8 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

A couple to go with here: eyes not looking at interviewer and moving constantly = both unsure & telling fibs  and at 4.20 min when the 'houses' topic first appears (houses = cash) lip licking = hmmmm tasty, I'll have a piece of that.

I could go on and be more academic about it but why bother. A spiv is a spiv.

I would share your thoughts!

4 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

What's the 7/11 rule?

Always been a great believer in first impressions!

When I meet someone, I usually form an opinion of them very quickly - within 30 seconds.  To a degree it's 'gut feel' but in reality, it has rarely let me down!

The 7/11 rule is similar but quicker!  The theory / rule is that within 7 seconds you will form up to 11 impressions of someone including desirability (likeability), credibility, trustworthiness, believability, sophistication, competence etc.

Once heard an American speaker on the subject and he reckoned some 80% of Americans form a first impression of somebody within seconds before they even speak!

It's fascinating stuff and in the cold light of day, pretty sure many of us can relate to it!

IMO, utterly unconvincing.

Have come across him on a couple of occasions and was completely underwhelmed.  

I'm a great believer in the 7/11 rule and I don't think it let me down!

I wouldn't trust this guy as far as I could spit.

24 minutes ago, matt83 said:

As a side note what’s his accent? I find it highly irritating. 

Definitely some 'Geordie' in there. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Still 80% that he isnt manager by 3pm tomorrow?

You never know!  Wasn't Kean sacked on the way to an away fixture on a Friday afternoon?

I think there's been quite a bit of 'activity' since Wednesday's match finished.  Posts from @Bbrovers2288suggest the same.

2 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

What I’m hearing is venkys aren’t too chuffed, would like a change in direction with regards to management but wagshit has told them if Tony goes so do I. They don’t have a contact in England ready to step into that role and they can’t run club from India so they have been stuck trying to sort that out. Don’t believe that will change until the summer unless something suddenly becomes available, waggot can be talked round to potting his mate or things get so dire they are willing to risk it. They are not currently sounding out replacements for that scenario. 
both mowbray and maggot don’t expect to be here start of next season , hence both have become a bit arsey. 
Is the current state of play. Without corona , I believe he would already have gone 

Simple.

Let Waggott go and Cheston holds the fort.

IMO, things are happening.

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

If I could find a bet on Mowbray NOT being in charge on Saturday then I would wager.

I think there is something brewing - as I posted earlier, 80% confidence in that.

14 minutes ago, WIR Second Coming said:

Here ye go... from 2.40 in - ruddy glorious!!

 

That just gave me goosebumps!!!

We are feckin Blackburn Rovers Mowbray not tiny Teeside tits.

IF Mowbray is still in charge on Saturday, you can safely put your house on a Rovers' win.

Then we will get the soundbites:

• 'It's nice to be up and running again'
• 'I said to the lads, just keep believing'
• 'Let's see where this win takes us'

Again, IF Mowbray is still here, I guarantee we will have a storming end to the season and then it will be about what we'd have done without the injuries.

However, I think Mowbray's termination is being negotiated now.  I'd put it as high as 80%.

6 minutes ago, Roverall said:

Well I think I could've told you the atmosphere would've been tense without your insider's hushed communique, riveting as it was. 

Now can you please recommend a bog-standard, overpriced, sulphite laden, paint-stripping merlot - screw cap, no uncorking necessary - that I can degrade myself with in salute to ten years of Venky's? 

 

Vinecrafter Merlot - stocked by Whalley wines, about £7/bottle.

Not a Merlot fan but wife keeps a couple of bottles handy for cooking purposes - very fruity nose and palate.  Always handy for the 'quaffers'!

Just now, Roverall said:

It felt strange. No offence but what in the name of God is that supposed to mean? 

FFS - have you never walked into either a domestic or work situation and not sensed an atmosphere or tension about the place!

They don't crayon pictures on walls!

11 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Please stop with the fantasy bullshit. It's tiresome. You know as much as anyone else. Nowt. 

I don't pretend to.

Told by someone in the ground it all felt a bit strange after the match.  Fantasy, no, bullsh1t, no, someone's (whose judgement I trust) perception, yes.

9 minutes ago, Rogerb said:

You don't honestly think Mrs Desai is getting up in the middle of the night to deal with this

No I don't.

But if Waggott is at his desk at 9.00 am tomorrow, it will be 3.00pm in Pune!

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Knowing the players are capable of that makes our current level of performance even more unacceptable. It's not like they're terrible players that can't do it.

Knew the usual sort of "How can we possibly expect to compete with Watford" line would be trotted out if we lost tonight.

What about our record since the srat of December? That must be horrific. I'll look it up later.

Played 17, 17 points, lost 9!

22 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Wishful thinking it may be  but I think he won't be around on Saturday....

I think something happened or was happening tonight - seemed a very strange post match hour at Ewood.

Pune six hours ahead.

Let's hope Waggott's getting sign-off for Mowbray's exit tomorrow morning. 

He just might have gone.....................

Told local journos in a tizzy!

Match finished almost an hour ago and nothing from Tony yet!

With a bit of luck, he's in a taxi for Teeside!

