We need 50 points to be relatively safe I think.

You have to get more bodies into the last third of the pitch to score more goals. Unless your work rate is up there with the best you can then get caught on the break. One of the reasons we haven't conceded many goals is until recently only Rhodes played in the last third. Lambert's job is to get more players getting forward without conceding goals.

This.

The problem is and I was guilty of this myself, was that with those early wins, we started to sniff the play offs and it peaked our ambitions with promises of a new dawn.

We'd no chance of the play-offs at any point. Just look at the squad when Lambert came in. There may have been three teams worse than us at the start of the season but I'd be hard pressed to name them then.

How many players can you name who drop out of the professional game in their teens and then fight back their way back, all the way to the top flight and England team ?

This isn't a "love-in" but a player deserves a pat on the back when it's due. Whichever way you look at it, Vardy's is an extraordinary story.

Lambert's results have been poor; criticism on here has been pretty mild really. If Lambert is still here in 10 years I'll eat my flat cap.

If you can name any manager now that will be managing at the same club in ten years time you're a good'un Jim. If you can name one that will still be there in five years time it'll be quite an achievement these days.

Yes, I don't really count that as the modern game though! I mean more in the last twenty five years or so, after the influx of money and the massive advantage it's given the likes of Man United, and later Chelsea, Man City, etc.

Only seems like yesterday to me matey.

Forest did it in the late 70s too, and then followed it up with two European Cup triumphs. That - for me - is the greatest achievement ever by an English club.

I agree with that.

Without question. We were considered genuine title challengers in 94/95, Leicester were being pegged for the drop and Ranieri as the first manager to get the sack at the start of the season. Not sure there's a precedent anywhere in the modern game.

Ipswich Town under Alf Ramsey were promoted from the old Second Division in 1960-61 and won the old First Division the very next year. That was pretty remarkable.

Precisely.

Watched the highlights of the city/Leicester game last night and Leicester were absolutely brilliant. The guys up front - especially Vardy ran city ragged. No standing isolated waiting for someone to give him the ball. He and his fellow front men ran their socks off and put city on the back foot for the 90 mins.Those guys made things happen and I'm quite sure that's how Lambert wants us to play. That's how I want us to play as well. Play the game at a high pace coupled with a great work ethic and lots of movement.

I watched that as well Den. What a tremendous work ethic Leicester have. No lost causes there. Anybody wondering what's missing from Rhodes game ?

Just watch Vardy.

I think the question that was posed and never answered by the " All our eggs in one basket " Rhodes cheerleaders was - "What happens if he gets injured ? "

Still waiting for an answer to that one.

Of course a cynic would argue that given his style of play he was pretty unlikely to get injured unless he dropped his wallet onto his foot.

What's all this talk of bans ? What would they be for ? Goading ? Could you define that for me please ? I thought we were all grown up's on here.

I'm not going to dignify that question with an answer.

That's pretty clear then.

Bit of a false sense of security that given the distinct lack of goals in our squad.

2015/16Rhodes 8

Akpan 2

Conway 2

Hanley 2Lawrence 2

O.G. 2

Delfouneso 1

Duffy 1

Evans 1

Plus 3 pens (Rhodes 2, Marshall 1)

Excluding Rhodes, the remaining players have managed 9 goals, plus 1 penalty, in 27 games.

Again, aside from Rhodes, we've scored 1 goal from in the last 8 league games (and only 3 including Rhodes and own goals).

If Graham and Watt don't hit the ground running our goals could really dry up.

Stuart, who do you want to succeed tomorrow, Rhodes or Rovers ? I think we should be told.

Apart from a strange own goal, he and Platt did very well against a decent Villa attack. Both seem to read the game well and both are good in the air and can put a foot in when required. There are a number of promising youngsters in this bunch and it will be interesting to see if they can push on to the next level.

Let's hope so. The kids seem to be on the up. A couple knocking on the door towards the end next season would be great.

Lars Bohinen is manager of Norwegian outfit Sandefjord and in 2011 finished third on Norway's version of Strictly Come Dancing. He joined Rovers from Forest in 1995.

NORWEGIAN international Lars Bohinen could spark off Ray Harford's imminent spending spree by joining Blackburn Rovers from Nottingham Forest this week for £700,000.

