Is it bash Abbey day?? Hes a better supporter than alot on here

Could have been the best left winger on the planet until mourinho coached it out of him

Played metal gear for free under the ps4 store its quite a good game if not for the fact that it's impossible to tell where you are supposed to be going

Same guy, yes.

Yep and Ipswich and Birmingham are in the play off places, go figure

Nope

Think its safe to add reading as one of the clubs who will finish above rovers

You say Cardiff and Bolton weaker than us, that's two teams, 3 teams go down you know? So are you saying its between us and Huddersfield for that last relegation spot?

Is it still gerald Jackson?

I have some experience in challenging authority on radio when I used to ring in to talk sport regularly. I once challenged some well known Geordie journalist when he said Burnley were a better supported club than rovers, Tom watts was the most pleasant radio presenter I have spoken to

Radio propaganda biased load of @#/?, pathetic station only interested in serving venkys interests, tossers

Probably 4 points

I apologise to jh, I was tired and a bit tipsy when i wrote it but my stance remains the same

Can't agree with you on Holloway.

If you think effectively relegating Millwall in his only full season in charge after they had been in this division for 5 years counts as doing no worse than Bowyer then we'll just have to disagree.

If Holloway was any good he'd have found a way of keeping Millwall up on their limited resources. Smaller clubs with smaller budgets have managed it. In my opinion Holloway is a very unique type of manager who has a very unique way of managing. It worked wonders at Blackpool because that club itself is quite unlike any other at this level, it worked for a very short and critical time at Palace when they were in the play-offs before things quickly unravelled.

Bowyer's biggest 'failure' has been that at 2 attempts he hasn't got this club promoted. Now we can talk about player turnover and wage spending all day long. We can talk about underachievement. The reality is that only 3 clubs can go up and there are a lot of other teams who all feel they should be getting promoted.

Does failing to get Middlesbrough promoted make Karanka a bad manager? Because in the end, play-off final or not, he has had better conditions to work in than Bowyer, a bigger budget than Bowyer and yet here he is managing in the Championship with Bowyer. Same goes for Steve McClaren. Failed to deliver his target of promotion at 2 attempts, sacked at Derby because of that, but that doesn't make him a bad manager, otherwise he wouldn't have gone straight into the Newcastle job.

Does not getting us promoted make Bowyer a bad manager? In my opinion no. I can accept that we underachieved quite substantially last year, as I personally believe the squad we had was capable of the top 6, but in my view there is a difference between a manager who doesn't get a team promoted and a manager that leaves a club getting relegated.

If Bowyer was that bad or that much of a failure we would have spent time in the bottom half of the division and been in the relegation picture. But we haven't.

I've already said that in view of last season's underachievement it would have been understandable had the owners wanted more for their money and made a change. For whatever reason they didn't and are planning on giving Bowyer more time. I'm fine with that, because I think that given the changes that the club has had to go through these last 2 years finishes of 8th and 9th are by no means the catastrophic failure that some feel they were.

What happened last season has been and gone. Promotion wasn't achieved, a top ten finish was. Better sides than us failed to achieve promotion also (Derby, Boro, Wolves) whilst others (Wigan and Brighton) spent the season in and around the bottom 3 despite starting off as favourites.

Now we're onto another season and its a blank slate for me. 2 losses from 2 is poor. I'm angry and disappointed about the cup performance but I thought we were unfortunate against Wolves. If we win on Saturday then I'll be happy again.

If we lose our next 3 then I'll probably be agreeing with most on here that its time for a change, because as difficult as Bowyer's job has been and as much as I would like to see him get through the embargo, the club simply cannot risk going into League One.

You've posted a lot of crap, but I respect the time you have put into it and when I can be arsed I will reply to it

Great post

Me too parson only because there are a few shitter teams than rovers, not because rovers are any good

In some ways, as Brentford have a new manager these types of results might be expected but for rovers, not acceptable

Well may as well start

Netflix is total @#/?, 10 pounds a month to watch old movies and TV shows, I think I will stick with Google play.

Is anyone still doing the ps4 online thingy, I have FIFA, grand theft auto, wondered if anyone plays online on here

james brown - living in america

very sad, I thought he was getting better, shame, was given a great chance to manage a team like Barcelona and now hes lost his battle against cancer

what a bunch of pansies they are in la liga, rolling around when someone steps on their toe, gareth bale is quality but he still looks like a monkey

I watched it too, seen it before, was on film4 I think, I then bought on google play

thanks