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Or that perhaps JDT got the points that might just keep us up.

Hyam should be off on principle and for JE to show his authority.

You don't have to be world beaters here -it had the feeling of a nothing draw-but you just don't give away 2 goals if you want to achieve anything.

Agree with speeeeeeedie -possible to separate the player and the addict.

Improve the ‘product’ on the pitch. Agree no magic wand and will take time to rebuild years of mismanagement. I know there are bigger issues than this but…. It would be nice for those paying premium prices not to have to constantly deal with people who have paid for a cheap ticket to try and sit in a more expensive one. Not even waiting to say half- time to see if anybody has turned up but occupying several seats 10 mins before kick-off. Rather than slinking off shame faced, they then move several times, only to be moved on yet again.

23/24 Income 25.39 Expenditure 1.5 22/23 Income 0 Expenditure 3.75 21/22 Income 17.7 Expenditure 1.36 20/21 Income 0 Expenditure 1.81 19/20 Income 3.35 Expenditure 6.5

Club employees?

Indeed we will. About £10 mill cheaper to run?

On Markandy -apologies not read the thread so may have been mentioned already. Jury out for me. Age on his side, and with game time and good coaching who knows?

Sammie = 23 goals Markanday, Sigurdsson, Gilsenan, Dolan = 11 between them (Gilsenan obviously 0)

So do City, Arsenal, Brighton. City did get 'the tank' to change it up but for many teams at a higher level it is de rigeur to play in that manner. And thinking about it, I suspect Southampton may have settled for the playoffs given their position now.

Well done lads. Excellent shift, particularly as we only made one (enforced) sub. Deserved point. Pity we just didn’t have the quality at times to convert the turnovers into something. Must have had 20 or so but couldn’t make it count. In the end we had more chances. Sammie’s chip was delightful. Thought they were poor and looked a little jaded (5 subs). No plan B (why didn’t they just use their 2 big lads from the back up front for the last 5 because plan A got them nowhere really) but just kept doing the same thing over and over and we looked reasonably comfortable apart from a glaring miss early doors (Armstrong?) and a cute pass that left them on the wrong side of Wharton only for Pears to make a good save. Thought the ref was excellent.

I guess also in those days there was little else to do except kick a ball against a wall in a backstreet somewhere. Now, far too many other distractions often involving a phone or computer. (edit to self -stop it or you'll be talking about jumpers for goalposts next....) edit -and as for getting a ref -why on earth would any sane person do it?

Yes that is sad. Those types of industries were more than just work -often supported a whole community on a variety of levels. Social clubs, football teams, cricket teams, table tennis teams etc. Not to mention the socialisation of young men in the company of older men who would show them (usually) how to behave.

Same as before if not better due to more players available eg best front 4. But not really interested anymore in comparisons. The shitshow is behind the scenes.

