Coventry won 2-0 against Barnsley, but Barnsley had 61% possession. The result all but relegates Wycombe as they can only now finish in 21st. Derby's last 4 games are against Preston, Birmingham, Swansea and Sheff Wed; Wycombe's against Bristol City, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Middlesborough. Wycombe look doomed.

23 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Proactive, ambitious, engaged club in touch with reality and the fanbase and responding to a failed season and dire results = get shut of Mowbray and his staff, promptly appoint a new manager with some sort of clout or standing in the game that at least might surprise us and do well next season. Price season tickets at £250 in all areas except upper JW and give people something to believe in. For those 2500 or so who bought this season they should get next season for £100 as a thank you.

Clueless Rovers = keep Mowbray and co. in the bizarre belief that he will change or things will come good or that he is actually the best/only man for the job. Wait until June or July to start selling season tickets and then do so at £400+ in all areas along with some ridiculous strapline, then act confused/amazed when people don't buy. 

Based on past actions, I'm going with Clueless Rovers

2 hours ago, Stuart said:

We aren’t fully out of the woods yet but it is definitely in our own hands. Draws against our relegation rivals basically kills off their hopes. What works in our favour is the don’t have to catch us, just their nearest rival.

As it is, if we were to lose every one of our final four matches (unlikely)

 

Why is unlikely for us to lose our last 4 games? All the teams below us down to and including Rotherham can surpass our 50 point total, mathematically speaking. The question is how likely it is. For Forest, Preston, Birmingham and Huddersfield it is very likely. Coventry need 6 points, Derby 8 and Rotherham 12. At the wrong end of the table the more points needed, the less likely. Rotherham lost a game today I thought they'd win. From our point of view that Luton and Middlesborough have nothing to play for hurts us. I'd already put Luton down as a game I think Rotherham will win. I'm not bothered about which teams go down.

On the other hand, two wins secures our Championship status. If we win on Tuesday and Derby lose, we'll be safe. If I thought relegation would see the back of Team Mowbray, I'd be all for it, but I don't see which division we're in as determining their fate. I want us to secure safety on Tuesday with the help of our 'friends' in Preston.

There's no money paid out based on the position the team finishes in, so it doesn't matter if we finish 7th or 21st. From a season Mowbray told us playoffs were the minimum acceptable outcome to securing our survival is a massive let down. 

15 hours ago, bboy said:

I want us to win every game and nothing will ever change that so I'm all for another 12 points. However i hope the small chance of a good end of season doesn't stop the need for a change of management. It would worry me all like the day Steve Kean managed to steal a few decent final results and keep us up against Wolves and he was given a clean slate prior to the season of doom.

 

That is I think a worry for a lot of us on here that a few wins will keep Mowbray here over the summer and into next season.

We aren't in any danger, now, of sitting in 22nd come Wednesday 10pm. The win means we can't be overtaken by Wycombe or, unless there's a dramatic turnaround in goal difference, by Sheffield Wednesday. I don't see Rotherham winning 4 of their last 7. Derby can finish on 55 points, so the mathematically certainty of safety rests on 56 points or a couple more victories.

Victory for us at Wednesday on Tuesday coupled with a defeat for Derby at Preston would assure of safety and championship football again next season.

We could finish on 62 points in 8th - highly unlikely of course, but it seems absurd that such a high finish is still mathematically possible this late in the season. We still have to play teams currently in 19, 20, 22 and 23, in what must be the easiest run in, on paper, for any team.

I'm not counting my chickens, just yet. (apologies for the very poor pun)

4 mins added time

3 substitutions straight out of the 'wtf' Mowbray drawer

Derby are winning in the possession stats ... 48:52

Assist by Douglas. Cross by a player not allowed to cross to a player not allowed to be in the box let alone score. Only partly tongue in cheek.

What can turn this around? Mowbray and co fired as half time begins. Oh that would require one of our owners present.

2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Cant imagine Rotherham are going to win 3 out of there last 6 and we'll lose all 6.

Rotherham play us, Birmingham, Luton, Middlesborough, Barnsley, Brentford and Cardiff. I've grouped the 3 games I think Rotherham will win at the beginning of the list.

It comes to something very bad when we're relying on other teams to beat the current bottom 3 so they can't overtake us on our current points tally.

Wycombe 5 games 48 points max - defeat by Swansea at the weekend means they can't overtake us.

Sheff Wed 5 games 50 points max - defeat this weekend would mean they could finish level on 47 points with us, but we have a +25 GD with them currently

Rotherham 7 games 60 points max - say Cardiff did you realise you could be mathematically relegated? I expect them to win away at Reading tonight to remove that possibility. Rotherham will overhaul us if they win 2 of their other 6 games and beat us.

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

What overheads could VLL have that isn't relevant to Rovers accounts ?

Supposedly it's just a shell company to own and fund Rovers via the VH group/Venkys

It could be the cost of the regular audits of Blackburn Rovers, plus the cost to prepare VLL accounts.

