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Want to PM me the hotel you're staying at 1864?

Hughesy try Skyscanner

Want to post on the Feyenoord thread, LD?

I read on the official site that it's a one hour train journey from Amsterdam to Rotterdam. Is that right? Let us know where you're staying Glenn! No lies please.

I booked from Wed to Friday via jet2.com 2 people £127 inc travel insurance. Anyone else staying in Amsterdam?

Anyone recommend hotel in Amsterdam?

Kralow and Feyenoord away.

We play the four teams in our group once. Two home games, two away games.

Found this: FIFA laws of the game "Law 11 - Offside Offside position It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position. A player is in an offside position if: * he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent "

I'll make my original point again. THIS YEAR the linesmen are being told not to put their flag up, until the player in an offside position TOUCHES the ball. So Benni wasn't flagged for the long ball through the middle. Nor was he offside when Roberts played it to him, because as Stuwilky says, you can't be offside when you are behind the ball. I think the confusion about not being offside when the ball is passed backwards, is just an illustration because if it is passed backwards, the player must have been behind the ball. If you are behind the ball, you can't be offside.

McCarthy was behind the ball when Roberts played it Rev. You can't be offside when you're behind the ball.

Pies? Discussed by Wiganners here

It not really. If the linesmen are told to keep their flag down until the player touches the ball, then Benni was onside. Report by Wigan fan. " Despite a good start at Ewood Park, Latics once again failed to capitalise from being in a position of strength and in the end were lucky not to have conceded at least four more goals than the two Blackburn did manage to put away."

I've been thinking about that "offside" goal. McCarthy was definately onside when he recieved the pass from Roberts - so the claims were that he was offside when the initial ball was played through. Well, last season the flag should have gone up when Benni turned and chased. The linesmen are interpretting the rules differently this season. They have been told to keep the flag down until the player in an offside position touches the ball. We saw that on a number of occassions yesterday. So in this case, the linesman was correct in not raising his flag initially, because Benni didn't touch the ball first. Then, when Roberts played the ball sideways and Benni scored he was onside. So the decision was correct? I think it was.

What we need is more Benni interviews! Saw his after match interviews on Football first and MOTD. What a great character, what a great sense of humour.

Well it was you who said the prices were double Abbs.

I thought we did hammer them second half. The scoreline doesn't reflect that, but Kirkland was superb - and needed to be. It could have been 4 or 5.

how much was it in the riverside today SG? It's not all down to prices. Although the number of tickets having to be bought this season, is going to tax even the most ardent fan.

Well it was £15 against Salzburg, - how much was it in the riverside today Abbey?

Subtle Bob. Your work is appreciated, thanks. Hopefully someone from the lancs morning telegraph reads this, there should be a contract in the offing.

Rovers 1-1 Wigwam.

OO Err Ozz. :ph34r: Put it right now.

No preview in yet folks, so we can just go ahead with the post, errr pre - match chat on this thread.

I wasn't impressed with red bull. I thought the coaching and tactical side of their team was excellent - the influence of Trapattoni was evident there. Their movement and passing was really good. What they didn't have was the players of quality to make that extra step up in class. Their players weren't good enough to fully embrace what they were trying to do.

OK according to this.