Am I one of the few people who doesn't feel this is a good move or are there more out there? Not that I don't like Savage or think he is a good player, I just don't feel he is the player that we need. If he does eventually end up signing for us then fair enough and he will get my backing. Who else could we go for I'm not sure yet, but I still have reservations about Savage.

Believe what you want on that Scotty but try telling the Cardiff players and fans that. The Scalp of a Premiership and English side - nothing better for them at the moment and building upon there recent revival could go along way to building their confidence for the rest of the season. We could easily be one of the 'big boy' scalps taken considering our previous non-cup campaigns , however, even though I think it will be tough I still fancy us to win comfortably 2 or 3 nil.

I'm with Tris on this and think people are missing an important factor - to what level would this apply too? Although the consequential differences are enormous - in prinicpal they are the same. Yet again though questions are being asked how come not one of the so called officials could see what happened. Personally I agree with the 4 linesmen idea and and although I am against briniging in too much technology for decisions, except maybe on the communication side for all officials to be able to contact/mike up in an instant. You get some - you lose some that is all part and parcel of the game - however improvement could be made simply by getting players acceptance of refs decisions and the refs being on the same level in their interpretation of rules that are better defined than what they are now.

Eh? The consensus on here is that our small squad of 'Hughes approved' relegation threatened players is looking overplayed and jaded. So why do you advocate that we need more games to tire them out further and risk injuries? Don't mean just to the players TND Who mentioned anything about tiring them out ? - a couple of nip and tucks with those on the fringe which could give the experience to them that so many say they haven't got. Injuries can happen at any time so why worry about them - especially in training where most seem to happen anyway nowadays -don't see people saying thay must stop training. In addition it could also bring back the interest and buzz and start to bring back some of the stayaway fans thus adding the financial benefit.

Totally agree SG Looks like alot of yesterday was overlooked owing to the overdue win - but 6 pts ahead of the relegation scrap or not we have a long way to go and could easily fall back in there over the next two weeks. Lets just hope we can build and Hughes can use his nous thus far and the transfer window to add a bit of creativity to the team - he's doing well so far but will it be enough? Charlton where not up too much yesterday yet we still made hard work of it - but then again that is just typical Rovers. IMO a good cup run is a MUST for the benefit of the club as a whole. Keep it up Hughesy but tell the players they can try and score more goals if they want too.

the very same could be saying the same about your goodself 1864 and our very own Rovers.

Good post there FLB and sort of builds on what I was trying to say earlier re Sellars and Duff. I haven't made my selection yet as I try to base my decision on certain factors including how good they actually were for the Rovers. Looking back Wilcox and WAGGY deserve their mentions and also need to be considered but I suppose it depends all on how you base your vote really.

Can see your point here Scotty but 1 game is not good enough - fair enough I didn't see the Fulham game but from all accounts including Coleman Fulham were crap. Personally, IMO Nissa is no way a left back So following that theory -away, Nissa good (possibly) - home, Nissa bad - but still not a left back If it was up to me I would put Gray back in now that we appear to be a bit more organised buts what's going on with him?

You obviously haven't seen us lately BB I assure you, we will be lucky if we get anybody anywhere near a corner - that's of course if we actually get one into the penalty box!! As Tris says its going to be the usual Rovers ' we are so predictable we're unpredictable' scenario but I think the Club will opt for the 2k based on the away followings this season and it coming so close after Xmas especially when I feel many will be going Notlob as well. Don't under estimate us and don't be surprised if you beat us either as our league position does actually reflect our performances at the moment

Of all teams that get relegated one of the biggest factors against them is their lack of a goalscorer. This to me is a priority - the probblem we have is can we get one? As also mentioned you also need to be able to defend and we need a leader at the back who is also commanding and can organise. Therefore IMO priority must be a striker and a CB - the other positions we have enough players capable of covering for us to ensure we are not relegated and see us through to the end of season when we can start to strenghthen these other areas if these are not possible in January. As I have said before, you are more than likely to win a game by trying to score rather than trying to and pinch a win/draw on a counter attack by playing defensive.

