Have to say Mowbray may well be done. 3 tough games coming up and we are now playing poorer and poorer.

I think we are saying the same thing. You can get up if you find and attract a Farke or Dyche. But can our board and owners do that?

Id say the club's ambition has been reasonable in terms of budget provided and Mowbray is a guy with a previous promotion on the CV. So I think it's a bit unfair to say effort is not being made. I do however agree it is now clear Tony is not likely to get us up. Question is who will? To near guarantee promotion we would need to drop 30m+ which I doubt Venkys will do. Failing that you need to find the magic diamond in the rough manager who can haul you up with an average budget - the next Dyche or Farke. If anyone knows who that is there are 20+ clubs in the championship who would like to know also.

Mowbrays got a good squad together through picking a fair few good players. It would be be quite possible that whoever next comes in will lack that knack. It's not easy. But I agree with the basic point which is that after three years he is unlikely to suddenly turn it around and address the three key weaknesses we have 1- Poor mentality 2- Poor fitness 3- Poor recruitment in key areas despite a decent budget (centreback, centre forward) Agree that the board should be looking closely at the succession plan if they aren't already. Which they probably aren't. My main concern is the odds are we will appoint someone worse. Which is what makes ambivalent about change.

We are a frustrating team. We have a very technically strong team for this level who play good football when on song. Downing, Holtby, Dack can all really play, and I think Armstrong is better than people give him credit for. But we lack consistency, heart and desire. We always look like we can concede soft goals and frequently do, even if the opposition aren't creating chances. It's been like that for a long long time now.

Loss today and I think Mowbray is under serious pressure.

Frustrating

Id go for that too, good team. Id like to see JRC too either start or on the bench.

This is the key question. Minimum requirement at the Euros will be Quarter Finals, expectation Semis, Stretch is the Final. He also needs to beat everyone who is not tier one (Belgium, France, Portugal, Spain). Will he get sacked if we lose in the quarter finals to France? Probably not. If we lose to Switzerland (despite them being a good side). Probably yes.

Youre not alone thinking this but I have to say I just don't get it. He's got a squad with very few top players (Kane, Stirling, Henderson), some okay upper mid table prem types, and a lot of players who can't get in their club teams and a lot of kids - only one of whom who really seems like they definitely will become world class (Sancho). Compared to France, Germany, Brazil etc it's pretty slim pickings. He's done really well broadly speaking with clever tactics and imagination. The England job really is a thankless one. I'm sure if Dyche or Howe or Mourinho or Ferguson took the job they'd get the same.

To be fair it seems like the UEFA protocol worked, the neo nazi kids left at half time and second half has been played in an okay atmosphere (as far as I can tell from tv anyway).

We look loads better with Winks and Barkley in there. Totally in command.

Thought it was a tactically weird game from Southgate. Czechs really good so all credit to them. However we couldn't compete in midfield at all game but we stuck with three strikers and 3 mids and then brought on a fourth striker for a midfielder at the end. It seemed obvious we should have brought Winks or Barkley on for a striker from around the 30th minute. Still first qualification game we've lost in 43 so no point getting too bent out of shape.

I think both Lenihan and Cunningham getting injured will be the end of Tony. Bit unlucky, but he didn't buy the cover when he could. I guess we will be going three at the back.

I don't really see the problem with what he said. More generally though I wouldnt say discussing how we will score more goals from midfield as being a burning topic. The burning topic is why aren't our strikers scoring, and why has our defence regressed so badly in the last week. Not sure why LET is asking those sorts of questions on the back of a really poor week for the club?

To be honest if TM were to go I would probably prefer DJ to a gamble of who Venkys pull out of a hat. Could go horrendously wrong though. Not much to base any forecast on really.

Hopefully it's short term but I think if he is out long term we would switch to 343 with Downing at LWB. ------------------------Walton ---------Lenihan----Tosin----Williams Bennett----Travis-----Johnson---Downing -------Dack-----Armstrong-----Holtby

If we get Travis back we've got a good chance in this one. Without him I would fear for us. Also really need Cunningham. Id say go for a hardworking team that can hit them on the break. We need to win the midfield battle. -------------------------Walton Bennett----Lenihan----Williams---Cunningham -----------------Travis--------Johnson ----Rothwell--------Dack-------Downing -----------------------Armstrong Struggling where to put Holtby - could start him ahead of Rothwell or Dack.

Well they truly fucked us up, but they are now the only thing keeping us afloat and they broadly stay out of football affairs.

He's got a few games to turn it around. But you know the situation has changed when the chadster is questioning.

Three things to say 1) We missed Travis hugely. Evans couldn't cover the ground he does or be anywhere near as physical. As a result the whole formation didn't work. Very odd Johnson didn't play. 2) defending back to last season's standards. QPR didnt really create too much but scored 4 goals which is mad. Defending was really really poor. 3) attacking wise by the end of the second half I think we ended up with the right combination of players, but we struggled to win the ball again due to Travis. When we did we looked dangerous.

I agree it looks a bit lightweight, would be happier with Travis or Johnson alongside.

Really, he has been great for me. Always finds his man, passes forward, sets things going. Watch him closely today. Not had anyone with that quailty at centre mid since Cairney.

Don't think you can drop the only defensive midfielder, Downings been excellent, Armstrong and Dack score goals. If anyone's dropped it should be Graham and play Dack up front.

To be fair we've got to a point where we have a lot of good attacking players so it's going to be hard to keep everyone happy. Playing Downing in a middle two is a bold move which Mowbray should get credit for.