For the information of the World Cup losers: It's called a dropped goal, not a field goal.

EVIL 17 GOOD 20 What more is there to say, except well played England, though it's a pity they didn't win by 20 points, which would have been a fairer reflection of the game. The silence from convictland is deafening though not unexpected. Ungracious in victory, churlish in defeat, their immaturity and inferiority complex has reached new heights during the rugby World Cup.

Story in tomorrow's papers saying the Rovers' English and Aussie players have been enjoying a bit of banter this week and will be glued to the telly for the match. To judge from some of the quotes, Neill sounds a real pain in the arse. I'm surprised he has so much to say the way he has been playing this season.

Which is why at school the ball players played football and the fat oafs played rugby. I wouldn't describe Jimbo as either fat or an oaf. a) becuase he's neither beacuse he's about 6 foot 9 tall So one assumes the Jim's have met and this is friendly banter ... On the contrary, I haven't got a clue who Jimbo is. It's just that I can't stand idiotic statements such as "rugby is alot more fun to play than football".

Which is why at school the ball players played football and the fat oafs played rugby. I thought the only sport when you were at school was Archery que?

Which is why at school the ball players played football and the fat oafs played rugby.

I'm surprised your'e NOT supporting the convicts. I thought you'd have some allegiance to the Bruce's and Sheila's no chance lonibom. born in england and although spending nearly 13 years in australia has never made me not support my home land in favour of the skips! p.s. lonibom a little less of the smart arse comments regarding bruces and sheilas ROVERS FOREVER Good for you Blueboy: a refreshing change from the other traitorous, turncoat ex-pats on here. Personally, I wouldn't support an Australian in a game of tiddlywinks. All we can hope for Saturday is that Good overcomes Evil. Everyone knows that God is an Englishman so I am sure he will be smiling on the glorious boys in white. Having said that, rugby really is a pile of doo-dah. After this tournament it will return to its rightful place on the inside sports pages while the national game reasserts its superiority.

Interesting to see that Crystal Palace gave Steve Kember the chop today after the club slipped to 20th place in the first division. Simon Jordan, the chairman, said that results had been unacceptable and he had to act before it was too late. Quite right too. How long do we have to wait before the Rovers board acts? After the Everton game, and another defeat? December? January? When? Souness's position is very close to becoming untenable now, but to wait too long for results to improve is inviting disaster. In my opinion, the club should tell Souness that he has three games to turn the situation round: if he does not, then he will have to go. Of course, Souness could tender his resignation before then, but I doubt if his pride and arrogance will allow him to do that.

Significantly, Souness stayed in the dressing room after the match because he was to "upset" to face the media, sending Tony Parkes instead. Hopefully, Souness has realised he can do no more for the team and will spend the next few days considering his future. In many ways, I feel sorry for him but football is harsh world and he must carry the can for his mistakes.

When was that, pray? I can't recall any. Instead of attacking personalities, why not address the issue? You will have the right to unopposed reply here, as this is well off topic now, so I won't respond again. I disagree with your views on Souness. I can live with that. However, it would have been refreshing if you could at least accept that the analogy you used in your post - which is what I have objected to, not your fundamental view - was not pleasant, and unjustified. You seem to pride yourself on being a man of great articulation but you fail to display any humility and you have a singular inability to be dignified at times, refusing to accept that a careless choice of words undermines your argument. And you let yourself down by always wanting to have the last word. Have you ever considered that you may be wrong on some issues? Perish the thought.

When was that, pray? I can't recall any. Instead of attacking personalities, why not address the issue?

That comment is in very very bad taste. Why? To liken a football club to a disease is particularly tactless. To liken cancer to our football club is particularly distasteful. For you to need to have the matter explained to you is very worrying. I disagree. A cancer can be described as a vice or other evil of an inveterate spreading kind, which sums up perfectly the influence that Souness is having at Rovers. Very disappointing to have to define this for you. Typical of GAV to make judgments on individuals rather than addressing the issues.

That comment is in very very bad taste. Why?

Who replaces him is irrelevant. There is a cancer in our stricken club and it needs cutting out before it kills the patient.

Time to lift and dust this thread. Does anyone now agree with me that the man has lost the plot and should leave the club? I jokingly predicted before the season that we might go down but I never seriously expected it to happen. As long as Souness remains at the club we are doomed. The players have lost confidence and no longer have any faith in the manager. The board should act now.

And another thing: Talking to some Leicester mates today, their collective state of mind is even worse than ours after five consecutive defeats and surrendering a three-goal lead to Wolves. If you think we are pulling our hair out at the moment, they are apoplectic at their team's form. Defeat for us in next Sunday's game really is unthinkable. By the way, we are now down to seventeenth after Middlesbrough gained a point from their draw at Tottenham today.

Another thought: ever since we were promoted Souness has said our priority is survival. Perhaps Rovers disappointed him by finishing tenth and sixth over the past two season when what he really wanted was a good old muck and nettles relegation fight. Well he certainly has got his wish now.

That's all right then. I can breathe alot easier now. Do you think we can still make the Champions League?

In six to eight weeks we could be marooned at the bottom and it will be too late for a change of direction. Clubs stuck at the bottom in December tend to stay there. Maybe I'm wrong and Souness will lead us out of trouble but I've got a feeling he will not. The team looks a mess tactically, confused and woefully lacking in confidence.

Sacking the manager may not always work but when the said manager has precipitated the present crisis through poor transfer dealings and mystifying tactics, and shows no sign of finding a solution, how long do we have to wait before either he resigns or the board finally acts? Rovers are now in the bottom five, one point below the much-derided Wolves, and unless we start to pick up points soon we will be rock bottom of the table, never mind in the relegation places. Perhaps when we finally hit the bottom Souness will offer his resignation. On present form, that will be sooner rather than later.

Absolutely spot on - and there lies, IMO, the reason why we're struggling so badly. Maybe they're told to constantly cut in all the time? Either way they're offering little to the team at the moment. If you are to play 5 across the middle then at least one of them should stop out wide? Has Souness resigned in shame tonight? And if he has not, does the board have the guts to sack him, which they should have done weeks ago? If anyone were in any doubt, we now in the midst of a full-blown crisis.

I wonder what sort of lucrative deal Jason negotiated with the LET (assuming he did not join the union and therefore is not being paid the going rate). I head from a good source that Revidge was on a nice little screw of £100,000 plus company car and all expenses paid executive seats at home and away matches. Jason should not have accepted anything less.

Good luck in your new "job" at the LET Jason. Have you joined the NUJ yet?

Funny you should mention that... My local bus company is seeking part-time drivers, I applied for a job last week and the interview is next Tuesday. Bit of a comedown after I didn't get the gravediggers job I had set my heart on but beggars can't be choosers.

Well there's a cheery note to end the day. Recently moved house and discovered my old ELO tapes. Played them on the 8-track in my Ford Capri the other day: "Mr Blue Sky"....absolutely marvellous.