Brighton’s £122.8m profit is record for an English club Only Barcelona have posted higher profits in a season, recording about £300 million for 2022-23 campaign Brighton & Hove Albion have set a record for the largest profit made by an English football club. The profit of £122.8 million last season was thanks in large part to the sale of players such as Alexis Mac Allister to Liverpool and Marc Cucurella to Chelsea but even without income from transfers Brighton were still in the black in a year when many of their Premier League rivals made heavy losses. Brighton beat the previous mark of £113 million set by Tottenham Hotspur in 2017-18. Globally, only Barcelona have posted higher profits, though their figure of €351 million (about £300 million) for 2022-23 involved the club selling their “economic levers” — being paid up front for future income. Paul Barber, Brighton’s chief executive and deputy chairman, has signed an extension to his contract until 2030, the club have announced. Their chairman, Tony Bloom, said in the annual report: “The accounts show an exceptional profit for the period, and what is incredible once again is that while we have achieved our best ever season on the field we have also delivered our best ever results off it.” The income for the year included £22 million paid by Chelsea in compensation for Graham Potter and his coaching team moving to Stamford Bridge. The figures do not include any transfer income from the £115 million sale of Moisés Caicedo to Chelsea or £25 million for the goalkeeper Robert Sánchez to the same club. The accounts say that after the end of the last financial year Brighton have net transfer income of £51.1 million. Barber said: “It’s a challenge to be sustainable and less reliant on your owner, in our case Tony, and at the same time put a competitive squad together and compete on the field. “Last season showed we are capable of doing that. This season, even having sold Moisés and Alexis, we have still been very competitive. We have stepped up a level, we have had to play in Europe as well, and we have maintained our position in the top ten of the Premier League all season. “The challenge is to keep repeating the trick, unearthing young talent in different parts of the world and fishing in ponds that other clubs don’t tend to look in, and then using our coaches to develop those players into Premier League quality and beyond.” For the first time since Bloom made his first loan to the club in 2007, Brighton have made a repayment to him, reducing the interest-free loans balance from £406.5 million to £373.3 million. Brighton’s manager, Roberto De Zerbi, 44, has been linked to jobs at top European clubs, including Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Liverpool, but he played down talk about his future. “I am still proud to be coach at Brighton,” De Zerbi said. “It [the future] is not a problem. At the moment I want to be focused and to keep my eyes on the target we have. I have the contract at the moment. The focus is on the pitch. “I’m very relaxed. The problems are the injured players and the preparations for the next game. These are the problems, not the contract or my future.” Barber said “De Zerbi had done “an incredible job” especially given the club’s injury problems. He also said Brighton were keen for a “new deal” to be done to provide more funding for EFL clubs — the Premier League clubs have so far blocked any agreement on a proposed extra £125 million a year. “We are aware a deal needs to be done and we want the whole of the football pyramid to be sustainable — 26 years ago we were bottom of that pyramid and we could so easily have not been here today,” he added. “We have to find a fair and equitable way of creating that new deal, and we are aware that giving money to clubs below us is effectively assisting them in their efforts to replace us — and some of those clubs have wealthier benefactors than ours.” Meanwhile, Leicester City have announced that they lost £89.7 million last season, following on from a £92.5 million loss the previous year. The club have been charged with breaching the Premier League’s Profit and Sustainability Rules but are challenging its jurisdiction as they are now in the Championship. Kieran Maguire, a football finance author, said: “There are terrible numbers for Leicester and they could have been even worse if they had not extended their financial year by a month which allowed them to include the income from the sale of James Maddison.”

Arsenal v Luton -a chance to see our 2 ex goalies in action.

Fascinating piece in the Times on set piece experts. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d6380a7b-0c6c-4ba1-94c9-3f586760423b?shareToken=7a5009f192b6f2ff15fc5af3ee4d5dfb Wondering if artbitro might like to be our referee expert for the club? 😃

No particular axe to grind with JE. His remit is simple, keep us up, keep his head down with regards off-field stuff, toe the official narrative. Just like Mowbray. No heat on owners, we limp on, zombie club, SWAG happy, fans happy just to watch a game. It's already happening in the fanbase and media. Nothing to see here. Admin errors, what admin errors? Others may prefer a manager who is more ambitious and calls out the loons. More chance that way of spotlight on the dysfunction and possible change. Can't see SWAG/Suhail making that mistake again.

Yes thanks Jim -was trying to remember the name of the good player who Mowbray insisted on playing on the wing when it was clear he was better and wanted to play in the centre. You could see it in his body language. (EDIT ah just seen your post too Tyrone.) Reid

Increased maturity and great coaching by JDT 😃 edit and perhaps playing in the shop window to get away from the present nightmare?

Van Hecke. Think i've raised it before -the issue of the quality of loans which has declined. Never liked Mowbray as a manager but he did seem to get some good loans. Tosin, Elliot etc Is that: down to cash down to Mowbray's network -agents/personal contacts being better than present incumbents the dysfuntion at Rovers is so well known that we are a last resort

Precisely. Plus JRC and Tronstad. Plus Pears instead of Walhstedt. How many of the 4 will be here next season? Are we due a Mowbray splurge in the cycle?

Sammy's movement and Dolan's perfectly weighted pass make it.

Because he is a foreigner, speaks English better than them, called out the nonsense at the club and had a good line in wry humour? 🙂