44 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

He’s also refused to move from Derby which says everything you need to know. It’ll be another season of him being decent every 1 in 5 games.

Mowbray makes such a fuss of getting to know the background of players he wants to sign so how come this didn't flag up ?

Surely you'd be telling him he has to stay up here when he's training its as simple as that.

1 hour ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

I think he is an old man who is at risk of going on for too long. As I noted above I understand why people think highly of him. I haven't changed my opinion.

He still seems to have more drive in his 70's than your mate in his 50's.  He's a brave manager, not everybody's cup of tea but he can't be accused of bottling things. Like i said live by the sword, doesn't always work out but neither does plodding although the latter keeps you in work longer.

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Disgraceful how the Telegraph are implying that the market for a goalkeeper is a congested one suggesting that loads of clubs are after these players.

We've had a head start on everyone knowing both Walton and Leutwiler were away months ago.

Everyone else has at least one senior keeper on their books, none in as urgent need as we are.

Predictably the focus is on young inexperienced loans. Essentially ring City or Liverpool up and ask them to do us a favour and send someone here for next to nothing and avoid the commitment to a contract.

Never get promoted with such an approach.

They'll never ever pull Rovers up on the nitty gritty of these kind of things. Sharpe might pass comment on it on twitter or even in the paper. In front of Mowbray or Waggot then no chance, it would be a question with the easy answer already loaded or arse would drop completely and it would get skirted around.

They'll be mighty relieved this time the going through the motions fans forums are cancelled.

3 hours ago, stinny1 said:

Big Tony still on hoilday back in on Monday his secretary  back in today. From what ive  been told  no players will be sold unless its a silly offer . keeper to come in next week and than a couple of defenders and a utility  midfielder before  start of season . This is what ive been told from a friend who's well in  down ewood . He's  been right before but i don't  post stuff  on here because  it gets silly. But us fans need a bit of hope so i thought why not fingers crossed

Sounds perfectly acceptable to me as long as the keeper is decent and at least one of the defenders has a bit of quality suitable to decent championship level.

5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Maybe it’s just the way I’ve imagined the site works, I.e a mod can spot a row and cleans up accordingly. I didn’t realise that the hidden posts are usually down to a report, I’ve never reported a post in all my time here, nobody likes a grass!

Not knocking the likes of you K-HoD, you do a good job, I just thought it was a patronising way to talk to a poster like Bruce.

Anyway back to ‘transfers’.
 

 

I think i have a clean slate on reporting as well, live and let live i prefer to scroll past or respond in kind.

Live by the sword, die by it, a shame some don't have the minerals for that.  Reporting posts that aren't racist, homophobic etc is pathetic really.

Also i wish we had a manager who was more cavalier !

52 minutes ago, J*B said:

It depends entirely on FFP. Let’s say for argument sake we have saved 3m from the yearly budget — I say ‘yearly’ because a wage budget and a transfer budget doesn’t exist in football, they’re amalgamated into the same thing. If Dillon Phillips is available at 800K, that would be split at 200K/year based on a 4 year deal. Add wages of 12K a week (guessing), plus a 10% signing on fee at 80K, plus pension and NI, that would bring the yearly cost in at 1M quid. We could really bring three players in this year based on those figures. If the LB/CB plan is going to cost more than the Phillips deal we need to make a decision on who’s most important. 

The keeper, build from the back now.  He's tried building from the front and it hasn't worked out how it should yet but that's 2 pronged. Wrong players for what he's trying to do but undermined by still being weak at the back. A lot of the defensive howlers have actually been ironed out even if it's not perfect. However that's spoiled by having keepers who pull complete clangers out of nowhere.

Time to concentrate on the back over the next 2 or 3 windows if there is any money get it 'invested' there. He'll carry on trying mix and match at the front whoever he signs because that's what he does. The back needs to be settled in front of a solid keeper.

12 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Rochina MK2

Definitely has the talent but can't seem to fit into the team anywhere.

Under Mowbray his best chance is going to be on one side of a midfield 3.

I feel like he should be starting on one side of a front 3 (if we are continuing this 4-3-3 formation) but it doesn't seem to work for him there. His end product is a problem but surely his coaching should be focused on that?

How many have we in our squad that are more comfortable right side of a front 3 ? 

How many times does it actually work ? 

We collect wide forward for fun yet this guy can't mould at least one of them into a regular success.

12 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Bauer is a basic championship defender. He suited the way Preston played under Alex Neil. 

But we didn't sign him. 

Just like Alex Neil wanting Adam Armstrong at the same time as we signed him

Adarabioyo came here to play. Simple as

You've no idea if he was signed to be a starter or back up. Simple as that.

Neither have your 'sources' the only person who has is Mowbray.

I won't spend the owners money for the sake of it.

I think @simongarnerisgod might be bob on there in fact i think TM and the boys might be pushing for it.  All the excuses he needs for a lower mid water treading season. As long as they get assurances it isn't their fault so expectations have to be non other than just get by.

Another season ticked off at Mowbray Towers.

Personally i think if they go into the season with rookies or a gamble like Pears we will be suffering badly after ten games. 

20 minutes ago, Amo said:

We seem to have been flooded with Rothwell's ilk since Venky's took over. Players who are not quite midfielders, not quite wingers, not quite strikers, and thus fail to cement a position. Maybe it's just the state of the modern game churning out players like this. 

A bit of both there really imo.

Academy system churns out ten a penny types like this who probably should have been trained as full backs or something. Because they can get past a man they get made attacking midfielders in the hope they'll be worth a few quid eventually.  Yet they never get coached the art of real wing play because those positions are out of fashion.