Just now, Gav said:

First poor game he's had, stood behind a defence with more leaks than my shed roof.

 

 

 

Come on Gavv, he's been pushing his luck in many games recently and got away with it.  Tonight, he got caught out.

1 minute ago, Tormund said:

All of those points not helped by the way everything is going at the moment. 

and those points precisely why "the way everything is going at the moment". 

Share the views of some others - looks like a narrow defeat for battling Tony.  Think 2-5 would have been about right.

Some serious worries besides our manager:

• Kaminski: becoming increasingly idiosyncratic and perhaps we are now seeing why Ghent let him go
• Travis: a shadow of his former self.  Now looking a League 2 player
• Dack: not helped by Mowbray shunting him out left but, IMO, increasingly think he's finished as each game goes by

Make no mistake, as a club, think we are in a real mess from top to bottom - a bigger mess than I feared.

18 minutes ago, J*B said:

Which wine would you recommend for me to forget all about this @Mercer?

Think we might just pull this one out of the fire!

Great finish from Harvey but woeful Watford mistake.

Cheap (price), cheerful and decent wine (ideal for watching Rovers when depressed) - try the Coop's Casablanca Pinot Noir at about £7.  

Think there's something going on with Mowbray.

Think he would have been telling the world if he'd had input into the Brockhall plans.

Body language, petulance, IMO, says it all.

Perhaps the end is in sight.

If you have a spare tenner, I'd put it on Alex Neil as next Rovers' manager - wouldn't be my choice but the whisper isn't going away.

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

 

Going off on a tangent there. I dont want Mowbray or Waggott to remain in their jobs but I stop short of blaming him for things he isnt responsible for. You are saying that Mowbray is directly, personally responsible for us having no choice but to sell half of the current training facilities for not having achieved promotion in his first 4 years?

 

Just where the feck do I say that?

Will you stop misquoting / misinterpreting me.

The point I made is that by not achieving our goal to get back to the PL, the effect on our finances is huge.

Mowbray has to be personally responsible for results on the field of play.

I would think the ultimate decision to downsize our training facilities and realise part thereof is down to the owners.

And yes we do have a choice.  Sell some players - they are replaceable, the STC when houses are built on it isn't!

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

 

The club haemorrhaging money is not Mowbrays responsibility, even if money he has spent on transfer fees under him may have not helped that, the manager is given funds by the owners to whom are responsible for the financial side of things.

It is not reasonable to suggest that Mowbray can be directly blamed for any collateral damage caused even based on an assumption that the club had to achieve promotion within his first 4 years to avoid having to start selling off the training ground to compensate. If that is the case, which is a huge assumption, then that falls on the owners, not Mowbray. I would also question how likely it should have been deemed to necessarily get promoted in that time frame anyway.

My problem with the manager is that although I feel that he has done a good job, he cannot further us and his tactics/subs/transfers etc are not pushing us forward any more, and I feel that we are starting to go backwards slightly. I want Mowbray gone because I dont think he can convert us into promotion challengers, not because he has failed to get us into the Premier League by now.

That isnt his responsibility though, people including me are understandably frustrated by the on field situation and are just blaming him for everything, but that falls on the owners. Do we think Mowbray spoke to the owners and suggested selling off half of the training facilities to build houses?

If it came out prior that if we lose then he goes, then maybe I could sort of understand, even though it would go against my instinct, I would be able to empathise. As it is, it seems certain that he will remain regardless, so we may as well hope for the team to win.

 

I think Mowbray's responsibility is to get success on the field and this comes through immaginative and successful  player trading, organisation, motivation, coaching, tactics and game management.  If he had got that right then I think we would have been back in the PL or getting there this season.

If the football manager isn't successful, the club won't be successful and there will be financial struggles.

I think the bottom line is our owners have 'lost' getting on for £200million because none of the club's CEO's or football managers they have appointed have cut the mustard.

In the days of Bob Lord, Burnley sold a player a season in order to survive and thrive.

Who have we got who would bring in £10, £15 or £20million.

Brereton and Gallagher who Mowbray signed wouldn't - it would, IMO, be chicken shit in comparison to some £12million in fees we shelled out.  I remember Mowbray's words about Brereton at Blues in Feb 2019, something like 'there's a lad who'll be worth £15, £20million in the future'.  Well if he'd got it right, I think it's pretty certain we wouldn't be looking to part sell / downsize Brockhall.

I think we have one saleable player asset (biggish money) and that's Armstrong.

The buck stops with the Football Manager and the CEO and, IMO, neither Waggott or Mowbray have delivered and that's why the club is, IMO, in one big mess.  

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I never said that he is thick, I just am content with criticising him for what I perceive to be an on field stagnation, confusing tactics, poor transfers etc, rather than getting too worked up with how he acts on the touchline, what he says in his interviews or indeed in your case, based on conspiracy theories dreamt up about what set of events may have played out prior to the owners selling part of the training ground.

There you go again.

Please when referencing me do not make such false claims.  By all means quote me but do not throw sh1t at me.

Brockhall - cause, club haemorrhaging money, why, failure to get back to PL, effect partial realisation of club assets with cost reduction.