Venky’s (& Suhail) Out Protest Ideas

[Mattyblue]

Why shouldn’t fans of a club that has spent most of the last decade *one* division below the Premier League have at least an ambition to have a go at getting into it? That’s kind of the point of professional football, no?

 

[RoversClitheroe]

I worry for the people on the other forum.

Don't think they get it 

[den]

Demonstrations?  Live Demo’s are fairly rare across the footballing world. 
 

The fans here have been demonstrating with their feet for 15 years now. When the owners tell the fans groups that it’s only a minority that are unhappy, push that to them. If a demo can be organised then great but if not don’t give up the argument that the owners are driving the fans away because the evidence is there right in front of them.

[Mattyblue]

We have a very odd fanbase when it comes to belittling the status of Blackburn Rovers.

I think it’s largely through circumstance, i.e a lot of the fans that were around in the 70s/80s see us as small time as the club was often hand to mouth, of course, those that only remember Venky’s and their downsizing also see us as small time.

Ergo it’s Jack’s/the Walkers club that is the aberration, not that Jack built a club to be bigger than the 70s/80s, just like football now is across the country. Nobody else harks back to ‘well, we had crap gates in the 80s too, that’s our level’… so did fecking everybody! The game was on it’s arse.

Edited 6 hours ago by Mattyblue

[TheKitGuy]

Have to ask yourself this, Say in 15 years time some of the clubs in the premier league face what we have. Would the likes of Brighton/Bournemouth and Palace fans be saying oh it was just a golden era we are back where we belong as they try and avoid a 2nd spell in the 3rd tier in 10 years or would they be saying, We had a club that was built from the ground up - we should be aiming to be in the top flight etc. etc. 

We have an extremely bizarre fanbase who are so split when they should be united for a single cause.

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2 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said:

Have to ask yourself this, Say in 15 years time some of the clubs in the premier league face what we have. Would the likes of Brighton/Bournemouth and Palace fans be saying oh it was just a golden era we are back where we belong as they try and avoid a 2nd spell in the 3rd tier in 10 years or would they be saying, We had a club that was built from the ground up - we should be aiming to be in the top flight etc. etc. 

We have an extremely bizarre fanbase who are so split when they should be united for a single cause.

I fear that aside from the Venkys the division in fans will be the downfall. 

[JHRover]

Yeah it is definitely circumstance. Because the Walker revolution so drastically and suddenly changed the whole scale and direction of the club so much it is very easy to 'compartmentalise' our recent history into 3 distinct clear periods.

Pre-Walker (everything up to 1991), Walker (1990-2010) and Venkys (since 2010). 

Because things have been so horrific over the last 15 years there seems to be an eagerness among some to treat the middle period as an aberration and normalise what has been going on here over recent years as merely a return to normal service.

I do, unfortunately, think a part of it comes from the attitude of those who were supporting the club in the 70s and 80s when it wasn't all PL and success, and some of those people get a kick out of reminding the younger end or those who started following in the good times that the 70s and 80s version is the 'true Rovers' and they are the 'true supporters' for having experienced those times not just the good times. Quite weird in my book but I'm convinced it is there as a factor.

Oddly those people don't want to talk about the decades before that. 

It is probably the equivalent of Spurs fans reminiscing about the days they were a non-league side in the early 1900s or perhaps more like Ipswich fans saying that they belong in the bottom division because that's all they were before Alf Ramsey turned up.

But yeah, if we'd have had say a fit and proper owner buy the club in 2010, but gradually declined from the PL into the Championship over a number of years, and then they'd have sold up to Venkys in 2020 and they'd have wrecked the club a decade later than they did, I suspect less would be willing to tolerate what is happening here. But because it has been going on now for so long, and there was a straight jump from Walker Trust regime to Venky regime, they can just box off the 1991-2011 period as a blip.

I'm sure the numpties on that other forum will quite happy with things as they sit in an 80% empty stadium and insist they have it right and everyone else is wrong, and presumably all of them will be renewing when we go down to League One because the club and players need their support. 

[TugaysMarlboro]

3 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I worry for the people on the other forum.

Don't think they get it 

I wouldn’t waste your time. There’s a lot of bitterness and I think a few of them have been lacking human touch for quite some time.

Edited 3 hours ago by TugaysMarlboro

[wilsdenrover]

17 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

I wouldn’t waste your time. There’s a lot of bitterness and I think a few of them have been lacking human touch for quite some time.

They seem the sort to prefer their own touch. 

[Tomphil2]

The 10th most successful club in England.

The 12th most prominent club in England in the all time Top Flight league table, amazing considering we've not been in it for nearly 14 years.

But we belong with the medium sized clubs who don't feature on any o those lists ?

It's not entitlement and it's not unrealistic to expect a billionaire owned club to retain its ambition and expect them to try their hardest to put us back to where they pulled us from.

That clearly hasn't been the aim for a long time so to assume fans should be happy just trying to tread water - whilst the club provides big wages/bonuses and career/ego platforms to a few people in the middle - is wrong.

[Upside Down]

10 hours ago, Tom said:

Leave em to it, they can have their safe haven and their ‘immigrant watch’ thread, I didn’t know the place still existed to be honest but it’s interesting to know that the consensus there is different.

Seeing a lot of mixed opinions elsewhere on social media etc which makes me think we’ll never have a fanbase almost unanimously behind any movement, in fact I’m almost convinced some would love any protest to fail just to stick it to the ‘other side’ 

I didn't see they had a thread like that but that explains the brain dead nature of the rest of the opinions on there. 

Fucking cretins.