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No i'm clearly saying that Brittain was poor defensively till last season when he seemed to have found a more aggressive robust edge. Nyambe was decent enough in terms of defence in fact he was a beast at times just totally useless crossing the halfway line. Why hes fallen away who knows but his image of himself obviously didn't quite tally with his actual ability. He's not the first not to kick on the way he should have and won't be the last. I see your mental gymnastics and history adjusting are still up to their usual summer standards though, i'm neither surprised nor lost for words.

But it cost a million quid to replace the homegrown Nyambe who up until last season was a still better defender than Brittain but useless going forwards. Is there a million quid available to replace Dolan on the same wages ?

The frustration though is born out of knowing how good he can be on other days. Personally i found watching the likes of Corey Evans stealing a wage here much more frustrating than a developing player on peanuts putting the graft in.

It's tasty on here tonight there's about 3 separate rows going on at the same time, i'm feeling left out 🤣

He wouldn't be the first.

Baker was a solid steady Eddie a bit like Forshaw but better imo however this is how it's set to go as wages get cut and cut cheaper doesn't mean better. There's a lot riding on this Portugeezer lad being a player because he'll have some big boots to fill in the near future.

Well all the indications are he did. This has all the hallmarks and exactly the same pattern as with Lenihen and Nyambe and it's clear when our home raised players have become established first teamers the people running the show do not want to pay them a salary reflecting that. Similar with Brereton, they papped on about the 'flex' big fee low wages because it was an investment sigining. Then they failed to renegotiate along the way to try and protect that investment so in the end he walks for nothing when he would certainly have commanded some sort of fee. This is the central reason this keeps happening i think it's rather obvious.

This is what iv'e been saying all along so i'm glad someone else has mentioned it, true or not. Some have really odd takes on the wages this club is now paying they seem to assume everyone is on 10-20k a week and if someone rejects a contract offer or doesn't get one it's because they are a greedy so and so. They really haven't been paying attention to what has been going on over the last 3 years that has led us to this point. Even if he's on 5-7k a week Dolan has every right to ask for double that and i think he should be on a reasonable Championship salary it would be an investment. There is no way on earth at this club he went from £300 or so a week to 7-10k but it's ok football manager style estimates say he did 🤪 So if he was indeed offered a double his money deal 18 months ago and he said no then now we know why.

Previous to the court case they sent money when it was needed or when they felt like it but now they have to ask first and follow a set of rules laid out by the court, if they don't then they can't. Therefore there is an impediment.

They are both pretty much run of the mill championship footballers who people obviously don't see much future potential in nor how they could go straight into their team and do a job. So there is no one prepared to pay a fee for them because their types aren't in demand they exceed supply at this level. If they became free or could be snapped up for a few hundred grand and would fit into the interested clubs pay bracket i think there'd be a taker, for Buckley at least.

This will just be money or part of it that was requested months ago for running costs, most likely to pay down the overdraft on whats already been spent. That's all they are allowed to send otherwise there wouldn't be a court case or restrictions.

If he was made CEO in title then he's fully accountable to everyone and he doesn't want that so he'll continue to provide himself with a shied from scrutiny.

It's like that anyway and i suppose Dolan was looking at people like Cantwell and saying i contribute more than him. It's more likely the recruitment dept have just been told to look at players on £10k pwk or less salary range.

There's no way a player like Dolan on a modest current wage is going to say no to a pay rise even of a few grand in favour of staying on the same money for another 18 months so he walks for free. Non of that makes sense unless the loyalty bonus is massive or there is a pre agreement with another club and big pay hike/signing on fee. These are young championship players not multi millionaire Prem academy lads Dolan himself said he was previously in the first team on £300 ish a week. At the very least you'd sign your contract offer under the stipulation of a get out clause or bid trigger so i think it's obvious he was offered no real pay rise worth its salt.

Not if its only just been introduced in terms of new sigings. In other words regardless of wages now being paid you can't bring in any new ones on over 10k a week. Not a dig at you but i'm amazed this seems to be so difficult to comprehend although obviously it's only a rumour previous experience tells us how things can change here overnight. Then change back again !

To be fair Rovers neglected the overseas and European market for a few years so we've probably missed out quite a few bargains. No issue with scouring the markets and wages have mostly been a bit cheaper i'd say you'll get better talents in that bargain bin for a lot less wages than in the busted flush championship journeymen bin, we've been in that as well in the past. Trouble is matching the talent with the physicality and expectation in England which obviously the journeymen have that so you need a few of them as well. Whatever happened to the European/overseas scouting network TM spent money setting up and recruiting for ? As far as i remember thy turned up Kaminski and that was it before there was another project change.

Some other young players 😀

Both Waggot and Mowbray mentioned the Barnsley model a few years ago when ironically at the time they'd challenged the play offs under Ismael. They had the all in one first team and academy complex i think on one site and were quite advanced with their tech and coaching at the time. Focusing on academy products and scouring the lower leagues with the aim of most of their first team being made up of produced players rather than bought ones. No idea what's going on there now but their model has only been successful in creating a low budget, low expense top 10 league 1 club.

Shaw, Agnew, Shebby, Senior then choas without even a CEO until Waggot so why is this one going to be any different ? 'Cue the "Give the guy a chance ffs" brigade. When the writing on the tin says what's inside it that's what comes spilling out of it when it's opened. The most worrying post Waggot thing is the real CEO now has free reign without challenge this end. That is truly petrifying.

The guy at Sunderland employed Grayson and allowed him to sign Steele from us AND pay money. I don't care where Steele is now he was rubbish at the time and poor for them as well in league 1. This fella as their CEO presided over possibly the worst era in their modern history but once he'd gone they started climbing back. He'll fit the mould well here as they continue managed decline under the Barnsley model gearing us for league 1.

But they don't really want a CEO do they that role is already filled just not in name. They want a Chief Administrator really who is only in charge of certain non football things, more like another 'Head of Heads'. So it's probably irrelevant who they appoint now.

Cheapest.

Hypothetically speaking just imagine if someone - in return for running the ship from the shadows or an initial stake or even a contract that is impossible to break without a massive payout - was entitled to just 5 or 10% of every buy or sale deal. That might not sound much but over 15 years it's a very handsome return and the kind of investment or involvement a very crafty clever snake would include in their deal with clueless mega rich new ownership. Remember how they were all in bed together at first and under scrutiny in the early days the Matriarch said 'Jerome's role will diminish as time goes by' she didn't say his involvement would end. There may well be a 5th member around that farmhouse kitchen table when dealing with Rovers. A member perhaps represented on the board by a duel agent who's worked for both companies. The sheer number of players who are seeing out their contracts here now is also interesting when considering this.

Punishment for the snowball is the craziest theory on here the rot was well and truly set in way before that. The 30 million a season black hole they'd created which lead to a fire sale and relegation was less snowball and more Anderson/Kean, And Venkys own ignorance.

'Bit in paper' ?