And this is where it falls on it arse Glenn - whilst he there people will not sing as he breaks up any rhythm that starts to get going and the awful 'get into em' is just an embarrassment And that's what most are getting at - he isn't needed and I always stop singing when he starts up.

Im amazed that people find it so surprising that we got beat. Fair enough I didn't see the Fulham game but was at Norwich and Citeh, and I didn't see anything again on Saturday to make me feel any different. I came off after seeing a very poor game played with two poor teams. Basically we got found out, and its interesting to see posters are now making the same comments I have made over the last couple of weeks re our limitations - especially re Dickov and Emerton being played on the wrong side. Very few positives can be taken from the game, but I thought Neill played well (good grief - its only taken 1 and half seasons) and Todd and Short did ok. I might stir a few people here, but if we had anybody else of any capability to fill the central midfield role I would be saying drop Ferguson as as somebody has said he has had more bad games than good and is too slow at passing - and as nobody else noticed his shouting at other players more than often when its his own fault. Not denying he is good player but he needs to start doing alot more in my book. Thought Tugay played well and was surprised he was taken off - but oh for the Tugay of old as I feel there is only him that has that creative ability of making that killer pass, and a shame that age is catching up on his little legs. Thompson as I have mentioned before will not be the saviour as everybody thinks he will be, and at leasts he shoots but he tries to do too much and overcomplicates things rather than keeping them simple. Reid and Emerton where poor considering - but see above re Emerton. On the attacking aspect we look absolutely clueless, and its only because we have played some poor teams recently this has not been commented upon. I juts hope that the 3 teams that people seem to think are going to be below us are knocking about (poss Norwich) because at the moment I just can't see it and will say again that I hope January is not too late in coming. Will be an interesting next copuple of weeks - and the arrival of the FA Cup game could just go to being a preview to the type of games we will be playing next season.

I can't understand this argument, Sellars had the same facilities available as everyone else at that time and never proved himself to be world class whereas Duff has. They were both operating an equal level to other players around at the time so I can't understand how it would make a difference which generation Sellars played in. It's all relative, this argument is nothing like the Forrest v Sherwood one because Forrest clearly was one of the best players around at that time whereas Sellars wasn't. Not quite Le Chuck - they where operating in different Enviroments - ie Sellars played all his with the Rovers on the Old Division 2, whereas Duff came to the fold in the Premiership where a better standard of Football is played. As they say the field is a great leveller, and Sellars surely showed his worth at the time and was certainly the best left sided I can remember - as has been said he was on the verge of making into the England squad but due to a cruel twist of fate the chance went. The Producer also says the defenders are fitter nowadays - but then again isn't everybody - also consider the aspect of challenges being alot more physical in the good old days. The only thing against this to me which is quite nagging (thought about this also when he was playing) is why nobody came in for him earlier. As I said to MB I will find it hard to make a decision between the two- but given the chance Sellars might have been able to go on to prove his credentials. I know you can't go off what might have been but you can't just dismiss him either on a whim because the opportunity didn't arise. Remember - it was only the Rovers fans that where cooing about Duff before the World Cup. Being at Rovers in the eighties wasn't as glamorous as it has been for the last 10 years or publicised as much - which does play a part in certain aspects. Something I heard on the radio last night which I found quite interesting - a caller mentioned about a poll from a Manchester summat or other that have just done their own 'Best Ever' combined Manchester team and surprisingly George Best didn't even get in it but Scholes did.

Fair do's but they both had natural talent, and given the facilities and training regimes of today's game who is to say that Sellars would not have made it to a 'higher' level and proved to be world class I can see your point but questions could be asked of whether Duff could have shown his class in similar fashion to Sellars on the quagmires that we saw in the past, so you can't just disregard Sellars on that matter. Duff has world class and will probably get better, Sellars certainly had class but unfortunately the opportunity to me never arrrived for him to fulfill it to its potential.

