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I thought most of what you posted was recounting what he had said. You again stated your opinion that he wasn’t to blame for the errors, but were happy he’d taken responsibility. I agree to a point and believe he is pissed off and will tighten things up so it doesn’t happen again. I think you’ve been pretty realistic on your assessment on the window. It’s been poor but could easily have been good if we’d not sabotaged ourselves. Lack of a centre forward is a big error though, and I’m probably less happy that you that it wasn’t a huge priority.

Yep. I was and was interested to see your take after Broughton’s interview. Not for a long time, but I’ve worked nights in the past. I’d always struggle with my sleep patterns so you have my sympathy.

If Venky’s pull the plug they kiss it goodbye. The only chance they have of recouping their money is to either turn is into a massively profitable club - that involves promotion and a whole host of other miracles. Or they could find someone daft enough to pay them back what they have put in to buy us. Presently they have a football club worth on paper £200 million, in reality they have a black hole that needs money throwing in it every so often. At some point they will have to write off their “investment”. If the subsidies are stopping, the sooner they go the better.

You’ve got to expect a bit of pedantry on official paperwork though. Thats a very odd question if it’s for identification purposes. I don’t know why nationality would be in there. I think Glen nails it above. We can’t presume Nixon’s supplied reasons are the complete story.

They are playing a propaganda masterclass today in fairness.

I don’t see any chance with the O’Brien. We made errors. Where do you draw the line with leniency? Brierley should be a very different matter though. That looks like an equality monitoring question and there’d be an easily winnable argument and an infinite amount of precedent to suggest that ticking that box cannot be mandatory.

This must be the longest Chaddy has gone without posting (apart from when he’s been on a ban).

Makes no difference. Would you have felt for Tayo Edun if we’d loaned him out in the January after we signed him?

I’m sorry, but the “we’d do a Bury” argument really pisses me off. It’s so lazy, in no way are Blackburn Rovers and Bury, or their situations in any way comparable. Why couldn’t we be the next Leicester, Leeds, Crystal Palace or Southampton? They make for far better comparisons.

Come off it. There’s some serious deflection going on here. It’s not Forest’s fault the lad is in limbo. If we got promoted and cleared the decks, replaced the lads who got us there with better, and splashed the cash it’d be all “no room for sentiment”. Can anyone honestly say they gave Duncan Shearer a second thought when Alan was banging them in?

Stick round for a bit mate! Good to see you back.

I rolled my eyes when the first thing he said when talking about blame was “don’t blame the owners”. That’s a well rehearsed line at Ewood. You can see what he’s been tasked with here: - Placate the fans - Cover our arses - Make sure the owners don’t get any on them

I expect there are people/person very relieved Greg has taken a bullet for them. I think he’s right with a lot of what he says, ultimately it is his responsibility to get deals over the line. Although he’s come out and fronted it up, I still get the impression there is very much a siege mentality at Rovers. This is damage limitation and these responses will have been very clearly planned out and agreed between all the senior people with the aim of placating the fans, or at least dampening a bit of the backlash. He told us to judge him on his actions and not his words after the last window, so he’s putting a great big blot in his own copybook here. He’s new enough and came with enough good will to take one for the team.

“I’d rather be clear, I’ll give lots of information before a window, I’ll have open and honest conversations after the window, but during the window we’re doing our business and supporters will learn to put some faith and trust in us. “Should that faith and trust come when they don’t know how we work? No. That has to be earned. “The only way to do that is to back up your words with actions and hopefully we’re beginning to be able to demonstrate that now.” G. Broughton, October 2022. Lets hear it the Greg.

They could’ve told Rob Coar to dust off his FA tie and rolled him out for a one off.

We don’t always agree, but that’s a cracking email 👍

As a member of the Supporters Trust Board, I’ll answer this… The Trust is a different entity to the action group. I was a member of both, as was Glen, who acted as the Trust Secretary for many years and is still a valued member. The Trust is a little bit different in the way that it’s structured and registered. We are legally a Trust, rather than a group, and are open to anyone aged 18 or over. We are a registered Co-operative and Community Benefit Society regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and operate on a one member, one vote basis. We have an elected board and a membership of over 1,000. Our main objective will always be to push for supporter involvement and influence within the club. There’s some more detail here… https://www.roverstrust.com/faqs/ The direction we take is really driven by what our membership mandates. We do have regular meetings with the club, and have two scheduled this month around the fan led review into football governance, and another with the marketing department on ticket offerings and price, general marketing, and engagement with fans.

Maybe those fans think we deserve a better run club.

Paul “two degrees” Fielder would take exception. He loved telling us how he was the most qualified person at the club!

Slight aside, but Rovers were pretty stringent with their own deadlines. Refusal to honour early bird prices a day after cutoff.

Very good point. If it’s already been rejected we’ve no chance. If no decision had been made either way until now there’s hope.

If we know we’ve made errors in the paperwork the appeal seems a bit desperate. But nothing lost, and worst case scenario - the deal doesn’t go through, but plenty of the fans who were previously in uproar will now absolve the club of any blame and direct all their ire to the evil EFL.

Surely the only grounds we could win this appeal on would be by proving that all relevant documentation was submitted complete and on time. If there was anything missing, or it was late, we are asking the EFL to make an exception to the rules, which they surely can’t, regardless of how trivial we might claim any omission to be. From the limited info we have I can’t see this getting the green light.

Obviously our attendances rose in Jack’s time and peaked at the time of our greatest success. There were fluctuations over the following years, largely depending on the pricing. You’d be mad not to expect some drop off when we were relegated from the Premier League, but not to the extent we saw. Back to the point I made in the earlier post the hardcore or core support should’ve grown. It’s crazy to presume that the 10-15k we’d grown the fanbase by during the Walker years were all flighty, fairweather spectators there for a day out, who’d simply stop bothering once Ipswich were coming to town instead of Man Utd. As I said before, there is only one comparable “off a cliff moment” in our history. 1960. See the fairly crude graphs below! What we have now isn’t a natural level, it’s a fanbase that has been battered down by poor ownership decisions and a badly run club. There are a large number of supporters who are still engaged enough to care deeply about the club who don’t attend games for a multitude of reasons. Price is a big one, obviously, but there are plenty of people on this forum who aren’t priced out but have made a conscious decision not to attend. They still care enough to come on here and be furious about our transfer ineptitude, analyse our performances, and discuss all things Rovers with fellow fans. And there’s lots more in the wider world. You could argue that in the 80s pretty much anyone who was really interested would go to games. It’s not the case now. There’s a hell of a lot more the club need to be doing to re-engage the existing supporter base, and that’s before we start talking about attempts to grow it.

Obviously yes. Don’t know which individual is ultimately responsible but they need removing from their post.