Some may recall Georgios Donis returned to Ewood as manager of Larissa in 2007. Been sacked a few times since then and is currently managing Al-Hilal. He was actually highly rated when he joined Rovers as United were also interested.

Blackburn Rovers have beaten arch rivals Manchester United for the signing of Greek superstar Georgios Donis.

I remember Donis playing against Ajax in the Champions League and running Winston Bogarde ragged. He looked a good player off that showing.

Theres no way with either Bowyers squad or the one we have now we should be relegated. Most of the teams in the division would love Evans, Marshall, Conway, certainly Rhodes, Duffy, Hanley now Watt whose come in is coveted.

If we get relegated it is managerial incompetence.

Its a top half/ mid table unbalanced squad marginally underperforming under Bowyer. PL needs to bring it up two levels.

I'd have put my house on us being in the bottom six when the season started in August. I had a sneaking feeling we'd be going down also. We had nothing that a team needs to win enough games to stay up.

Name them ..

My mum has a saying - " If the cap fits, wear it ".

This is starting to look like I have a down on the lad but I haven't. John O'Sullivan withdrawn last night after getting a yellow card for a retaliatory foul. Sounds like he's trying too hard.

3 KP

Nah, he's finished.

Notice Scott Wharton has been given a squad number, may feature against Newport on Monday?

Not really a game for kids. It's going to be a man's game, let's hope we can find a few.

We could have won this change in weather came at the wrong time, but will be very confident heading into the 3rd test.

Nah, we'd have batted it out no problem.

Is he drawing his pension yet ? The one thing Shebby got right.

The squad of players we started the season with was a squad that I thought would quite probably have been relegated. Nothing player wise has changed, they are still a collection of players devoid of everything you need to be a successful football team. We have a squad without balance and without any real leaders on the field, they play like boys in a mans game.

I had hoped our new management team ( all very experienced football men ) would have had more of an impact by this point. Maybe I underestimated the task in hand.

I remember feeling like this when Mark Hughes took over, for a month or two we were equally bad albeit at a much higher level. Then he brought some MEN in who were prepared to get stuck in, run furthest, and get more than their share of 50/50 balls, contested headers etc.

Let's see what the window brings.

No multiple stepovers, no rabonas, no showboating just great balance, close control and the ability to accelerate away from his opponent. What a player.

Did he make his debut as a 17 year old against Leicester in the last game of the season? I seem to remember his introduction being overshadowed by a young lad who looked like a cross between Frank Bruno and Linford Christie. Emille Heskey trampled all over us that day and bagged a couple as they beat us 4-2. Of course, that could all be nonsense as I'm sure somebody will point out.

I also have a vague memory of him playing up front with Kevin Gallacher in what must have been Rovers most diminutive forward partnering?

I remember Bryan Douglas , Bobby Craig and Joe Haverty playing up front for us. Dougie was the tallest at 5' 6", Craig was 5' 5" and " Little Joe " 5' 3".

Don't remember him TS, only Beattie and Thomas. I know that for some cup games they were allowed to merge the two youth teams. May be it was Beattie and Thomas when they did that but I don't remember Cassin or whoever. Perhaps he played prop for the Hornets? :-)

You could count on the fingers of one hand Rovers players who could have played prop for Hornets. John Bray would have been a good shout. Kevin Moran and Matt Woods had the heart for it .

Graeme Cassin was a defender I am sure, was in our youth team from 94-98 so could be him you are thinking of

He played up front with Beattie when Duff was on the left wing.

One of my all time favourites. I used to watch the youth teams down at Brockhall in that period when Duffer played for them. I even watched them away on one occasion and that was down to Duffer in the main. Unbelievable player, Damien I salute you.

The lad that played up front with Beattie was James Thomas. Just as good as Beattie at that level and time but, whilst he played professional football, did it in the lower leagues from memory.

Thomas isn't the guy I'm thinking of. I remember Thomas scoring against Bolton on his Premier League debut. It was downhill after that. The lad I'm thinking of was called Cassin I think.

He's the left winger in my Rovers all time 11. Absolutely top class at both Club and International level. I first saw him play for the Youth Team and I wasn't massively impressed. James Beattie and a lad playing number 10 ( Graeme Cassin ? ) were much more impressive.