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The Directorate of Enforcement investigation started in 2021, I wonder how soon into this Venkys became aware of it.

Any exceptions?

It does and I maintain this is most likely to have been last year upon his signing. Having read the Home Office guidance it seems you can only use the short term visa if your stay in the UK is going to be under 12 months. The assumption, at point of application, must have been that Toth would be staying longer than that and therefore the long term visa would be the relevant one. Anyways, I’m sure I’m now boring most people with this so I’ll leave it here but for the record I hope I’m wrong and you (and @KentExile) are right as this will free up an ESC place sooner.

I’m as certain as I can be that 25-26 will be Wrexham’s ‘year 3’ for the Championship’s FFP rules. They lost £2.7 million in 23-24 so that would leave them £36.3 million for 24-25 + 25-26.

‘cos it’s paid in instalments right?

Perhaps we didn’t grease the wheels enough.

Why would the player have gone for the 12 month ISP when he has a three year contract? That would mean him having the right to be and work in the country for one year but being contractually tied to us for a further two. I also doubt the Home Office would grant a one year visa to someone with a three year work contract.

The first court case made clear they were wanting to send money to ‘protect their investment’. To me this = the bare minimum.

We registered 23 players at the start of last season. 12 of those remain at the club. That sort of turnover cannot be healthy (with the exception of agents’ bank accounts)

Despite the name of that website, I think he’s wrong. The regulation very clearly states the time period and when that time period starts from. I’m perfectly happy to be the one who’s incorrect but I just can’t see how I can be misinterpreting the wording.

I wonder if this restriction is to ‘encourage’ clubs to use their ESC places on players they intend to go straight into the first eleven. The two other ways to convert to a non ESC continue beyond the initial 12 months - maybe Toth will eventually qualify under one of those.

They will think of something.

Matches when a player is injured don’t count towards the calculation. Here’s the link as requested (it is the GBE rules in their entirety): https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/registrations/gbe-2025-26/fa-mens-players-gbe-criteria-202526.ashx

Nope - see below from the FA doc:

It’s not the last 12 months, it’s the 12 months from the GBE being granted.

Yes, as that part of the regulation says play 50% of the minutes (and play in 25% of the games) within the 12 months following the date from which he was granted his GBE. We announced his signing on 30th August and he was on the bench the following day so his year runs out at the end of this month - and he’s currently on 6 matches out of a possible 42.

I said it earlier, but I’m going to say it again anyway 😁: It is not reasonable to expect Toth to meet the (minutes played) criteria to convert, in fact i believe it is impossible. (and less likely for Kargbo = highly unlikely imo).

or was it deliberate 🧐🧐😁

Perhaps BRFCS should have its own celebration.

I’ve never tried it so don’t know if the court has a ‘block’ but there are certainly buttons to allow me to unmute my mic or enable my camera.

I have them now and then. I try not to make a habit of it though 😁

Has the forum considered giving the club a deadline after which they’ll publish the minutes (elsewhere) themselves?

Maybe. The good news is they don’t need a court case to be able to send money across. The bad news is they don’t want to meet the conditions which allow them to do so.

Or the new members simply had a different opinion on what should and shouldn’t have been minuted and what ‘tone’ should’ve been emphasised more. Without us seeing both versions of the minutes (which I’m sure we won’t) it will be very hard for us to come to any sort of conclusion.

Judge has finished for the day (nothing more to be said…)