52 minutes ago, HowieFive0 said:

I dont think its a case of being painted as a bad manager although his record aint great albeit in the PL its possibly the fact he s not managed in the Championship which is a totally different kettle of fish  with limited funds .Walking away from Fulham whilst still in the PL for better things probably says more about Hughes than his actual managerial record.

I haven't checked Hughes' record as manager, but I suspect you're gaslighting him. Hughes acknowledged that he shouldn't have walked away from Fulham. I think he'll still see himself as an ambitious manager.

Take a gander at the top five teams in our division. None of their managers had managed in English league football before taking up their appointments.

Wolves brought in a manager from Portugal, got promoted and have been there ever since. Leeds went and sourced Bielsa, a top manager whom nobody would have thought would be interested in our Championship. 

Your view of the Championship is outdated. Mark Hughes wants a club whose owners' ambition matches his own. Do you think our owners ambition matches his?

6 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Think they did it twice in consecutive seasons ..

You are correct. looking at the history of games Coventry beat us 1-0 in a replay in 2009. We've played 38 times; Coventry lead the series 17:15.

11 minutes ago, Mike E said:

I seem to remember Coventry battering us in an FA Cup game under Hughes, have I made that up?

You are correct. 3rd round FA Cup 2008: 4-1 drubbing at home. I feel a similar scoreline is coming tomorrow (that's a guarantee it won't! Mercer should back the scoreline, just to be on the safeside.)

38 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Owen Coyle had a point to prove, not sure that is relevant.

Not sure what point that was. He never looked like he was trying to prove a point. Always said we weren't in a relegation battle, even though we were.

Mowbray's gone from suits to tracksuit on the sidelines. Should have kept the same tracksuit top with the initials OC on them. We're as Off Course now, as much as we always were under the 'outstanding candidate'.

Even the blemishes on Hughes' CV can't hide the fact that he kept both QPR and Southampton up. Whether he'd have done so again, we'll never know.

He's had the time to recharge his batteries. That has to be positive. We aren't going to get a manager with no blemishes on his CV. Venkys haven't recruited a manager who was currently a manager at another club. I don't see that changing this time.

@joey_big_noseThat's the sense I get, too. That Hughes has something to prove. I was surprised Hughes took the QPR job. I reckoned that QPR side had more ego than talent.

So, yes, I can see Hughes 'stepping down' to the Championship - we were the team he did it for as a player - and sticking at it. 

4 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

With Warnock and McCarthy though they are committed to being promotion focussed Championship managers.

I think Hughes thinks he is better than that level. I just don't think he would be that motivated.

McCarthy was focussed on keeping Ipswich in the Championship. Cardiff represents an opportunity to show what he can do.

I don't know where this idea comes from that Hughes thinks he's above this level or wouldn't be motivated comes from. When we appointed Hughes, he was manager of Wales. He'd never managed in the Premier League. I don't doubt that he'd be motivated to get us promoted back to the Premier League.

39 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I'm not sure about Mark Hughes, he was great first time around but I think maybe his day has gone.

I think that's what people said about Mick McCarthy and Warnock. It's said about Pearson, too, to a lesser extent. Bristol City couldn't win and Pearson wins in his first match in charge. That's the turnaround we need. Whatever the result of tonight's game, we'll be 16th come 10pm. We could find ourselves level on points with Huddersfield and only 2 points ahead of Coventry.

I think Venkys can leave the CEO position vacant until the summer. There's Cheston who could take on the responsibilities of the job and it's not like it carries any real weight, anyway.

3 minutes ago, tomphil said:

It was the following season Souey got us promoted, maybe though he wouldn't have done had he not had those 15 in the previous to have a good look.

A few of those losses especially the cave in to Man City at home showed him he needed men/leaders not nice boys.

Thanks for the correction. Mowbray's mentioned the need for ''men, not boys", so I'm wondering how we ended up with two inexperienced young'uns in the centre of our defence.

Just now, Butty said:

I’ve just been on Twitter and can’t see anything linking us with Sparky not even a rumour. Sorry to burst the bubble. 

Sorry that you went on a wild goose chase.

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

What rumours are these? 

That Hughes is interested in coming back and that Venkys are negotiating with him. As I have said, I hope that's true. I've not read the tweet that another poster mentioned on here. 

