So it looks like its been put back again ?

Well i never, why rush i mean we must have at least two grand of the first Wharton instalment left !

7 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

This club doesn't prioritise results, surely the only pro outfit at any level to preach such a non-competitive mantra - and it shows.

Think of Bowyer, think of Mowbray, now this guy. It's all an 'ah well' shrug of the shoulders and on to the next one. 

A development Academy that happens to have one of it's sides playing in a senior league.

Sell Sammie in Summer and that'll be 30 mill plus of players either through academy or bought and developed so they'll be jumping over themselves to say their model worked.

Bonuses in certain pockets and carry on.

3 hours ago, lraC said:

I'm pretty sure that's not correct. I think he was due a bonus when he left, but nothing like that level, so far as I am aware.

Probably down to a loyalty bonus when he signed his contract here that would be paid if he saw it through ( no doubt Nyambe, Rothwell, Lenhihen and BBD benefited from similar hence them happy to walk )

So if the club sell they are liable to pay up straight away as they are the sellers, although no doubt it'll be spun as he wanted to leave.

By the sounds of his latest comments hes shrugged his shoulders and is expecting it to go to the wire.

If it does we'l fail.

Surely though just one other win since Stoke and we might not have to go down to the wire. When a new guy comes in to turn it around i'd have thought 'must win' from the word go was the mentality needed.

Now he's preaching grim acceptance.

Tax bill probably.

Sadly they ain't on trial for crimes against an English football institution nor money laundering it's just a box ticking exercise, yes you can release funds/no you can't release funds we need more information, case adjourned !

46 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

A damning indictment of our awful tenure under this lot...a truly shameful situation.

And why can't we, why haven't we emulated them in the last decade ?

How can clubs almost extinct, Cov are another, who've plumbed the depths, had tiny income because they didn't have billionaire owners then suddenly come back and surpass us ?

Preston as well, Burnley in our shadows for 3 decades have now left us behind in the time Venkys have run this club.

It's unbelievable it's like a work of fiction.

'Nobody would buy us we lose 20 million a year...'

Social media tag line.

Dann was a good player - not here odd game aside - but he was a tosser with an attitude just here as a stepping stone whilst earning massive wages.

There was something very odd about that signing but it was in an era of odd signings so it's nailed on to be iffy. We have to remember it started with the transfer fee quoted as millions to pacify Brum fans when in fact it was a lot less and made up massively in unlikely add ons.

Source - Nixon, when he was doing his 11 pm'ers courtesy of his foot in the Anderson camp.  Brum needed him off the wage bill pronto and he wasn't fit.  Came here simply to get fit and get gone.

Also more whiff, he was signed by Kean and when we were relegated the Snake then made him club captain which meant the relegation decrease in his wages was avoided due to the terms of his contract and being made captain, 35k pwk i believe.

Just another in the long line of piss takers.

On 09/03/2024 at 22:47, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Any statheads remember what mowbrays run of results where when he first took over and lead us to religation? 

I don't recall it being much different to Eustace (ie lots of draws and a few critical loses) I don't recall him getting this kind of stick though (and the squad that we had that season probably had a little more quality and strength in depth) 

The first Mowbray game i saw was Barnsley at home and i knew then we'd go down and probably posted it on here.

Team was shite, defence made mistakes and his tactics were odd and in the first several games i saw nothing to make me think he was the man for the job.

Of course that wonderful hindsight tells us if he'd maintained that record over a season we would have stayed up but the reality was neither he nor the squad had enough about it for almost half a season to do enough.

7 hours ago, rovers11 said:

I don't think it will be as catastrophic financially as last time we got relegated. We've banked £22m from Wharton and have around £4m coming from Raya. We had zero assets to sell last time we went down but we have Szmodics and Carter we can sell for decent money this time around too so we'll be OK financially. Plus there's a new TV deal which means lge 1 clubs will get 25% more than they do now and the players will have clauses to slash their wages.

What is does mean is that player sales will cover any losses very easily, but how do we then replace the small amount of quality players we do have whilst also adding quality in other areas of the squad that desperately need replenishing.

Looking at the clubs in league 1, it's a very poor league that we'd do well in. The likes of Garret, Leonard, Gilsenan would do very well in lge 1. But a club like ours should not be anywhere near that league. Thank you Venkys.

 

League 1 is full of Garretts, Leonards etc league 1 clubs do have their own young players you know.

If you think what's left of this squad will do well i'd suggest you need a rethink our wallflowers will get kicked from pillar to post.

5 hours ago, bigbrandjohn said:

So I am a little confused. We didn't get the Sunderland chap because he was over 30. Then all of a sudden we get two over 30 year olds in this window. One is out for the season and the other banned because he is a trifle slow. 
 

 

Because the Ewood brains trust have now chosen to blow a million on 2 short term to the end of the season 'frees' instead of committing a bit more in a 2 year deal for a better and slightly younger player.

Penny wise pound foolish as always but it's ok the bean counters see the sense in it !

We'll go there and park the bus, hoof it to Gallagher and lose 1-0.

5 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

An undeserved point, a great goal from SS and Hyari looking half decent are the only positives I can take from that.

We are going down unless we majorly fluke a result or someone else loses every match 

Next match I’d consider Telavovic and SG with SS. Hyari, Buckley and Moran with a back four behind them. 

Would be interesting if nothing else 🫣🥳
 

 

Never ever play Moran in centre mid again !

Fine lines again today.

Nothing wrong with the start and we should have been 2 too the good but they did carve is open too easy once they settled down. Clearly our lack of pace at the back is a target and gives a massive dilemma for Eustace in the need to not play too high a line which then affects us attack wise.

