Smart arse? Cool. I only comment on stuff I know about and don't claim any expertise or knowledge when I'm clueless. Make of that what you will. The lack of class came from you. Surprised me back then. Read your own words. Told me I knew jack about heavyweight boxing because I dared to suggest Fury could win. No wonder you don't like me reminding you. It was obvious Fury had a cracking chance, even away from home.

Disappointing fight. Summed up Klitchko perfectly. The minute he faced a bigger man he struggled. Relatively easy fight for Fury. Wished he'd have stood his ground and pushed him back a bit more. If Klitchko fancies a re-match he deserves it for his lasting record, not based on his performance last night. Will need to change tactics however, take some chances and risk getting sparked out.

Nah Abbey wouldn't beat him Gav. He's the heavy weight champion of the world, not the bouncer at the dog and duck. I think you meant Klitchko wouldn't get near Fury. Just got your words mixed up. Yeah I appreciate the sport at all levels. And heavyweight obviously. More importantly I know what I am talking about. What about you? Congratulations to Tyson Fury. Chuffed for the lad. To all those suprised a bigger, younger, longer, quicker and hungrier man won the fight you need to actually study and learn about the sport and employ a tad of common sense as well. Three belt Heavyweight World Champion. Go on lad. Made for life. Dynamite.

Cotto was small at the weight. Canello massive. Maybe as many as 15 pounds heavier by the time the first bell went. Cotto's punches just bounced off him. Little difference in their skill levels, just a lack of power prevented Cotto making any positive strides forward. Soon find out whether Fury is simply good at talking the talk, or can actually walk the walk. I'm quietly confident in him, but realise he is the underdog and fgew agree. Would be great for UK boxing if he could win, especially with Whyte, Joshua and now Haye all milling about as well. Would certainly propel Hennessey into the big time as promoter of a three belt champion.

Very pleased for Crolla. He has shown massive improvement over the last three years. The lads in the Gallagher stable are driving each other on. Shame for Murray. Held on far too much however and a lack of power against a good champion didn't help. You have to rip titles away on foreign soil. Nothing against Klitchko, but think I'll support the local lad. Interesting that such an underdog has got everyone thinking he's half a chance. Hope he pulls it off. Have never seen him looking as good.

Agreed. Watched every one of his fights. One of my favourites for years. Shame he's gone down the total twohat route for as long as I can remember. They are talking of him fighting the winner of Whyte / Joshua. He doesn't balloon between fights. Looks in good nick. There's no problem with his skills, just needs to rediscover some passion for the sport and his fighting heart. Hope Crolla wins.

Still a very good player when pl;aying for the Rovers and improved all those around him. One of my earlier memories the promotion achieved under him. Sad news indeed. Very good player and very accomplished manager. RIP from all Rovers fans and thoughts are with his family.

Eubank junior lost on points to Billy Joe Saunders. Took the wind out of his sails. All anyone can say at this time about Fury is that he is a very big unit who remains undefeated. I'm interested to see just how good he is.

Yeah a calf injury. I wouldn't want to fight someone taller, heavier, younger with a longer reach either. Especially with a poorly calf. You'll love the JJ story that's why I mentioned it. Cavorting with white women as heavyweight champion in the USA in 1910. Amazed he didn't get lynched, although the establishment won in the end. Lost his title in a 45 round bout!

I've already been told off for my limited knowledge in supporting Fury. Oh well, such is life. Ranked in the world top ten since 2010. Five years to get a title shot while Klitchko dodged him. Two years being messed about by David Haye running away. Genuine record unlike some. In his 2nd fight he fought a guy with 20 knockouts in 21 wins. In his 8th and 11th fight fought Mcdermott in two tremendous uk battles. Battered everyone else they've put in front of him. But I'm meant to believe he's useless as I've been told on here. Tomphil if you've ever got a couple of hours free watch the Jack Johnson story in black and white. What a character! What a boxer. Way before his time.

I've no finite proof who's going to be the next big draw nationwide, catching the nation's mood and interest. In talking about some of the more well known boxers manoeuvring into position you stated 'I had missed your point'. If you want me to guess I'd say Joshua and Brook as clear favourites. Warrington might ignite Leeds, they can take 15,000 anywhere. Can't see Khan even if beating Brook enthusing one and all. Fury or Billy Joe? Why the niggle about Fury? Not a particularly savoury character at times, but what do you expect, he's a fighter. If you think he's crap, fair enough, you are more than entitled to hold that view.

Was just talking. Your point didn't really stretch me. I'm not bothered who the masses choose as their golden boy. I appreciate the sport at all levels.

Joshua as the people's champion as long as gets past Whyte and they chivvy him along. Fury for the one you love to hate. Fury v Joshua is already big. There's mileage in Khan, but he needs to win a defining fight. Brook is top notch. Skillful and big at the weight. Selby? Warrington? Callum Smith? Can't see it being Degale. Quigg is also big at the weight. Crolla / Matthews / P Smith / Mcdonald brothers not for me. What about the gold medal kid Campbell? Good old Barry Hearn. Pumped it all up, but there's a lack of genuine quality.

