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With Prem money to pay all the overtime needed. I find the whining statement from Leeds amusing for 4 reasons. 1 - if their fans weren't trouble making scum we probably wouldn't be in this position. Maybe control those first- I hear failing to do so can get you a 35k fine. I wonder how many of those they've had, and whether they got one for when their mob wrecked the Postal Order. 2 - the kickoff was at 12.30pm last year, even earlier. They're an hour better off. 3 - apparently they rejected an earlier kickoff time of 12.30pm this year...which means they had a veto, which means they didn't exercise it on the 1.30pm kickoff. Which means they are essentially voicing frustration at a decision they agreed to. 4 - they're complaining about how late the decision was made because it could inconvenience supporters' plans...the fucking game is still over 2 months away! Leeds United FC - clearly pricks just like their fans.

Especially given that a Premiership team with all their money only paid the same fee, after he had smashed the Championship, become a Chilean star, and top-scored for a Prem team in half a season. Quite what we thought we were doing paying it for a kid with a bit of promise whilst we were a poor Championship side with FFP to worry about really is a mystery.

It does make you wonder why these teams acquired him, given his main asset simply doesn't play to their style. Well, except Villareal, I guess it's obvious they were just looking to make some easy profit.

Likewise, that's why I only said contributed to. Forest were pathetic during that saga. So were we, but at least we weren't hypocritical about it. The player also bears some responsibility for seemingly going backwards, but I can understand the effect the psychological stress of the whole ordeal would have had. Players aren't immune to psychology and biology just because they're paid very well, as some people seem to think.

Sounds like our bullshit hit him hard. Have we contributed to killing a career?

Who? That just links to the message board.

Apparently that hasn't happened. They have a stay of execution.

That's the point. Sign him on in Jan whilst there are not 'loads of teams fighting for his signature'. If even one team is competing with us in the summer, we either lose a player we've decided to keep, and need to source a replacement again in a summer where we already have a lot to do, or pay a higher wage to keep him. Waiting until teams are competing is why we keep losing players for bugger all.

Don't we pretty much always sell out what they give us at Deepdale?

Of course it's a derby. It's just not the derby. It's actually 1.4 miles closer than the dingle dome.

Weimann only scored 3 goals in 29 appearances last season. It was well under his usual figures. This season he already has 3 in 6 games, including a worldie. He'll be one year older, but if he manages to notch a decent number it's easy to see why there'd be more interest in him next summer than there was this summer. Yes the decline can accelerate, that's why I said I'd leave it til about January. If there are no signs of decline by then, I'd give him another year if his wages aren't too high. His experience and versatility can be helpful. Wages are key considerations for all of these sorts of players who aren't guaranteed starters. And really we don't know what any of them are on. I suspect Hedges isn't on so much, and Siggy probably is, and of the two Hedges has probably provided more but has more injury issues. I think with those two it might be keep one or the other. I suspect we'd need to move fairly soon if we decided Siggy was the one to keep, as he will have interest in Europe and strikes me as a bit of a mercenary, but like you I think his wages are probably at the top end of our structure. I think based on evidence so far, we can do better. A slight shame he'll be off on a free though as we could probably have managed 500k to 1 mill if his contract was longer.

My boot scootin' baby is drivin' me crazy.

Do you mean the goal he scored against Watford? Siggy is the one who smashed a couple in against QPR in probably his best performance. Hedges didn't score, but he got the goal of the season against Watford. I'd potentially keep both players, but the wages would have to be right. I see them as good squad players but not regular starters for a team hunting the top six, which is what we would hope to be. Siggy maybe needs to show he can put a bit of graft and desire in first though. Think we'd be able to get our money back on Hedges tbh, maybe a slight profit, if it weren't for his contract running down, but it's not big bucks either way. Dolan will only leave for nothing if he goes abroad. Otherwise he's young enough for compensation so long as we've made him an offer on equal or better terms to his current deal.

I think it'd be better to decide on Weimann in particular in January. If he keeps up performance levels and doesn't get injured, we may find we get some competition in the summer despite his age, and we know how well we stave off competition... When would you make a decision on Hedges and Siggy?

This video would suggest we might be less likely to lose Ohashi - sounds like the Japanese are culturally allergic to quitting!

Yeh Nakamura played for them in the second half of the 00's. He's the one that was a beast at free kicks and distance goals if I remember rightly?

Chan is a term of address, or honorific. I thought I'd remembered it as being essentially 'brother', or towards a male friend, but I'm remembering wrong! Apparently 'In general, -chan is used for young children, close friends, babies, grandparents and sometimes female adolescents.' Obviously he's not a female adolescent, but I wonder if it's still a term of endearment kind of thing related to some of those other uses. I also found that 'oniichan' can mean either a familiar form of 'older brother' (which may have been what my memory was thinking) or be a form of address to a young adult male. And I'm thinking the 'O' part could just be an abbreviation of Ohashi, especially since it's separated by the hyphen apparently. So possibly along the lines of either 'kid Ohashi' or 'big brother Ohashi' with some wordplay involved. Perhaps pertaining to the anime fox spirit thing too, or maybe just one of these meanings. Japanese is such a different language to Western languages it can be hard to translate literally! But yeh it may just be the anime thing, though I can't help but feel the 'O' and 'Ohashi' are related. Interesting that Rovers' social media have just started using the moniker without really explaining it at all though 😂

Compensation, not a free, unless he moves abroad. As long as we offer him a deal on similar or better terms.

A centre back with pace is the weakness there, not just a centre back. If Carter gets injured we are as pedestrian as hell there, and the whole team essentially becomes only fit for backs to the wall football.

You could argue it's negative for all the clubs for the same reason. But the Prem clubs have always been able to accumulate more youngsters and get them better loans. Could be part of why the club have become more active in loaning out youngsters to senior levels, even if those levels are hardly impressive, as they may be worried about how sanitised the PL2 has become.

I very nearly wrote 'what's her position?' instead...

Where does she play?

True, but are they ready for it? If they're not, I'm not sure what the effect on confidence and development could be of regular pastings. At least relegation is gone, so in that regard we can afford the risk. Hopefully it works as a step up for the kids and they develop faster, sink or swim I guess, we'll just have to see which they do. I'm not really talking numbers though (although some of those positions, like LB, are a little light for two teams and a heavy fixture schedule), I'm talking quality. A lot of the safer hands at that level are out on loan. The rest, looks like a disproportionate amount of first year scholars, think the U21s will suffer. And then the U18s will suffer because most of their best players are padding the U21s out. Duru shouldn't really be on there, he's in the first team squad now. I doubt he will play many U21 games, just the odd one for fitness. Don't disagree with Batty being loaned out, we really need to start seeing if he can cut it in senior football. Same goes for some of the others. Some though, not heard enough to think there's much point loaning them out as it doesn't seem likely they'll make it here. I know that's a bit cold as they could have careers elsewhere they need to develop for, but I'm more interested in the club's wellbeing. Kids like Finneran and Phillips have shown they don't care about our wellbeing, so I'm not overly fussed on theirs if it comes at the expense of the club in any way. Not to mention getting routinely pasted could hinder the development of those not loaned out. I'm not actually that bothered, nor saying it's going to be a disaster, I was mostly being glib with my initial post, but I do think it will have a detrimental knock on effect for the youth teams, and by extension, potentially on the development of the rest of the crop.

Good thing we've loaned half the squad out then...