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1) Can't see any problem whatsoever with the interview. He will presumably have been aopproached by Sky not the other way round. We're not playing until a week on Saturday, so how's that going to affect his performance on the pitch? If he's wearing an advertising logo, again, so what? 2) Generally he hasn't been anywhere near peak fitness during his time at Ewood. 3) He played particularly well against Fulham and Spurs so don't see how he can be criticised for his performances this season.

Good grief

At that point the thread has really come full circle from the complaint in the original post. Wez and the Invisible Man, you may be ok guys in person and no-one really gives a flying one about what you do, wear, or drink as long as your actions don't annoy or endanger others. But listening to to 2 pound per hour chants at every single away game is irritating in the extreme. Singing songs like the Souness one will give Rovers fans as a whole a bad reputation. Picking on fans in the away section only distracts from what is happening on the pitch. More importantly if you carry on being wind up merchants everywhere you go sooner or later it could result in someone being seriously hurt. It might be you or it might just as easily be another Rovers fan innocently caught up in the crossfire. If you are determined to annoy everyone everywhere you go, you can't be surprised if you get a negative reaction. Just have a bit of consideration for others. Not too much to ask is it?

He's got you there flops, verbally outpointed by someone with the IQ of a chimpanzee

Much as I dislike Souness for what he did to us in the latter part of his reign singing that about someone who's had heart surgery is just sick.

Let's see if Souness can get a team with Parker, Shearer and Owen in it relegated.

Wez and the invisible man, I was sat behind some lads who post on here at Everton season before last and they were giving me and the people I was with some gip as a result of having had a few too many. The difference was when they sobered up they had the class to apologise for their behaviour both on here and in private via pm. You on the other hand seem to be revelling in and proud of ignorant behaviour. Big difference.

I'm sorry for everyone who was inconvenienced by idiotic behaviour on Saturday but this thread is worthy of messageboard gold status as a) An anthropological study b ) Being unintentionally hilarious "F*** off we're not drunken hooligan gangster wannabees. Most of us are 18+ and I'm actually 20." "F*** off we're not on the minimum wage. I earn 5.75 per hour." "I wouldn't be seen dead in a naff label like Aquascutum. I wear Stone Island." Priceless.

Talk Sport was claiming tonight that Michael Owen was at secret talks today at a location in Northumbria with Freddy Shepherd, Shepherd's son, Souness, Shearer and Dean Saunders. Not even fat Freddy would be daft enough to let Souness spend 18m on Owen and then sack him a few days after would he?.................

Just a couple of after thoughts from Saturday. I really really don't understand the Jansen situation. The only way to resolve this is for him to have half a dozen starts, this is the only way we'll be able to determine if he can still do a job. If he can't then assuming he's on a pay as you play type deal it's time to draw a line under it. It does us or him little good to have him permanently hanging round warming the bench (for which we presumably have to pay him) The other thing was I've rarely seen Savage so subdued on a football pich after two excellent games previously. Wonder if someone "had a word" after his 3 consecutive yellows? I think I'd rather have him giving it his all and running the risk of a yellow.

I've never understood why anyone would spend fifty and sixty quid and all day travelling to an away game and then not really watch it because they're too busy hurling insults at a section of opposition fans. Then again, having read this thread I'm not that surprised. Wouldn't you be better off just watching the game and trying to get behind the team on the basis of what happens on the pitch? The other thing is if you spend all afternoon winding up the opposition fans and or the stewards, you can hardly then act all surprised and hard done by if you get thrown out and /or foreign objects eventually start flying in your direction.

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That 17223 for Wigan v Sunderland must have been a small home crowd given Sunderland's likely following? All totally irrelevant however (apart from Gav sweating on his 50 quid. ) Of far more relevance is the fact Wigan recorded their first victory and we don't look capable of notching a goal until bellamy returns.

Just got back from watching it live on foreign TV etc. I'm almost too angry to type after that first half display, we simply didn't turn up, two yards slower to the ball - how the hell do you get over run in midfield with five men strung across the middle? Second half we still didn't play well but at least made a contest of it by competing. It wasn't like watching the same team as Wednesday, the players are taking the proverbial out of the fans already this season with their displays, excellent v Spurs, OK but rescued by two stunning goals v Fulham, couldn't be arsed turning up first half today and second half at West Ham. I had grown to expect these sort of showings under Souness but hoped they were a thing of the past under Hughes. No -one emerged with any credit today. From a technical viewpoint. - With the benefit of hind sight it would have been better to minimise the disruption to Wednesday's relatively successful formation by putting in Andy Taylor at right back and leaving Reid in midfield. Flitcroft was unspeakably bad. - Friedel sold himself completely for the goal, Todd had started to push Baros wide and if Brad had stayed on his line Baros would have had to produce a hell of a shot to beat him. As it was he got caught in no man's land gifting Baros an easy finish. If you come for the ball you've got to get it. - Even at this early stage we have to accept that the gamble on Kuqi hasn't and isn't going to work. The guy's commitment isn't in question but he's been so far off the pace in the opening 4 matches it's got to the point where it's embarrasing for the lad. Dickov is of a similar standard (plus the reds and yellows) So if it's not felt any of the other strikers on the books are the answer, then we have to bring someone else in, or face another 32 goal season. And we won't survive another of those. It's little wonder people won't come and watch us with either of those 2 up front. Not happy. And that's an understatement. Can almost start to understand the cricket is best viewpoint"

