog13 said:

And while I'm at it ...... reed was a good footballer but in his words 3 months before the end of the season " not even any point now not much to play for is there " 

He said that in public. He really does have a lot to learn then

Just now, Tormund said:

His missus didn’t like it up there. 

Tough she'll have to get over it. My missus doesn’t like anywhere if I was a footballer and listened to her I’d only be able to play if the game was in my back garden

4 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

Or Harrison Reed

That would be a top signing. Mowbray always seems to run down the players he wants to sign. Chapman and Armstrong got both barrels from him then he signed them. I wonder if Reed is another of the cant play but we’ll sign them brigade

Just now, neophox said:

Burnleys Centre half Ben Gibson may be available. Was under Mowbray at Boro.

Did Burnley not pay boro £15 million for gibson

Just now, Angry_Pirate said:

Failsworth.

Thanks

3 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said:

In my humble untrained opinion he is and I’m sure others would back me up.

technically brilliant,  creates space, never seems to be marked or in a rush just picks the ball up in acres of space and can hit passes, dribble. He has a good engine, very mobile and likes to get stuck in and out a foot in. I’ve seen him play centre mid (his best position imo) RB, RW And he was the best on the field including the opposition anywhere he played.

What he lacks in physical strength he makes up for with tenacity and work rate. He is a yard quicker in his head than those around him. Really good football brain and technical ability.

i honestly think he’s class. Still can improve, I think he needs to shoot more From distance and make more runs into the box ala lampard but everything he lacks can Ben taught . The qualities he has some will never learn. Very naturally gifted

Is Buckley fro Blackburn 

16 minutes ago, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said:

If we end up with Johnson, Adam, Downing, Butterfield, Dann, Gallagher and Ruddy. 

If we let go of Raya, Rodwell, Smallwood, Evans and Mulgrew. 

Would people call that a good transfer window? 

Yes if we are promoted

1 hour ago, JonSnow said:

22 in October, started about 20 games at this level, one goal scored, no assists. 

But I get your point. In this silly age of transfer fees you'd want to be pushing eight figures for him. I doubt we'd get more than £5m.

He changes the speed of play. Head up straight away. Moves the ball foward. I have no idea of general market value but he is our best midfielder by far: