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As you would say "sources"? Are you basing those names on any specific information or are you just plucking random names out of thin air off the betting lists? Edit: See you've replied to Miller. I wouldn't put too much store on what Nixon says.

Click bait. If you put enough of it out, some of it is bound to come to fruition.

Yep, well, if the next appointment bombs you'll be able to have your moment in the sun and tell us all (and me in particular) "I told you so".

I think it would be fairly risky to appoint Di Matteo given he hasn't managed since 2016. Yes QPR appear to have already made initial overtures to Manning. And we have done what? We haven't even got round to scrawling Tony's "Dear John" letter yet. Do we know next season starts early?

Like I said to Gav wouldn't be happy with the appointment (at all) but even so I doubt he could do much worse than Mowbray. You seem pretty quick to jump on this particular rumour but don't seem as keen to get excited about the Farke rumours or the fact that he is favourite in the betting......... Neither mean much at this stage of course.

I'm not doing or failing to do any job whatsoever for Venky's as you well know. Stop being mischievous. I wouldn't be happy with Cocu but he could hardly do any worse than Mowbray could he? "Here's £100 over the next 5 years, see if you can get us up to 11th"

O Rourke was completely wrong in January about Rothwell. Was talking absolute nonsense so I wouldn't expect the vague comment about Cocu being in the running to be any different. Can't be proved or disproved either way unless he's actually appointed.

In answer to the second paragraph, he's the one that makes the decisions on players coming in and out so he's the one responsible for paying Mulgrew £2m over 2 seasons to pay for Fleetwood, for paying the likes of Smallwood Hart and Gladwin not to play/or train with us, for giving Downing and Johnson new deals when they didn't warrant it, for giving numerous lucrative new deals to ageing or substastandard players such as Graham, Bennett and Evans etc. £5m for the useless Gallagher plus £20k p.w. and then an extended contract despite failing to impress. Another £20k p.w. for Ayala to generally sit in the treatment room. A Greek keeper who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth, 4 year deal for the useless Pears etc etc. But yes, you're absolutely right, it is the owners fault he has been allowed to carry on and on and on. It was obvious to me he wasn't up to it at this level relatively soon after our return to the Championship in Jan or Feb 2019.

If that did happen, it would be partly down to the state Mowbray has left us in anyway.

Spot on den. I pointed this out some years ago. All this talk of journeys and long term plans was to deflect away from the lack of obvious progress in the here and now and that we would all wake up some years later to find we were no better off than when we started. Well here we are. Mowbray has pulled the wool over everyone's eyes for long enough. Unbelievably some people still seem to be taken in by it all, worrying about what will happen when he leaves.

Haven't read through the accounts you posted but does the 2021 figure include the notional £16m cash injection for the transfer of the training ground? Without that losses for the 4 years would therefore have been £22.6, £21.9, £18.2 and £16.8 which is in line with what I've been saying. C £20m p.a.

The distinction between Mackay and Mowbray really couldn't be any starker though. One has burnt through £100m quid + of the owners money to get us absolutely nowhere and leave us with half a first X1 for next year. The other achieved far more on the pitch than the former did on I don't know, 1/50th of the budget? And then was moved aside because we had managed to land one of the greatest managers of all time. Don seemed to take it very badly at the time and seems to have harboured a simmering resentment about the way he was treated ever since. Nevertheless that's business and surely no-one can deny it was for the best. All the same he fully deserved the gratitude and recognition for his commendable performance on a financial shoestring. Mowbray?

100%.

Good grief, I can't believe Im reading that! As you know Nick, I have the utmost respect and admiration for the selfless work that you and your colleagues have put in for the last 12-18 months trying to point the Club gently in the right direction but I couldn't disagree more strongly with the above. Firstly Im not sure how anyone can say we're in a better place now than before Mowbray was appointed with the Club (or rather the owners) another £100m in debt and half the first team departing for nothing in the summer. Secondly he's acted like he's doing everyone a favour by being here in the latter part of his reign, and he is actually extremely lucky that the owners seem to have been of the view that a contract is a contract and that he's been allowed to see his out despite runs of desperately disappointing results season after season. So to praise his "devotion" is a bit of a stretch to put it mildly. Thirdly, and I think this is the most important point which I think everyone is completely missing, presumably Mowbray's contract ends on the usual date of 30th of June. The owners are under no obligation whatsoever to enter into contract negotiations at any minimum period prior to this date. Of course if they wanted him to stay but but left it until the day before his contract expired they'd run the risk of him getting fed up of waiting and having made alternative arrangements elsewhere but that's the risk they take. The point is even more pertinent when you consider that we only knew for absolute certain what our fate would be on Saturday evening. Of course the Club COULD have announced at the end of January he was leaving at the end of the season no matter what or COULD have given him a new contract back at the end of January when we were doing well. However I'm guessing that very few people would have wanted him to get a new deal if we missed out on the play offs, conversely the vast majority would have been in favour of him getting a new deal of some sort had he taken us up and those same people would have thought to announce his departure in January harsh in the extreme. I think waiting until our fate was clear was exactly the right and common sense thing to do and imo Mowbray has jumped the gun and pre-empted the Club to get everyone feeling sorry for him. (I've been told he's made the unilateral decision to retire anyway although how true that is I don't know) Imo he's played everyone, the owners, the supporters, and the media like an absolute fiddle.

Hope so. Would be interesting to see if he can get any sort of reaction but the ship has probably sailed for him in terms of getting the job full time.

Don't know but JFH would be such a left field and surprising appointment you'd have to guess at some agent influence somewhere. Just as TM seemed a totally random appointment at the time with no rhyme or reason to it but presumably Honeyman got him the gig.

I don't know when the contracts of the current coaching staff end. If they're all up (like Mowbray) that would be one less potential hurdle to overcome.

I'm sure Farke would be interested IF - The salary was tempting - The budget was workable - He could pick his own staff Whether those conditions could be met remains to be seen. The longer the Club delay the bog standard message of thanks to Mowbray for his service, the more nervous I'm getting.

Promotion? If you have a light bulb in your house and it stops working, do you sit there in the dark because you're worried if you buy a new one, that may not work either?

Great Post.

This shouldn't really be too difficult should it? The two outstanding candidates (Farke and Dyche) are out of work. There's no need to go trawling through a list of inferior candidates. All we need to do is to get our CEO to persuade them to come and negotiate the terms. Oh wait..........

It was his decision not to sign a back up striker in January and it was obvious if anything happened to BBD we'd be screwed as no-one else was scoring.

I'd be done if Mowbray stayed and I'd be done if Appleton was reappointed. I know the latter now has the same rosy managerial CV as Mowbray did when he was appointed of being out of work having jumped from a League One Club before he was pushed but nevertheless surely even Venky's wouldn't be crazy enough to reappoint someone they (rightly) fired off after just 67 days. I thought Appleton was terrible when he was here (will never forget the Millwall quarter final) and seemed a very unpleasant character to boot. Didn't he offer fans who were complaining out after one particular defeat? The only thing you'd say in his defence was that he was sacked after a run of five wins from fourteen games and Mowbray took us on a similar run (or worse) every season in the Championship and survived so Appleton might be forgiven for thinking "What's the difference?"

Lot of collective amnesia on here today, we're barely 24 hours on from an absolutely pitiful capitulation both in terms of yesterday's game and the second part of the season, and already people seem to have forgotten how poor the last four years have been. Even trying to make out "It wasn't that bad really." Yes it was. And he hasn't actually gone yet. I will refrain from popping open the bubbly until the Club have commented on his employment status and he has physically exited the building.