If they said that, they're plonkers. Don't bother with this sort of non-sense. All the clubs have yet to sort out their squads ahead of next season.

I really don't understand why people are so upset about Liverpool not being allowed into next seasons Champions League. The rules were clear that the holders no longer had an automatic place. So, they weren't good enough in the Premier League. Personally, I like the rule as it is. I like the idea that a team has to balance it's commitment to both the domestic league and the champions league. Liverpool didn't make that balance. Put most of their effort into the European campaign, and not enough into the Premier League. Tough. The World Cup on the other hand... don't agree with the holders not being automatically placed in that (is that right?)

Oops... I misread Vinjay's post. Sorry. Still believe he's trolling.

Mods, surely that's trolling...

Brilliant. Works a treat. Thanks for that.

Where is that button? I really, really feel the need to use it. TIA.

Really looking forward to pics from the evening

Does this scenario sound plausible? I would imagine that United will continue their recent trend of drumming up business in the US, by touring there in the pre-season. But now, I would imagine Glazier will be a bit more demanding about playing all the stars all the time during the tour, in an attempt to attract the maximum no. of paying supporters in the States. So, if the above prediction is accurate, I speculate that: 1. Ferguson will go. RFW is unlikely to fall quietly into line, likely because, as we all know, a team can over-do it in pre-season, and compromise their performance in the upcoming season. A yes man, at least to this prospect, looks likely. 2. As stated above, United's season will be compromised by over-doing it in pre-season. They won't be able to make up the difference on Chelsea and Arsenal... and may perhaps slip further back. As philipl says, perhaps they will be replaced by Liverpool. Which would cast further mockery on their assertion of a permanent Champions League place.

Not meaning to put anyone down, but I have trouble accepting so many of the idealist views on this thred... surely it is well past the end for Jansen now? His playing arrangement for next season gives him only the slightest of slight chances of resurrecting his playing career, let alone his Rovers career. Without malice... "get real".

The Fulham performance was equally good in my opinion. Hughes is doing a great job of getting the players to play as a team. Today this was on show. A Rovers performance to be proud of.

Sorry Ben but I feel your miles off, no one on that pitch tonight came close to the superb performance of our captain Ryan Nelsen Nelson and the young kid from Villa - Cahill - were both superb. I was impressed by Cahill. And laughed at something I lip read from him. When Dickov backed into him one time, he told the ref "he does it all the time"... which is true of course, this is not a criticism of Dickov

It's infurating that our wingers can't just play well in their own positions. I could see that, unless we wanted to carry Emerton for the whole game, we had to switch him over. I'm glad Hugues made the switch, but it is almost a forced tactic. Both Emerton and MGP should do more in their own positions. In the end, fantastic strike by MGP, and even with Rovers below par, Burnley can never match Rovers for sheer class.

Cliff Richard is the ref ? No, you are wrong... it is Elton John

Because I've learnt the rules for why you should hate someone from this messageboard.

Matt Jansen

But it has become all to predictable from certain members.

Come on mods, rig a dead-heat

I usually do to be fair - but sometimes you have to defend yourslef on here against the less cultured posters A Burnley supporter making judgements about culture

You want a player to stay who refused to wear the shirt by not wanting to play for Colchester. Mate, defended you on another thread, but here you've failed to read Tris's post. Tris said, that to him, it *is* a different matter when BF didn't want to put on the shirt for the Colchester match. See the portion I kept in the quote.

Come off it Jim. It would have been cutting the nose of to spite the face. The transfer value of BF, over the subsequent six months we taught him a lesson/handled the disruption to the squad, would have fallen so sharply, he would have left next to nothing in the summer. I seriously don't understand this? What precedent? Player power! It happens all the time all over the place. This is no precedent. What makes you think Rovers are/were immune to it? Duff pushed us all the way to resigning his contract. If the club hadn't worked extra hard in that area, Rovers would not have been in a position to turn down the first approx 15 million bid from Chelsea, nor receive the subsequent 18 (or whatever it actually was) million when the contract clause was met. And Dunn wasn't going to put his pen on paper to extend the two years left on his contract. If he'd stayed, with one year on his contract left, he would have been worth much less than the 5 million Rovers got.

As I see it, it's an even fight. Why would moderators need to step in?

If you cast aside his wages, as well as the 500K we'd get that is conditional, it's a 2million pound loss. It's bad, but it isn't anything like the losses on players like Grabbi and Davies. Considering the situation, I am relieved that we averted greater loss for a player who didn't want to be at the club.

We get 2m cash + 500k later. Added to that we dont owe them the 2.5m anymorw. Ie we been taken to the cleaners by a bunch of mickey mouse scotsmen. You do realise, that having bought him for 6.5 million, waving the 2.5 still owed means we effectively bought him for 4 million. So, 2m cash + 500K is not so bad. 1.5 million + wages loss for a season and a half. It could have been much worse. Grabbi or Davies for example.

Has Bellamy reject a move to Birmingham, because it is too far from Wales

I don't mind being accused of harbouring no ambition for the club I support, but I would rather Rovers were relegated, then buy Bellamy for 6 million. Not because it's Bellamy (although I do have a loathing), but because it's 6 million pounds (+ saving on wages) we would need if we were relegated (a scenario that could happen anyway, need I remind everyone). Rovers have just spent 3 million pounds on Savage, plus a bit here and there on other signings. A bargain buy for a striker, and that's enough.