If you believe that then you miss the point of just ho good Duf really is. It has little to do with facilities, fitness regimes etc it's god given talent and Duff has it by the sackful. Sellars was one of my favourite players when I first started coming to Ewood but that can't hide the fact that Duff is just just a class above. As the old guy who used to sit next to me used to say about him, 'Barcelona'. He meant he was too good to be playing at Blackburn, as much as it used to annoy me, deep down I knew it was true. A bit contradictory there in your point MB - Sellars didn't exactly have the training facilities/nutritionists/better playing surfaces that the graceful Duff certainly has nowadays so I would say that they where probably of the same cloth - both of natural talent. I'm with Paul and find it very difficult to decide on this as my memory does not serve me well on Waggy, and Brotherston as good as he was not quite at the level of the Duff and Sellars - and was still more of a right sided player than a left one to me. Anyway certainly good posts from Scotty and Brownie and would appreciate anbody's reflection for Waggy and Harrison.

Question is though - when there is tier pricing like this - which tickets do those on the away ticket scheme get??

SURELY matty Holmes should be in there

As I said before Glenn This should have been taken up at the FF - it was the club who gave him the bloody thing in the first place - get them to take it back off him. No we can't blame the guy ( Billy?) for trying but we need to let him no its an embarrassment and he would be better off using his time to play it a Girls Aloud concert where it just might blend in a bit better

Like the respect he gave our club eh Brownie Respect for your efforts of putting forward his case ( jeeps you even made me feel he was half decent for a moment), but don't go over board on that he was legend - as personally I feel you must have been easily pleased but as they say its each to their own opinion. Will be interesting what you can put forward for Scotty over Duff?

Did you take a photo of yourself Tris lobbing the missiles - or somebody took them of you god forbid? Where you wearing Burberry per chance and it went to your head??

I'm glad somebody has pointed this out. Something I pointed out after the Brum game and my analysis of Dickov. Interesting the varying viewpoints that are being commented upon, similar much to what alot where saying early season when we did have Ward and then got relegated. I still feel once everybody is fit/back Dickov would be more effective coming off the bench, as what is quite obvious is that we need to score goals and he does not exactly fill me with optimism to this. His effort and determination is superb and there is no doubt about his commitment to the fold but we are in a precarious position and a win against a Fulham side that from all accounts was very very poor including from their own manager does nothing to change my opinion considering we didn't put them to the sword and missed chance after chance which is not unusual - note ** - don't take your chances and you get punished. Anyway a wins a win and and shoved history in its place for the end of drawing sequences and it makes good reading from the people who went to the game - so I 'm happy to let Hughes go about his ways for the time being as it looks like he knows what he wants to do.

At last somebody else with their feet on the ground Excellent RR and my feelings entirely.

Agree Scotty and I don't feel anybody is arguing this - just the way it has all snowballed. Wrong - lazy arse was the main witness as American put it and the one that brought the complaint so he was involved initially if not in control after that. As I said before, the circus on this has gone with him being black rather than the scope of racism which is not good for anybody at the end of the day which is sad really. - my meaning of this is people's understanding what racism really is about - and is ironic really because with the right application at the end of the day lazy arse could have probably made a name for himself at Blackburn.

Just don''t mention this anywhere around Coventry - especially considering what is happening down there

No Scotty- but there are ways of going about resolving the issue. I just have a feeling this incident might have just opened 'pandora's box' (good and bad). Re-read my post above and the previous - maybe I haven't made it clear - but as other people have said - either he is totally ignorant (how?) of the feelings towards him from the Blackburn fans or his deaf or just plain stupid common sense should prevail to make them think about what they are doing - can't disagree on him warming up in fronmt of the BB End but did he need to go right to the corner flag and smile towards the Rovers fans for what appeared an eternity more than the couple of so minutes that normally happens when players warm up? Noboday can condone what this guy or both of them did, but lets put things in perspective.