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[Archived] European Cup
doctorryan replied to Grabbi Graeme's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
That's part of it Phil , but not the whole story. Now I understand why there's confusion between us on this. The "coefficient share applied to the number of teams competing UP TO a maximum of four" is actually just 1/4 of the equation. To make this as short as humanly possible: 75% of the first £400m(or something like that - the number keeps growing and it starts as Swiss Francs) in total revenue goes into the CL pools and 82% of everything after that. That CL pool is then split into 2: The Fixed Amount This pays a base guarantee that totals around £8m + performance bonus (something like £300,000 per win, £150,000 per draw) in The Group Phase. There are additional performance bonuses for qualifying for the knockout rounds and for each additional round you progress. There is a total cap on what you can receive from The Fixed Amount pool that I believe is around £20m(but only the finalists would get anywhere close to it). The Market Pool This is where the number you're referring to, the "coefficient share applied to the number of teams competing" comes from. When I saw Everton & £5m the math made me think you were referring to the fixed amount. Half of the market pool is split exactly as you have stated. Each of the member associations get a share of this half of The Market Pool based on coefficient ranking. That money is then split amongst the clubs as follows: ------------------------------------------------------------------- # of clubs:~~~ 4~~~~3~~~~~2~~~~1~~~ --------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- Champions~~ 40%~~45%~~~55%~~100% Runners-up~~30%~~35%~~~45% No. 3~~~~~~15%~~20% No. 4~~~~~~15% ------------------------------------------------------------------- How that would work with 5 clubs is anyone's guess. The other half is based on "the amount representing the value of each market in proportion to the number of matches played." Which to me translates as: The biggest clubs that attract most fans & PPV receipts(and the clubs lucky enough to draw them) get the biggest share of this. And neither number includes gate receipts. In other words, I've never heard of anybody, not even a small association club that lucked through and then lost all 6 group matches, that only made £10m out of all that(at least not since the turn of the century). But I could be wrong. -
[Archived] European Cup
doctorryan replied to Grabbi Graeme's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 1st Qualifying Round July 24 champions from countries ranked 26 or lower 2nd Qualifying Round Jul-Aug involving 28 teams: 12 winners from 1st qualifying round 10 champions from countries ranked 16-25 6 second-placed teams from countries ranked 10-15 3rd Qualifying Round August involving 32 teams: 14 winners from 2nd qualifying round 6 champions from countries ranked 10-15 3 second-placed teams from countries ranked 7-9 6 third-placed teams from countries ranked 1-6 3 fourth-placed teams from countries ranked 1-3 Group Stage Sep-Dec involving 8 groups of 4 teams each: 16 winners from 3rd qualifying round 9 champions from countries ranked 1-9 6 second-placed teams from countries ranked 1-6 1 defending cup holder No country can have more than 4 representatives in the Champions League. This implies that, if the defending cup holder comes from one of the top three ranked countries, and did not qualify directly for the Champions League, the fourth- placed team of that country has to participate in the UEFA Cup (e.g. Real Zaragoza in 2000). If the defending cup holder already qualified directly for the group stage of the Champions League, the champion of the 10th country on the country ranking list will gain direct access to the group stage, the champion of the 16th country on the country ranking list will gain direct access to the 3rd qualifying round, and the champions of the 26th and 27th country on the country ranking list will gain direct access to the 2nd qualifying round. Similar changes are made if the cup holder already qualified directly for one of the qualification rounds, or if the cup holder did not qualify directly but is from one of the top three ranked countries. -
[Archived] European Cup
doctorryan replied to Grabbi Graeme's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
That's ridiculous. There are 32 clubs in group phase and they each get roughly £25 million. But if 5 clubs from the same association make it they're going to withhold one of the shares? How would that work? Nonsense. This whole thing is ridiculous. European Cup winners get to defend their status as the competition's winner, period. Anyone who looked at the actual rules would see they really have no other choice and that including Liverpool will be at the expense of no one. The 4 club limit was a vain attempt to appease the smaller associations in UEFA by saying "We won't let the Big 3 (FAPL, La Liga, Series A) get too powerful. -
Derbyshire 6-3
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That's affirm.
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Stead from Tugay 5-3
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Kev Gallacher 3-3
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"The Judge" goes in for Brad.
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Is it Neil and Wendy in the box Flops?
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Keep me clued in if you can flops.
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Found it, but it's not working.
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Anybody seen the audio link for Radio Rovers tonight yet?
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Based on hair length I'm thinking Colin Hendry.
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It is 97-98, Henchoz's first season, our last with Asics.
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[Archived] Glazer Set For Utd
doctorryan replied to ainscough99's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
Whatever. -
[Archived] Glazer Set For Utd
doctorryan replied to ainscough99's topic in Football Messageboard Archive
All hell is going to break loose down there. Ferguson To Resign -
For those who might misinterpret my post from above; I thought we played a solid, clean game that was typical of our efforts since the middle of November. If the nancy boys from London (or anyone else for that matter) don't like it; GOOD! And I hope Todd DID mean to hit Van (word I can't use that means feline) on purpose. It'll make it extra fun to recall years from now after he gets away with it.
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He had it coming anyway for that stupid dance he did in front of the Blackburn End 3 weeks ago. Sparky said in the days leading up to the match that we would go there to "compete" and that if Arsenal were to win, then they would walk off the pitch knowing they had been made to work for it. I like to put it this way: If you can't beat 'em, beat 'em up. Maybe that should be our catch phrase for selling next year's season tickets.
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thats cheap for say an nfl game No it's not. We're talking face-values printed on the tickets, not what you could get for them on eBay. (They do that a lot over here). You haven't seen the face value of Patriots tickets lately! I'll send you a Terrible Towel so you can deal with the pain.
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thats cheap for say an nfl game No it's not. We're talking face-values printed on the tickets, not what you could get for them on eBay. (They do that a lot over here).