Crap recruitment for years is behind that we haven't had pace anywhere in defence since Olsson but these present lads don't just lack pace they have concrete boots but fatigue won't help.

Today though keep 11 and we might have been holding on for 3 points it seemed one of those days but in the end it's a fortunate draw.

Over all another shite week which seems in some parts to be triumphant because 'at least we didn't lose' and whilst there is truth in that it also can't be overlooked that if we went for it in the games and just won 1 then that's 3 point instead of 2.

That was the JDT philosophy.

5 hours ago, Moptop1 said:

One day something will come to light. Then the house of cards will fall.

Then watch them and all involved crumble. 

I hope that day comes sooner than later and we can rebuild some sort of normality as a Club.

Well i've been saying that for a decade and something finally did in terms of the funds being used for houses and pop stars instead of the club.

I'm certain there is loads more but that will be well buried now and nobody will investigate it anyway this has only come to light because of a miffed govt in India.  They've only scratched the surface and will only be interested in anything that looks like they've been evading tax so it'll probably blow over eventually.

Then we'll be left with much reduced funding due to the 20% levy so league 1 we are coming whether it's now or in the near future.

32 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Why is it pathetic and small minded?

The lad has been at Rovers since he was 12 years old and is looking forward to seeing old friends on his return (his words), yet he demanded the clause in his contract that allowed him to be sold for well under his market value.

Why would I cheer him? He's shafted the club that I support. He couldn't wait to leave. 

I see where you're coming from but he did sign a contract which enabled Rovers to get a fee plus add ons.

He could have walked 12 months earlier for minimum compensation so he obviously wasn't that eager to leave until there was something he probably couldn't turn down financially.

Booing him is petty, best just to treat him with silence.

59 minutes ago, lraC said:

I know people are reluctant to believe it, but it is possible for so much to have been made that pumping in millions per season, may still mean a tidy profit has been made.

People are asking why the owners are carrying on regardless when they seem to be getting nothing out of it. As we know a statement has been made this very week, to say they have no plans to sell and are here for the long haul.

Until is is proved otherwise my view will always be, that they are hiding something. 

I still think the reason they carry the club now is because it sits comfortably in the VH group portfolio soaking up a lump of spare money some of which goes through the pipes elsewhere.  That has kind of been proven with what's going on now over there with the investigations etc.

Don't think that's why they bought it but that is what it became and as for betting i think if that goes on it's just a nice little perk from owning their plaything.

In the early days though i very much think some involved were in it for that very reason.

33 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Pretty pathetic and small minded  if he does.

Which is why Wharton’s move was a sensible one. A smaller Premier League club, but with a realistic chance of regular game time.

I still think people need to put themselves in the player’s shoes, though, when weighing up a big career decision like that.

They may say otherwise, but the vast majority of people would make the same decision that Phillips did.

Teams like Spuds have been known to throw in cars, penthouses, jobs for family arranged etc when luring young players plus there is London to play around in during their downtime.

It's a heady brew when plonked in front of a young lad from a small town club.

Philips it was probably hard to turn down going from a few grand a week to about ten plus whatever other incentives a club like Spurs throw into a young player package.

However from a football perspective it was a bit stupid given that here he'd have been maybe a 1st choice starter now or not far off form permitting.  Games under his belt in the Championship = bigger transfer fee, bigger initial wages and more chance of being a Prem starter.

As it is it's Plymouth this year for him then probably Hull or Qpr next season.

It's like hes been tared and feathered as straight out of the Kean/Coyle stable of ####s just installed here by a third party to do their dirty work.

A bit too early to be marking him down like that imo.

Trying to portray him as a hate figure is pathetic to be honest he's just another run of the mill British coach walking into a mess and trying to stabilise it using his previous trusted methods.  No different to anyone else walking in just like when Mowbray did and if it wasn't him it'd be someone of very similar ilk.

Not saying i'm impressed or a huge fan but i can at least see where it all stems from and the much wider issues he's dealing with and after a few weeks he shouldn't have to fight fans as well, all he's doing is trying to pacify everybody and that's understandable.

We are likely stuck with him whatever happens now so no point doing anything other than backing him in the next few games at least.

There is way too much hate floating around for this guy hes only been here 5 mins.

I get the frustration at the football and lack of wins but it's 2  wins in 18 and that tells you the story here better than any managerial soundbites.  He's here to try and keep us up so we need to lay off him and stick to the real causes of this mess don't fall into the trap, he's just another human shield they've thrown up to protect themselves.

Had the fans not started kicking off i'm sure they'd have made JDT stick it out unless he or someone else bought out his contract. Only reason this happened all so quickly is because the fans, guided by JDTS comments, turned the heat up on the Shadowman and the Fat controller.

Don't kid yourselves otherwise, the whole mess is down to those 2 and that 4 over in India.

People in doubt this can have any sort of benefit need to read the many various articles out there based on fact not conspiracy.

That doesn't mean it's happening in our case but to just brush it off as nonsense or not worth it for anyone to do it is really naive.

3 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Well, clearly, we would have already been safe with Kaminski. I just hope the transfer fee compensates for all the lost revenue on relegation..Oh, wait....

Come summer we could well have sold 30 mill + of talent if Szmodics goes so some down there will proclaim the new 'model' is working.

Relegation is just a blip they couldn't care less if the bills are paid and commission and bonuses come through. Last time we went down it followed about 30 mill of sales with no reinvestment so i find it very hard to accept they don't know the risks they've created.

Last time Mowbray was given about 1.5 million to spend in lge 1 so don't be surprised if the idiots think it'll be that simple second time around.