v Accrington Stanley (a) - 12/7/25 - Friendly

[chaddyrovers]

27 minutes ago, Tom said:

Sounds like he didn’t beat the defender there then 😜

He did the Stanley defender was around 6 yards out from the goal

[Forever Blue]

2 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Nope just you refusing to accept he didn't to try and get over the disappointment of him wanting to go.

It's ok i understand, hate the player as the club want you to.

Bizarre. Have another read of the managers quotes where he says Brittain refused to play. Or just carry on with your weird conspiracy theories.  Up to you👍

[Tomphil2]

6 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Bizarre. Have another read of the managers quotes where he says Brittain refused to play. Or just carry on with your weird conspiracy theories.  Up to you👍

The only thing weird is you getting yourself flustered over it and your obsession with running around calling everything you don't agree with a conspiracy theory.

Or 'cause and correlation'.

They have inquests to establish those facts it isn't a difference of opinion defence mechanism.

[wilsdenrover]

9 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Nope just you refusing to accept he didn't to try and get over the disappointment of him wanting to go.

It's ok i understand, hate the player as the club want you to.

I read Ismael saying ‘Callum decided not to play today on his own’ as Brittain refused to play.

Ismael then went onto to say ‘…I said we can let this game pass…’ I took this as him meaning he’s let him off this once but won’t do so again

 

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Nope just you refusing to accept he didn't to try and get over the disappointment of him wanting to go.

It's ok i understand, hate the player as the club want you to.

Suggest you read Ismael's comments cos Brittain didnt want to play in this game and Brittain made that decision on his own

[Forever Blue]

8 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

The only thing weird is you getting yourself flustered over it and your obsession with running around calling everything you don't agree with a conspiracy theory.

Or 'cause and correlation'.

They have inquests to establish those facts it isn't a difference of opinion defence mechanism.

He refused to play. Read the quotes again. You’re making yourself look silly. 

[Exiled_Rover]

20 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He was playing right back today.

He's played RB a few times for us - he's clearly not a RB. He's a CM (and probably not good enough to play there at this level).

[Tomphil2]

5 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

He refused to play. Read the quotes again. You’re making yourself look silly. 

Cause and correlation ? 😉

[Tomphil2]

14 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I read Ismael saying ‘Callum decided not to play today on his own’ as Brittain refused to play.

Ismael then went onto to say ‘…I said we can let this game pass…’ I took this as him meaning he’s let him off this once but won’t do so again

 

'Decided' to me suggests there was a choice and refusal imo would be if he was told you're selected and we expect you to play.

Either way i refuse to play the blame/hate the player game narrative that is being pushed from one stupid tweet and it was only that tweeter who brought up the refused comment.

I fully understand the situation and couldn't care less about what would have been a 45 min kickabout for him at Accrington. Ismael also went on to say the club have to think about the financials which also implies he was never going to be forced to play it was always going to be up to him.

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

'Decided' to me suggests there was a choice and refusal imo would be if he was told you're selected and we expect you to play.

Either way i refuse to play the blame/hate the player game narrative that is being pushed from one stupid tweet and it was only that tweeter who brought up the refused comment.

I fully understand the situation and couldn't care less about what would have been a 45 min kickabout for him at Accrington. Ismael also went on to say the club have to think about the financials which also implies he was never going to be forced to play it was always going to be up to him.

But ‘decided  on his own’ suggests he didn’t give Ismael a choice.

To be clear, I blame the club for the whole situation - I’m merely adding my interpretation to the discussion. 
 

[Tomphil2]

1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said:

But ‘decided  on his own’ suggests he didn’t give Ismael a choice.

To be clear, I blame the club for the whole situation - I’m merely adding my interpretation to the discussion. 
 

Or it could equally be interpreted as it was left up to him he wasn't told he'd be forced to play or anyone was expecting him to.

I'll stand by my opinion i don't think at any point hes made a pointblank refusal to play which is the way some are portraying it and i'm amazed so many are using it as a stick to beat him with it's not an unusual situation at all.

The most important thing to that lad now is his career not a blue and white shirt in a friendly, hard as that is to swallow for some fans.  For all he we know he probably thinks why didn't you reward me with a new contract 6 months ago so why should i risk it all now for one half a game ?

I think the choice of club probably plays a part in peoples reactions because on the face of it it's a massive sideways step. I reckon if a bigger profile outfit who expect to finish in the top few had come in most would be saying yeah fully understand it he's got a big move.

Anyway at least it isn't Derby....yet !

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, Tomphil2 said:

Or it could equally be interpreted as it was left up to him he wasn't told he'd be forced to play or anyone was expecting him to.

I'll stand by my opinion i don't think at any point hes made a pointblank refusal to play which is the way some are portraying it and i'm amazed so many are using it as a stick to beat him with it's not an unusual situation at all.

The most important thing to that lad now is his career not a blue and white shirt in a friendly, hard as that is to swallow for some fans.  For all he we know he probably thinks why didn't you reward me with a new contract 6 months ago so why should i risk it all now for one half a game ?

I think the choice of club probably plays a part in peoples reactions because on the face of it it's a massive sideways step. I reckon if a bigger profile outfit who expect to finish in the top few had come in most would be saying yeah fully understand it he's got a big move.

Anyway at least it isn't Derby....yet !

I disagree with your interpretation but as English is the manager’s second language I guess it’s not completely implausible. 

The bit I’ve emboldened gives an example of why I’ve said I blame the club.

It is their ineptitude and mismanagement of this (and many other) situations which have led us to this point.

[chaddyrovers]

43 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

'Decided' to me suggests there was a choice and refusal imo would be if he was told you're selected and we expect you to play.

Either way i refuse to play the blame/hate the player game narrative that is being pushed from one stupid tweet and it was only that tweeter who brought up the refused comment.

I fully understand the situation and couldn't care less about what would have been a 45 min kickabout for him at Accrington. Ismael also went on to say the club have to think about the financials which also implies he was never going to be forced to play it was always going to be up to him.

Which is exactly the same thing 

Trying to alter the wording doesn't make any difference to the actual reality that Brittain decided/refusal from playing in this friendly. 

He would have got 60 mins like the rest of starting 11 apart from Carter who went off with cramp 

[Upside Down]

On 14/07/2025 at 03:10, Hasta said:

Gestede can’t comment on it in the next Fans Forum meeting. Doing it in a friendly is one thing, doing it in January when we are chasing promotion is something else.

This club has never been chasing promotion under venkys