7 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Indeed you would… (sorry, I couldn’t resist 😁)

Regarding this latest ‘fuck up’ - wasn’t Leeds’ relegation confirmed after Bolton were knocked out of the play offs?

There you go - shows the importance of proof reading. Rovers should take note

48 minutes ago, M_B said:

The Shearer stuff is absolutely relevant, I've heard it myself loads of times, although it's usually disguised as a Venky thing, ( which is also a load of bollox).

So people who express concerns about Venky's ownership and are worried about the future of the club while they are in charge are just talking bollox and are really moaning about the quality of current players compared to 30 years ago?

Unbelievable statement.

14 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Does nobody check this?

Fuck sake. It's just amateur.

Sympomatic of the way the club operates from top to bottom. No care or attention given to anything.

After the very public 'paperwork' cock up in January you would think every single peice of information coming out of the club would be scruitinised very carefully but no, nothing has changed.

4 hours ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Then he's not the right man for the job, which fundamentally is the point. 

I agree, he daren't take the plunge to lower prices for the reasons you stated, but his justification for not doing so rings hollow. He said somewhere recently (FF minutes?) that the lack of take-up for lower-priced ticket offers at the end of the season proved reducing ST prices wouldn't attract buyers (or words to that effect). That is clearly nonsense. He is out of touch and out of ideas. It's time for him to go. 

 

I seem to remember ( FF minutes again ) that someone pointed out to Waggott that PNE and Bolton sold far more season tickets than we did for the season just ended and look like doing so again. Waggott's response was that Rovers generated more revenue while selling less tickets. That's his justification and all he cares about - hitting his targets, getting his bonus.

Fair pricing, cost of living, better atmosphere, future generations of fans ? water off a duck's back to Waggott. And he sets the prices they way he does because the owners let him and don't care in the slightest. 

I doubt a single Venky could quote our season ticket prices if asked.

The Morton loan didn't benfit us at all.

Elliott was obviously a good player and did well for us but even he wasn't the finished article.

I remember when he gave a goal away against Reading by trying to dribble out of defence. The commentator siad 'That's why these young players get loaned out - to get these mistakes out of the way and go back to their parent club a better player"

I would much rather our own younsters learned from first team football and then we benfit form their growing experience - not some other club.

On 22/05/2023 at 00:45, philipl said:

What does finishing above Watford, Norwich and West Brom count as?

They failed to an even greater extent than we did.

1 hour ago, goozburger said:

Taken from LancsLive.

Broughton: "We know what Tyler allowed us to do and develop. I had been asked by supporters on the street if he was only playing because of a clause, let's get that off the table, that was not the case. He was selected on merit, what he was doing in training and in games. He was a fantastic person and a player, we were devastated to see him get injured, it was a pleasure to work with him."

He may have been picked 'on merit' but Broughton doesn't actually say there was no clause !

Without googling and searching records for the last 6 or 7 years, I am not sure when Coventry's upturn in fortunes began.

Was it when they got rid of despised owners who had little interest in the club and replaced them with someone who cares ?

Or was it when they got rid of Steve Waggott ?

Either way I think we should follow their example.

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I'm not sure how you could possibly view yesterday's game in isolation irrespective of the other results. I was sat there glumly  thinking it was all completely irrelevant bearing in mind that by the time we finally went ahead Sunderland were already home and hosed. In fact I was somewhat irritated that the players seemed to be celebrating yesterday's irrelevant result like we'd secured automatic promotion or something when they'd barely lifted a finger during the previous eight games when it actually mattered and would have made a difference had they put a shift like yesterday in.

Exactly how I felt. During the period that we were firing the goals in and Millwall had wilted, it had the feeling of a friendly match.

Any excitement disappeared when Sunderland scored - PNE were never going to do us any favours.

I felt nothing but disappointment at the end. The win was totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

21 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Have you seen the goals that Sunderland team are scoring? That's nothing to do with the manager feeling pressure, they're just wonder strikes from outside the box from quality players. 

