Probably not the right place but just to add to the Rovers from the Beach song thought I would post this here and whet everybody's appetite (Think I've posted it before on the Songs forum but now extended it) To Abba's 'Thankyou for the Music' We have something special, in fact its folklore We are not a joke you've heard of us before We have a club a wonderful thing Everyone listens when we start to sing We’re so grateful and proud All we want is to sing it out loud So we say Thank you for the Rovers, the songs we’re singing Thanks for all the joy they're bringing If you can live without em, we ask in all honesty What would life be? Would you rather watch Burnerleee So we say thank you for the Rovers And giving them to me Mother's say we where Rovers before we could walk They say we began to sing long before we could talk And we've often wondered, how did it all start? Who found out that Rovers can capture a heart Like a melody can? Well, whoever it was, we are forever a fan So we say Thank you for the Rovers……

Peter Reid?

Got my Rovers armbands and beach ball Saturday (bit busy though) so quite a few others buying the beachballs etc so looks like its catching on. Knotted hanky in the making. Also, have a pair of flippers coming my way (hope they let me in with them on though) Spurs Steward : "You can't come in!" Capt K : "Why not?" Spurs Steward : "Because there's something fishy about you" Capt K: "No there isn't" Spurs Steward: "Yes there is, you're Flippered" Capt K :" Damn, and there I thought I was just pished"

SG194 This is a great bug bear of mine that other clubs do and we don't - getting Season Ticket sales early. Said it for years and years why we can't do this? Unfortunately for the Rovers, the seed has been sown this season (way before the slump -although we could have done things to rectify it before the last two weeks) and unless there is a major incentive or reduction in prices, as I have said on other threads - JW and the Board better be prepared for the impact. Personally, I feel we will be slow to hit the 10k mark never mind 12k - so unless something major happens re prices or signings then I feel JW is conning himself into thinking there will be anything but worry on the S/T side of sales. I'll be renewing mine, but it is now getting to the stage where even I have to start thinking about the cost of tickets.

Well I'm up for it - but bluntly refuse to wear sandals

Knew I'd seen that geezer somewhere before. Not with you there it won't Back to Steb though - how come they are advertising Beachballs and there are none on sale - mis appropiate selling I call it, where are them trading standards when you need them. Anyway, song for you all to learn and get in to fine voice fettler for the day ' We are Rovers Super Rovers We are Rovers... from the Beach'

Is that on the Ewood Blues package?? Couldn't commit to anything until recently - but now got tickets so looking at staying down - don't know where but will find somewhere.

Damn you BobF - better have mine on Saturday

Looking at it SS - Not a definite yet though - x4 of us (brother in law + 2 nephews) Christening to arrange - going on holiday shortly - then off to Portugal for Euro 2004 for 4 days and the Mrs just had CK jnr a few weeks back so just checking the pennies

Excellent SS Now we are more than likely out of the 'swim' get them inflatable armbands and the crest (reduced in the sale as well) Go down well with BobF's bouncy Castle - but knowing him he will be bouncing off the walls anyway due to the consumption of alcoholic beverage - eh BobF? How about it then folks - day out at the Seaside (Spurs?? )

Think we should try and drum up a theme seeing as its our last away game. Any suggestions???? Mine - Whacky Races

Did you go to Boro PG For the majority of the game we where under the cosh -and but for a bit of luck and two world class saves from Friedal we would have lost this game. However what we did see against Boro was a battling quality with players throwing in last ditch tackles and blocks( except Neill who was woeful) that we have not seen in any other game this season. It has been said a thousand times already, something is badly amiss somewhere behind the scenes - handling the yougsters (now then before you all start) is one thing but this is when the experience of the older more established players should bear fruit and show their value but from what we have seen nobody appears to give a toss. Souness has made some major faux pas this season and his reluctance to play a left footer on the left side is unbelievable. Our balance is like having a mouse weighed up with an elephant - meaning it is quite obvious which way the scales will tip if it is not sorted.

Sort of 1864 but not as in depth as you. There is something definitely amiss behind the scenes, or at least appears to be which I have stated previously - the thing is What? Things keep being said or happening that I think why and the lack of bums on seats seems to be the only major thing the club seems to be worrying about. IMO I don't think they are trying to force Souness to walk but I do think they are preparing in a roundabout way for the drop

Ah yes! - But it didn't stop Wilcox though did it? (Although they did try). All you need is someone who is as stubborn as a mule (i.e. a "handbag") or as thick as pig **** or someone with immense skill. My money's on one of the first two. Agree with FLB (can't agree with rover6 - doesn't feel right) we should at least try and get a left winger in. You know, stretch the game a bit, make the defence work, create space, add balance, and get crosses in, that sort of thing. Who knows the "wingers" (sorry, I know we don't say that word anymore) may even drop back in and provide cover for the defence. How bizarre. see BobF I knew you where taking it all in over the years - and I'm not having that LSD excuse Weird this with many agreeing with Rover6 -I also agree except for the Duff bit. There is no way we could replace him - what we didn't do was get in somebody who could play at least half decent on the left and was left footed - that way we would not have had to have changed anything major this season and could have carried on as was , as the balance would still have been there. As far as I see it, we still haven't done that (no way is Reid a left sided player) and Mahon has not been given a chance which has led to the number of different variations we have had to the team this season and contributed to our problems.