Froch admitted his head was scrambled for 6 rounds. I hated every minute of that fight. He took so many big right hands flush on his jaw. What a chin! I was gutted for him. Groves took 18 unanswered shots, some flush, was toppling forward drunkardly and was all over the place. You dont turn yout back in pro-boxing. Should have been given a count. Then Froch could have pasted him. Then had another go at Ward, Kessler perhaps or maybe even irritated Calzaghe enough. Instead Groves gets his re-match and you know the rest. Froch should have gone out against a great champion, instead of a great occasion.

As a Froch fan I didn't like Groves either. Froch was physcologically damaged, fragile, very sloppy early doors and made the first fight much harder than it ever needed to be. Groves dined out and laughed all the way to the bank after putting Froch on his behind. Everyone forgot he had lost! The 2nd fight took a lot out of him. Embarrassing getting sparked like that.

Whether it's a good away point or not, that 4 points from the 21 available. Minus 3 goal difference. 23rd position in the table. 15 points off the top after 7 games! 10 points behind Burnley. That's a pretty grim start indeed. Wonder what the squad expected and now make of it and who are they are blaming? Bet Jordan's chuffed. Wonder if Short is relaxed? Hanley as capitano happy how he's marshalling things? Anyone in management care? Worried for their jobs? No-one will be happy internally and the bitching will have begun.

Quite. Suprising decision. Pleased Taylor has got another go. Spunky little battler, good player of spin.

At elite level you need an elite chin, elite engine and elite punching power. None of which applies to Groves. Was never going to beat a Mayweather favourite on points, especially after sitting on his ass in round one. Consigned to history now I hope. Disappointed in Cornish. 18 stone - 6 foot 7. Softy. Don't write Dillian Whyte off just yet. Has already beat Joshua knocking him down, and is undefeated with 13 knock outs. Genuine bad blood between the two. Can see it being a cracker.

There are simply no parallels with those times and today. I don't remember losing 20 million plus per year back then for example, with 8 million pound strikers, playing in a dilapidated cow shed, struggling to pay the milk bills. Strange isn't it how proud I was of a club with nothing back then. Compared to the feelings of disgust now with an amazing infrastructure, expensive players, billionaire owners. If this is the best the current management can produce you would think personal dignity would facilitate change. But thats just dreaming as these folk are more than happy to accrue huge riches while the club stagnates.

Odd games here and there shouldn't matter. I'm more depressed our entire season is over before it even began. Hence being so irritated to be dumped out of the Cup as well. They've no right to take the heart and soul out of the club. Most clubs in this division can at least dream of hitting the play offs or a cup run with good luck and a following wind.And now all the talk is of relegation. If Bowyer keeps us up it be lauded as a success. And then we'll find out we lost another 20 million doing it. We can't even think of automatic promotion and now the play offs are also a pipe dream. Gav's right, sitting here watching this all unfold is excruciating. Perfect preperation prevents @#/? poor performance.

It' hard to disagree after the start we've made, but I still don't think we will go down. Some very poor teams in this division and it's a long old slog. I wondered pre-season how squad morale would be affected by the negative atmosphere ceeated by prominent players wishing to leave, or being sold. The lack of belief, structure and leadership, coupled with an embargo. It's ok earning a fortune but people live to their means and there still has to be a reason for what your doing. We've all had jobs we disliked and had zero passion or interest in. Anything less than 100% effort in pro-sport and your goosed. I thought bad results may be the catalyst for change, but presumed the local derbies to be key in that respect. It's all happening a tad quicker than we expected. Bowyer needs to go as he cannot organise us defensively. Nothing has changed since day one. I never understood and still don't. I would have started with a keeper and gone from there. Impossible to plan effectively or be overly confident when you know your likely to conceed against all you play. He should have made us uncompromising and hard to beat and focused on the defence, especially knowing a predator like Rhodes could always nick a goal to win. You can't conceed 60 plus a season and expect any success. I don't mind low scoring games as it's what I expect from two organised professional football clubs with very fine margins between them. The stupidity of our strategy pisses me off.

We've done very well indeed. Supposedly much bigger clubs have had years of failure. Enjoyed our cup exploits in the noughties very much. I started believing we'd get to the latter stages and often we did. When I started watching the thought of winning a cup was ridiculous, but fair shout to our club in that the only one we had a realistic chance in, we won, beating PL clubs along the way. (What a shame Hendry isn't a lasting hero after two spells and two trophies).

Quite right. No point supporting the Rovers if you want to win trophies. They've been few and far apart all my life. Its not about that for us and many others. But I expect them to be up for it whoever and wherever we play. I loved the fact teams didn't like coming up north to play us under those managers.

They were so bitter about that result. They didn't think we could win that game. If Pedersen could head straight Chelsea would be the same. We've been lucky to see such quality at the Rovers. Newer fans can only dream of such times.

You know why I supported him. Who'd have thought five years on? What a farce from day one.