1 minute ago, Swanson said:

Is there a rumour about Hughes?

Allegedly on twitter. I've not read it.

@BlueBloodThe 5 we've just lost were all winnable. You made the point that the teams below us are all scrapping for points and that we've no fight in us. That equals relegation.

The facebook crowd prove you can fool some of the people all of the time. Nobody posting on here during the game said that we 'played really well'.

@chaddyroversargues that a new appointment is needed now and I agree. I saw a poster say we appointed Souness with 15 games to go in a season and he got us promoted. It can happen, again. I hope the rumours of negotiations with Hughes are true and near fruition. I think Venkys need to focus on one target and build a management team around him and I hope that's what they are doing.

Relying on Venkys to do the right thing is a very unusual place to be. I believe Venkys will act in a timely fashion, this time. I have faith.

15 minutes ago, HowieFive0 said:

Maybe i should use your telepathetic powers after you foretold this gem ..

"When an entire team's not at the races, you know something is up. Something perhaps along the lines of your manager telling you just before you go out on the pitch that today is his last game in charge." ...after the managers told them to lose to leave for Rovers ..ah of course ..

Knock it on the head now Dick ..its becoming boring ..sigh. And not once  have i told you what you should or shouldn't  think ..just simply quoted you. Sorry.

I never wrote that. I never suggested that Cooper told his players to go out and lose. Obviously, it wasn't Cooper's last game in charge, so that wasn't the reason for their collective funk.

You've told me what I should know, which is synonymous with thinking.

To return to the topic of this thread, I asked you when you think Mowbray and co will go after tonight's defeat?

1 minute ago, HowieFive0 said:

Sigh ..yes Dick. End of. Its clear what you was implying ..move on.

You've been very free telling me what I should or shouldn't think. Perhaps you'd care to tell me what it was that  I was implying. Better yet, use your telepathic powers to tell us all when Mowbray and co are going to darken our club no more with their presence.

2 minutes ago, HowieFive0 said:

"Something very odd happened at Huddersfield today. Swansea conceded 4. Previously conceded 15 in the season. Could HSH be ordering Cooper to get himself fired to line him up to be sent here?"

Your Quote ..lets leave it at there shall we. 

I posed a question. I did not make a statement. The answer to the question I posed is that Cooper isn't getting himself fired for anyone or on anybody's orders. He's clearly not resigning, either. Whether HSH want him to come here is entirely another matter.

1 minute ago, HowieFive0 said:

Ah yes you re right ..it was Swansea s manager Cooper getting himself fired at Huddersfield so he could come here ..even more bonkers !!😂

Cooper fuming tonight after his side won ..

I didn't say Cooper was getting himself fired, either.. I imagine he was fuming getting beaten 4-1 after conceding only 15 in all the matches before. Swansea won again tonight and didn't concede. Normal service resumed as far as he's concerned, I would imagine..

2 minutes ago, HowieFive0 said:

Erm yeah actually i do ..and ive seen enough to want him gone .

If you re correct in that assumption Dick ..i suggest you get a bet on !

You already told the board you thought the players had colluded to chuck Saturdays game ..

I am relieved you want Mowbray gone. I never suggested Rovers players deliberately set out to lose against Forest

If Mowbray doesn't walk, he and his mates have to be fired. I don't see us winning another game under Mowbray and co. Without fans around the ground, it's not possible to determine just how toxid things really are.

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It's not about expecting wins, it's about expecting performances.

Only for Mowbray.

2 minutes ago, HowieFive0 said:

Not even close with Keane ..

I don't see us winning another game under Mowbray. Howe about you?

Just now, HowieFive0 said:

No it doesn't ..and you know it doesn't ..or at least should.

Of course it does. Mowbray has now equalled our worst run since Venkys took over. You should know that invites comparisons.

3 minutes ago, Cocker said:

Please don't compare Mowbray to the likes of Steve Kean, it's not big and it's not clever no matter how upset you are with him.

The last time we lost 5 on the trot was under Steve K--n. Seems perfectly legitimate to compare the two.

Just now, neophox said:

Why send Magloire to Scotland ?

Couldn't send him to Coventry.

Davenport has a groin injuiry?. Sure it wasn't a groan injury on seeing the team sheet?