16 hours ago, JoeH said:

No. & we shouldn't.

Why is that? If it were me and Crewe wanted the loan back, I'd want a right to cancel. I'm assuming you tracked his strengths and weaknesses before we signed him, How he's being doing since?

That was a result that went our way. Rotherham still have 2 games in hand on us and we have to play them, so we aren't technically out of the woods, yet. An unexpected win against Derby would certainly help, not that we do things the easy way.

14 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Either my memory is going or that is utter bollocks.

I have had a look at the tables from 2015/16 and have to confess 'yep bollocks', I'm looking at Lambert's time in charge with rose-tinted glasses. Those are now chucked.

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Usually agree with you but Lambert's useless. Like Mowbray will be doing in summer he left the contract situation in an appalling state. Not one striker under contract when he left.

And, with hindsight we now know he never had any intention of staying long term but was merely using us as a leg up back into the job market.

 

Yes, he was only here to rebuild his reputation. That didn't work out for him. The flip side is whether he'd have changed his mind had he got what he wanted. Of course that didn't happen and I certainly wouldn't want him back, which I think Chaddy was suggesting.

Can we cancel the Pickering signing? A 6-0 drubbing in League 1 does not inspire any confidence.

5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He keeps assuring us that that's what's going to happen but he's cutting it a bit bloody fine Tom.

So did Coyle ...

Mowbray out. He should have been potted long ago. 

2 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Two fingered salute to Kieran Maguire.

The war has only just started imo.

"The war’s over lads, the sage of football finance, Kieran Maguire, has stated on the Price of Football podcast that the ‘owners have completely won the fans around’."

Presumably, this is in a parallel universe where Venkys changed nothing and we're about to win our fifth straight Premier League title and going for a hattrick of successive Champions League titles. 

Lambert was a good appointment as were those appointed around him. Had us on the cusp of the playoffs before off-field infighting sabotaged the season. He had the team playing in the formation he wanted, 352, winning the two last games using it. He'd worked out what he needed and had costed it out. He didn't get it and walked. He had a chip on his shoulder when he joined us and now it's the size of a metaphorical mountain. He wouldn't be a good choice even to the end of the season. He's no reason not to want to see us relegated.

Mowbray doesn't watch what goes on, on the pitch, either.

Ah performance, the straw that is clutched by managers who can't win.

Those seeking to show how much better we are doing than our league position can't use their previous favourite, the form table. We're bottom of that. Expected goals is the 'new' fake news. Our goal tally is skewed by the 29 (half) scored in, was it the first 11 games? The leading goalscorers tag was ours. Much Mowbray made of it. Then he dropped Dolan.

One of the not so impressive stats is the number of times 2 shots on target is recorded in games - at least that's my gut feeling from all the BBC stats. The 20 shots and 5 on target against Cardiff is an outlier. Seemed like Armstrong had half of them - no I didn't count his efforts - and in half of them a teammate was in a better position. Armstrong passing to said teammates would go a long way to improving their scoring return. Of course, Mowbray's put all the onus on scoring goals on Armstrong or had until his recent walkback. 

Mowbray is consistent on flip-flops and it is the constant changing that makes him so poor a manager. His verbal gaffes don't suggest he knows what he is doing. The results speak for themselves.

@chaddyrovers Absolutely. It does depend on who do the review.

Rumour is that once the furlough ends 50% of those employed in the admin side, including coaches would be made redundant. Presumably staffing levels would be part of the review.

Teams under a transfer embargo were limited to new contracts not exceeding £520,000 a year including any payments to agents to a squad up to 25 players. Since the players union wants the squad limit removed, it doesn't sound like that has changed.

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

So cos they going down they down count then? 

Did you want to keep of the majority of these out of contract players who have proved they arent they good enough for what we need. I would deffo keep JRC, probably Nyambe and maybe Rothwell but depends on his role within the team under a new manager. Rest can go..not good enough for what we need

A lot depends on this apparent review of all things Blackburn Rovers that Venkys are said to be doing after the season ends. Assuming that goes ahead, contracts will be done based on the budget and FFP restrictions.

It doesn't take a freak set of results to get us involved in a relegation battle. Those who think it does are still suffering from complacency and after Hull last year that ought not be the case.

Mowbray out. I haven't gone soft on that. Unfortunately, Venkys won't shift from review in the summer, unless results force their hand. If Venkys are now looking to sell the club that's good news, depending to whom they sell Blackburn Rovers. If it's true we 'owe' £200m to Venkys, £40m to our trade creditors and £20m to the SBOI, the sum they'll likely want won't be met. Even were Seneca and there £60m 'bid' still around and Venkys wrote off their 'debt' there would be no new money available after paying off the other creditors. It's a financial black hole.

@roversfan99 We're grasping at straws, because 'we' want action taken now.