I was not really commenting on the Sunderland team or players or even Mowbray's role in getting them into the playoffs. I'm not even debating if he is a good or bad manager.

What I was pointing out was that Mowbray seems to have thrived at Sunderland while his last 4 years at Rovers were a non-event and he seemed to have very little enthusiasm for the job. In my opinion it is down to the environment he is working in. Sunderland have belief and ambition and momentum. We have Venky's

4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Mowbray didn't build that Sunderland side...

But his attitude is totally different.

Under no pressure whatsoever at Rovers, he was able to sit back and coast along. Remember the death spirals ? wouldn't have survived anywhere else.

30 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

The worst ever run of six defeats on the bounce againt that lot in our long and Proud history..cheers you Venky Ham Shankers.

Either back Tomasson with hard cash next season and show some intent or sell the Club and piss off for good.

I vote ( hope and pray ) for the second option.

12 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

Can you pick out some of those big chances Burnley had?

They had one shot on target. We had five. 

Does it matter? We lost

2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Ah, they COULD have gone up another gear, but didn't at any point in the 90 minutes.

Because they didn't need to. They won.

1 minute ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

 

Our lack of cutting edge let us down. Nothing else. We were the better team. 

They could have gone up a gear if they needed to. They did enough to beat us without really being troubled

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

You are confusing better team with winning team. They scored and won but we were the better team.

If you couldn't see that you should give up.

Does not compute. We never troubled them all night.

2 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

.....and yet, despite that litany of despair, we were the better team. 

Were we ?  we didn't create a single chance all night. No point having the ball and doing nothin with it.

At any point in the match did you honestly think we were going to win it ?

2 minutes ago, J*B said:

I’m not at all into this “proud” rhetoric that goes around, especially on social media. 

Hyam looked out of sorts and has since his Scotland call up. 

Carter made plenty of errors. 

Pickering responsible for their goal. 

Travis looked poor first half especially and had no control over any element of the game. 

BBD did nothing again. 

Dolan has no understanding of football, his decision making was poor. 

Hedges had no impact on the game. 

Rovers security staff where all over the shop and had little control over the stands. 

Burnley won the championship at Ewood Park.

Short of Szmodics and Wharton (especially) who I agree where great, I don’t see much good this evening.  

Exactly. Cold hard facts, it was men against boys ans I can't imagine much improvement next season.

The championship this year has been poor and we had a chace to make an impact. The failure in the January window was always going to have an impact. Once again, we are letting valuable players walk away for free at the end of the season. 

Tonight just highlighted how far behind we are.

We are going nowhere with these owners.

4 minutes ago, SBlue said:

In other words - we’ve improved.

results wise we certainly haven't

7 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

You cannot level blame at GB the appointment came late so move on. The issue was the club secretary who reports to SW who is to blame for the mother of all fuck ups. 

But what we really needed, and what JDT asked for, was a striker. He didn't even manage to have one lined up come the end of the window. 

WWell, we tried but the honest truth is that we were nowhere near the level requried.

Never going to score if we played until Christmas and that is due to the season being derailed in January. A decent striker signed in the window would have seen us safe weeks ago.

As for Ashley Barnes, I'd have in our team tomorrow - exactly what we've been missing all season.

3 hours ago, philipl said:

We will forever be in his debt for restoring us to a football club.

Must have missed that.

We are still a shambles with no effective board and absent, uninterested owners. Nothing changed when Mowbray was here.

3 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

It shows how much people on this messageboard jump at any chance to criticise our own team. Their keeper basically caught the ball in the box to equalise. Yet we're talking about us being bottlers. 

I repeat the keeper pretty much caught the ball and bundled it in. And the referee actually had a perfect line of sight. 

Put simply that has the potential to cost us like £200 million. Because their goalie came up and handled it in our box. 

We were looking nervous and scared for the last 20 minutes and let them take the game to us rather than try and finish them off. That's where we bottled it - not that one incident in at the end