Interesting in Duff's interview in 442, he says the training at Chelsea is a lot harder than it was at Rovers. As for Souness on Sky, I think he should do more, it's a refreshing reminder of how much footballing sense the guy talks and how lucky we are to have him at Rovers. Tris Not disagreeing with him being on Sky and do agree that he does talk sense - just put it off for the time being or reduce it considerably considering the problems we have at the moment. I do think we are lucky having him and in all reality hope it is for the forseeable future, hence the need to concentrate more on the Rovers.

Should he spend 24 hours thinking about Rovers? Should he be sorting out the back four while he's on teh crapper? Didn't say all the time Bryan - just to concentrate more on the problems we have- which in all essence is what he is paid for. Souness - no doubt gets a good salary from the club for the job he is paid to do - it can't do him any good at the moment if he is here, there and everwhere attending other commitments when there are more urgent matters to hand to deal with. As I have said, Souey 'is da man' to sort and he will , I just think it will help if he becomes a bit more stubborn and selfish(if he can) and gets the players doing what they should be doing - and if that means more training then so be it (whatever that is they do in training!!)

BobF - In a swings and roundabout way you might have hit it on the head there -in my opinion he should stop his SKY appearance and concentrate on our problems (if that makes any sense) Coming back to the I/view that MC comments on - listening to it you get the feeling that Souness feels badly let down by certain players and that he made a mistake in his signings. He comments on his own performance but also on the underperforming players, and looking at his expression on his face seems perplexed as to what he has to do next. All a bit worrying really - but he will sort it - just needs to sort out what we do in training

That's why it meant so much to the Gills to put them out of the FA Cup Tris Do they still have the nightbus/train running to these areas etc?

Jordan Thought you don't go looking for trouble

And neither will I

Hasta I like it. Waggy - it was the highlight for me as well. Think somebody should have given the steward a thump as they certainly seem to be giving the fan some and he didn't resist arrest.

I experienced the policing last night on the walk to the ground, and under the circumstances OVERALL I feel they did a good job under provocation from both sides. Steb Come on stop lying I saw you jumping up and down on the PC's hat with your NASA cap on and nicking his truncheon

Although I didn't see too much wrong with what the Police did last night maybe we should listen to what some of the Celtic fans are saying here -remember what the Sheff Weds fans where saying last season. There are always different points of views on these matters and I didn't see anything major with the Police last night unlike the useless 'power brained' stewards. What I can't understand is what people where expecting last night - just 15 Celtic fans to turn up and sit down and have a cup of coffee?? We are talking about a massive club here with some passionate fans and every club has its own element of trouble makers which will increase dependant on the occasion amount of people etc -over drinking exhuberance maybe by some but to tarnish all with the same brush? Steven no offence but I think you need to get a grip of what being a football fan is about. I for one don't want to be told what do in how I get to a match or what I can't do once I am there within reason. I went to Glasgow and Sofia with my mates and we did not go with official travel (never do to away games). Had a great time in both Cities drinking all day with the locals and opposition fans always do. Drinking on the streets - yes possibly stop Corporate Celebration - have rules (why are away boxes behind the Blackburn end anyway?) If the boot had been on the other foot last night and I know what I would have been doing if we had won All fans taunt each other thats what it is all about. Last night was a massive game for both clubs and Celtic came out on top. Maybe the cordons should have been further away from the ground but all I saw last night was what you normally see at alot of high profile matches

Absolutely Revidge but I will go with Anti Euro to exempt Craig Short from this. Yet again the players and GS go mouthing off in the media and cock it all up again - Fulham anybody? What's all this @#/? about staying in the Premier League malarkey - some people are living in dream world thinking we are going to be on the top six if we carry on like we are, relegation more like - if we can't take a game like last night seriously then we have got big big problems. If we are good enough we will stay in the Premier League regardless of how many games we play or whoever we play. Last night was an embarrassment and we deserved everything we got. Sorry but the apathy that GS seemed to be showing going into this competition transpired itself last night into the players. The annoying thing was we where not beaten by a good team, but by a team that WANTED to win - which to me is what it is all about. ABSOLUTELY BLOODY AWFUL!!

Not just that Wide-Bhoy it puts people on edge which could make them act differently to anybody from what they normally would eg suspicion rather than welcome which in turn can resort to resentment. Hope you have a good day like our goodselves did in Glasgow -except for the result of course