They're both incredibly over-rated in my book but Rashford has earnt virtually Canonisation like status due to his activities off the pitch recently. As with Rovers under Mowbray, can't help but feel it doesn't really matter who's in the squad, we'll get nowhere under Southgate.

Bit odd to be criticising Warnock. They finished seven points better off than us, a swing of 17 points from the previous season when we finished ten points ahead of them and if memory serves me correctly he was brought in to save them.

Well, not by a specific date, just "at the end of the season". The information was from a seemingly reliable source, can't comment on whether it was incorrect in the first place, or something changed in the intervening period, or whether it's still on but has been delayed for whatever reason. Still waiting for your end of season report on Mowbray you promised us!

Nothing's changed. Talk about recruitment is almost irrelevant unless and until the manager and his staff are removed.

Would you? I don't think you've ever mentioned that before..........

Might be the season before the one you're on about but Martin Dahlin as well. £6m and never off the treatment table. That's one of the things that upset Sherwood so much apparently. Came in on quite a bit more money than him.

Just had a look at his wiki page he concedes that to his credit Jack Walker offered him the chance to resign with a full pay off rather than be sacked to protect his reputation as he (Roy) wasn't enjoying it. He admits now was too arrogant and refused as he thought he was doing nothing wrong at the time in terms of coaching the team and believed he could pull it round. This left Jack no chance but to sack him. (We were bottom at the time) I never knew any of that. Personally I've no doubt had he stayed we'd have gone down, probably with less points than under Kidd.

Yeah the bad form lasted from Christmas until he was sacked in or around October the following season. Managed to split the dressing room right down the middle between what was left of the 94/95 side who had previously done the business and most of his god awful signings. Wouldn't want him even if he was ten years younger and at 73 he's too old imo. Saw him on the touchline the other day and physically I thought he looked like he'd deteriorated a lot in the last eighteen months or so.

Can't wait for the minutes........

Probably.

I've never said "end of the month" specifically, just that the info was that it was intended to be a relatively dignified departure at the end of the season. I.e. my reading of that would be they probably wouldn't be potting him an hour after the season finished and that it would probably be expressed to be "by mutual consent" even if it wasn't. As regards Nixon's twitter feed, it wasn't Nixon who suggested it, someone has tweeted him speculating Mowbray'll be gone by the end of the month and Nixon has pooh poohed it saying only if Mowbray wants to leave as well. Could just be someone recycling what they've read on here.

Think he is, but he hasn't exactly been on the money with much Rovers related stuff in recent years has he? Note to self: I need to stop this, I'm descending into wishful thinking 🤔

Never thought I'd be grateful to be backed up by something off Nixon's feed but I'll take it. The fact he is casting doubt on it makes me feel a little more confident Lol. The bit about "end of the month" would tie in exactly with my original understanding about the timescale and a relatively dignified exit etc. Of course it could just be someone whose read this thread and is recycling the rumours on here! Anyone know who @ 1875 is?

So the bloody manager doesn't even know whether we have an option on the player? I hope Chapman stays and gets a chance under a new manager but otherwise he's better out of this farce. Mowbray has signed him twice and never given him a proper chance on either occasion.

Don't understand your post Parson, are you claiming the flak he is getting is unjustified, therefore he is doing a good job shielding the owners from it? Edit: Even if that's not exactly what you meant, get in a really good manager and a half decent CEO and we'll do a lot better than with Mowbray and Waggott irrespective of the owners. I thought you would also be pragmatic enough to realise that whilst we are losing the thick end of £20m p.a. having owners who are seemingly wealthy enough to cover it without batting an eyelid does have its advantages albeit we are where we are due to their poor decision making in the past. We are where we are and can't change what has happened in the past, that doesn't mean we have to be happy with it though and we can only try and influence things going forward.

No thanks. He was crap here when he was in his prime, or at least a lot nearer thereto.

I'm not a rugby fan at all but great post gumboots. Perhaps their CEO is on 600k p.a. we can't expect ours to come up with anything imaginative like that for only 300!

Wouldn't expect much activity from our end. Our "recruitment department" will be dusting off the usual excuses as we speak and adding a couple of new ones: "We did our best and have had offers in for players all summer but": - Agents demands excessive - Players demands not realistic in the post pandemic era - We thought we had a deal with a certain player but were beaten to it at the last minute by Club X coming in and offering him what he wanted" - "After we sold Adam, Clubs knew we had money and put a zero on the end of their price tag / Adam was sold too late in the window to bring anyone else in" - "Too difficult to sign players from abroad now we're not in the EU" - "The new head of recruitment didn't come in until close to the start of the season which made things difficult. - "We can see if there's anyone being made available on loan from PL Clubs at the last minute"

Not too dissimilar a situation to last season. A proper CEO would keep fans engaged. Last season it looked probable we weren't going to be able to attend and the Club needed a membership scheme at a nominal fee with some sort of gift, benefit or reward attached to keep people engaged signed up and on board. We could always have upgraded the membership to a ticket had the time arose. Instead we inexplicably waited until it looked like we DEFINITELY wouldn't be able to attend and then put prices up by up to 25% thereby reducing the season ticket base from just short of 10 k to a paltry 2.5k. This season it looks likely we will be let back in and it looks unlikely the demand for ST'S will massively out strip supply even at a quarter capacity. No harm whatsoever in putting them on sale on a first come first served basis. If the Government do a bottle job yet again and things go tits up on the relaxation of restrictions front it shouldn't be too onerous a task to decide what concessions people who have already bought season tickets should have. Waggott seriously worries me. If you wanted to plant a mole in the Club to deliberately get every decision wrong, run the Club completely into the ground and ultimately take it into administration you couldn't be doing a better job.

Just had a look on their website under the "over 80 Clubs sponsored" tab and couldn't find any mention of us on there.

And Wolves and Stoke fans. Lambert's qualities or lack thereof are irrelevant. I only cited him as an example of a Venky's appointment that looked decent at the time it was made. All we need to bother about now is that as at this moment Mowbray is still manager = not good.

Difficult to assess 1how "commercially excellent "it is when the Club haven't announced how much they'll be paying us for the privilege - if anything at all. Might just be a case of acquiring the kit for free and then fleecing the supporters as much as possible once again like you say. As for the designs themselves we'll have to wait and see. I actually liked last season's home shirt for the first time in a long while.

"In private" - who to? Had him round to dinner did you? 🙂

Think you're miles wide of the mark there Gav it obviously wasn't Waggott that shelved it was it?

Spot on. As I've posted previously I'm completely torn this time round. On the one hand I don't want to endorse the Coventrio. On the other the less people renew the more it gives Waggott carte blanche to run the Club even further into the ground. On balance I'm leaning towards renew and oppose.