Teams like us probably have a high turnover of these types because there's a few around and they just hope one will fit eventually. Managers rotating and messing around hoping to find one worth money to sell on. It's just one big cog keeps turning yet it affects the standard of football on offer to watch. Unbalanced and very little flair or crosses of any quality, then strikers suffer but it's ok because one of these bog standard types gets stuck in a no 10 position as well.

Robots with any individuality ground out of them when instead those sparks of flair should be the things they are encouraged on. 

Very hard situation and very hard market at the min for everyone so that's not his fault.

However this slow build which is a byword for just keep plodding and the wasting of a lot of money yet still leaving us scratching around in key positions is. It's the prime reason we as fans often moan and want pressure keeping on when everything seems ok.

Because in football you cannot stand still and you never take anything for granted as you do not know what's around the corner. And in this case it was lockdown, nobody saw that coming but it could easily have been something else though.

27 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Yeah we had him by then, he signed on 31st July but in classic Mowbray fashion "wasn't ready to play" the opening game.

Mulgrew started the game as captain, had an absolute stinker and 5 days after that he was bombed out to Wigan on deadline day, to make room for us to sign Cunningham.

Tosin made his debut in the second game of the season at Fulham after Mulgrew departed.

Mulgrew was definitely first choice when the season started, making even more of a mockery of Mowbrays "defenders are coming" quotes.

Absolute attack of over loyalty or just plain nostalgia but absolutely typical.

Tosin was like all the other TM signings brought in as back up to wait his turn. That might have ended up being behind Williams after the silly we'll just see if Mulgrew has got any better over summer experiment lead to that fall out.

Presume they'd said he'd get a run of games at some point so the rotation would probably have started anyway according to opposition. Once he'd bedded in to the Blackburn Rovers pecking order  way.

Whatever stop gap comes in this time i doubt will be as easy on the eye but if he can defend in a partnership he'll do. A decent steady keeper as well as - i'll whisper it - we might end up a bit stronger in the center.  God only knows what plans he has for the full backs though.

On 10/08/2020 at 17:44, RoversClitheroe said:

Did anyone ever try to take legal action?

Yeah the Trust & some of Jacks clan, amongst each other !!!  They weren't bothered.

Allegedly there was an out of court settlement between Vs & some part of the tantric ones mob, not sure if that was even real or just to pacify prying eyes. 

Fast becoming a myth, another the manager doesn't really know what to make of  but he's given him chances this season and player himself can't find any rythmn.

More comfortable a level below probably.

20 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

That article is silly. Why did we have those 2 as our transfer targets if our budget was less than their clubs would accept?I'm confused

Window dressing.

5 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

Graham was available on a free.

Read it back properly.

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Not necessarily disagreeing with much regarding Mowbray but Lambert would not have spent 15m on strengthening the team, not successfully anyway!

Hmm I wonder how much Graham was worth if he'd had to buy him after the initial loan ?

A fair chunk of that I reckon.

Good stuff from @JoeH very interesting and backs up what I've been saying for weeks.

Mowbray started the comparisons with that lot last time he was rooting for a set of excuses. However when you do and you get down to the nitty gritty it does him no favours at all.

Of course there's a possibility they'll fall away next season. There's also just as much chance we'll finish similar to each other again midway. Yet give them 5 mill in summer & a few luxury loans I'd back them to be way above us. Give us similar again and I don't expect much difference.

Says it all, they push we dawdle.

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

So you're for loans because they limit the financial damage our mediocre manager can do?

That's fair when you consider some of the money he's spent.

I'm agreeing with you on the expense just to finish midtable 

How many similar clubs would love the backing to pull in Downing, Tosin and the like ?

Reed last season.

All to underpin midtable stability. Shows how weak we are in other areas. 

3 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I've zero problem with loaning players - it's how the football pyramid operates (money talks, bullshit walks).

I have a massive problem with those loan players not being ones that put you over the top.

We, essentially, loaned Cunningham, Walton and Tosin to finish a comfortable midtable last year. That's an expensive, short term option that doesn't really benefit the club.

And 20k pwk Downing and the 12 million boys.

Some can rant all the want about mid range budget. Fact it it costs this club and its owners a hell of a lot of money just to achieve mediocrity comparitve to some others.

Yet it's almost celebrated annually because they've now been brainwashed with the little old Blackburn Rovers line.

We know who and what we but that has never stopped ambition. Why settle for punching your weight when you've proved beyond doubt you are capable of punching above it.

What we have is a management and running setup designed for the former because it's comfortable for them. We also have ownership with more than enough clout for the latter. Just too brainless or brainwashed to have a real stab at it.

Just carry on filling mediocre pockets 

Keeper isn't a spot you piss around with trying to get cheapies in and grow a players to sell. Yet that's been the mantra since Robinson was costing too much.

It needs solid investment then it can be left alone for a few years.  We still bare the hallmarks of being a vehicle for agents.

I fear we could end up getting really desperate for a keeper given the current climate.

Another Boro rookie now

Nice lad, fit straight in, friendly agents etc etc 

wow what an ambitious forward thinking set of guys we have in charge. Warnock hunts for a proper keeper meanwhile.....

45 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Bargain basement goal returns, top dollar prices. Excellent negotiating tactics.....

Marquee signings making a statement.

Clown tactics on the pitch.

43 minutes ago, Tom said:

So why did he keep playing him?

Most of us could tell throughout the season he was no good, his command of the box on crosses is decent and rarely dropped a cross but overall he’s poor 

He had the edge of Raya in that dept which is what was needed unfortunately lacked the cat like reflexes and had similar number of clangers and concentration lapses.

That was evident early on but it looked like he'd settled in well at one point so it was odd how he went right off the boil post lockdown.