A point a game is relegation form.

The Ashes are on now, and they are far more exciting and engaging than a bunch of brats more concerned about their wages than winning trophies. 342073[/snapback] Don't disagree that the current test series is good stuff but it just seems to be one of those contests that comes around every 20 years or so that happens to be enthralling viewing like Botham's ashes in 1981 or the series before that in the 70's(can't recall the year) that was hijacked by activists. This series has combined two of the closest finishes ever with the emergence of Flintoff as a nationally recognisable Bothamesque figure, even to non cricket followers. Much test cricket is played out to a boring stalemate on a track as flat as a pancake or peters out to a draw as a result of weather interruptions. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the current cricket mania is a temporary fad and football for all it's many current faults is firmly back as number one by next summer's world cup.

After his display on Wednesday night it will not necessarily be a bad thing if Kuqi is unavailable. Maybe Jansen or Derbyshire can grab their chance.

Can't see us losing but can't see us scoring either. 0-0, another two winnable points going begging.

Oops well spotted! No wonder Owen doesn't want to commit himself there full time. GS had all summer to bring a striker in knowing full well Bellamy wasn't part of his plans. He's left it until the last minute after bringing in umpteen midfielders and now faces either missing out altogether or paying wildly over the odds for someone.

Just thought I'd drag this back up to the top, 180 minutes, no goals, one point. The sad thing is he'll probably get the chop before he can send them into terminal decline.

Fair do's, I was actually sat next to two Tottenham fans working in the Edgworth area and at the time they said they couldn't understand those decisions either. Unless they were frightened of me

The game ended as a spectacle when Neill was sent off after 77 mins. Up until then I thought we played extremely well, infinitely better than against Fulham. However I also thought it was heartbreaking to see us completely dominate possession against a very good side and fail to capitalise because we had nothing up front. A bit of quality up there and we'd have won comfortably. As for the sending off, watching the game live at full speed I thought the first yellow was extremely harsh, the second tackle a bit overenthusiastic and a marginal yellow, but that overall commonsense should have prevailed. Savage's yellow was a complete joke, he made a perfect tackle and took the ball as clean as a whistle. Despite that he earned his his third yellow in three games, when maybe only the one at West Ham was justified. Certainly in his case and with the team overall we seem to be suffering from a severe case of "give a dog a bad name" ( Didn't spot the alleged headbutt if true Todd deserves any censure going) Overall the game highlighted just how good we could be with some quality up front and the need for quality cover at right back and centre back given our disciplinary indiscretions.

Quote thenodrog: "Jack Walker allegedly had a sign over his desk with "Think Big" written on it. We should honour his memory by doing so." Agreed tnr, unfortunately the trustees don't seem to be falling over themselves to bring Michael Owen to Ewood Park! One of the main reasons for the decline in attendances isn't listed - "changing demographic makeup of the town" Lack of crowdpleasers is undoubtedly a factor, who wants to watch Dickov when you've been watching Duff? Not sure lack of success should be a reason though, if we had somehow managed to sneak into the top flight pre Jack we'd have had no more, in fact far less, chance of success than we have now. It seems people are starting to be slightly more picky with their fixtures which if you look back over the years is how attendances have been in the past 11-12,000 for low profile fixtures and 35,000 for Man Ure or Liverpool. It's only relatively recently that the home support has remained nearly identical throughout the season.

Crucial game, the result could set the tone for the season. When the fixtures came out I really thought we should have been looking at 7 points from the first 3 games. Win and it's a very good start. Draw and it's an average start and lose and it's a poor start given the fixtures. Desperately hoping for 3 points but think Spurs are finally a decent outfit under Jol. Reluctantly tending towards a draw, 1-1.

As long as the Premiership maintains a collective stance as at present then there's no partivcular reason why Rovers top flight tenure should be shortlived. All established sides should have a huge advantage over the 3 promoted clubs every year. If Clubs ever have to negotiate TV rights individually, that's when we'll really start to struggle.