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Carvalhal's CV is impressive, even if you ignore the years prior to Sheff Wed he has done good jobs everywhere he has been since then. Even Swansea he took over a side that look doomed and went close to keeping them up (probably a similar situation to Mowbray here in 2017 yet Mowbray got a new deal whereas Carvalhal didn't). Yes he spent heavily at Sheff Wed but have to assume he will not be expecting that sort of money at his next club. He will presumably know the parameters before declaring an interest. It baffles me how some people would overlook his credentials IF he is interested. Not my first choice but can't think of many stronger CVs. If we want to experiment, develop, float around mid table or get relegated then we need to look for another Mowbray who will shoulder shrug for 4 years and everyone can laud being a ''wonderful human being" Unfortunately in this nasty cut throat business you need a winner who is going to drag a club up with him. If that means someone like this, who has a couple of seasons go at it and then leaves if he fails then so be it, plenty more fish in the sea afterwards and at least we've tried. Think he will be out of the equation though. Too bold, too ambitious for this setup. Think they will want a nice chap who will play the uncle role at Brockhall and accept Venky nonsense and budget shenanigans.

Don't get the Ferguson thing. Is it because he's scary and jumped around like a nutter when he held the reigns at Everton? Anything else that might suggest he is up to the job of managing Rovers?

Yes, he was excellent at Blackpool, Leeds and Preston, and also got Huddersfield up in his sort time there. I wouldn't hold his Sunderland spell against him as everyone struggles there and they were a sinking ship when he went in but since then it has been a succession of ill fated spells. I wouldn't describe him as a failure at Bradford, Blackpool and Fleetwood, but certainly nothing there to warrant getting the Rovers job. He always had Glyn Snodin and Ian Miller on his coaching staff until those most recent couple of jobs when he has worked instead with Dunny. Not blaming Dunny for the downturn but sometimes managers just aren't the same after losing their right hand man.

4-5 years ago around the Coyle/Mowbray arrival time I'd have been all over Grayson here as his stock was high at Preston. But not any more. He seems to have lost his mojo and it would be a ludicrous, yet typical parochial Rovers appointment. Wouldn't surprise me if Mowbray has dropped his name in there as they seem to get on well.

It comes down to risk. People can label the likes of Hughton as boring or yesterdays men, but the simple reality of the matter is he's won automatic promotion twice in the last decade and also led a shambolic Birmingham side to the play-offs. Therefore, if you are wanting to do similar, it makes sense that you would look at his record and think he has what it takes to repeat it or go close. Of course someone in the lower leagues could also do this, and might even do it for less money or playing nicer football, but there is a much greater risk, because they are in the lower leagues for a good reason - either they are still on their way up and have it to prove or they haven't got the accomplishments behind them to walk into Championship jobs. The reason people like Hughton, Warnock, Bruce keep on getting job after job isn't because Chairmen are all boring, lazy, unimaginative. It is because Chairmen want a solid, low risk appointment in the hope of getting promoted because these managers have proven time and time again they can do it. Daniel Farke is a proven promotion winner - nobody can beat his record in his last two Championship seasons - and he's available. So if a club genuinely wants promotion they shouldn't look any further and should give him what he needs to do the job. But we are the sort of Club that looks a gift horse in the mouth or will baulk at a manager making demands on finances or staff. This isn't because we can't afford it or can't attract these people, £15 million a year losses show we can afford it. But people along the line try to win brownie points and try to be too clever about things and more often than not it backfires.

But then the whole process of analysing track records and styles is pointless, as in the case of Ainsworth where the is clear evidence of using an old and experienced squad and unattractive football we can just ignore or overlook those issues because we hope he will do it differently here. Any other manager in the world could try to do things differently. Trouble is we don't know if he can, because he never has before. Most won't be bothered as winning football trumps pretty football but I'm just going off the ingredients Mowbray said we needed which I assume Venkys and Pasha will want from the next one. Especially a close relationship with the academy.

All those who attach importance to developing youth and relying on our academy or playing attractive football are going to struggle to reconcile that with a desire to appoint Ainsworth. If there is one manager and team that doesn't play that football and doesn't have a young side it is Wycombe. Of course he 'might' change if he comes here but so might anyone else in the world. Seems unlikely to me if he's done it a certain way at Wycombe for a decade and it works for him.

I've booked trains but am wary that I'll have to check nearer the time, cba with a bus replacement service.

Think there are engineering works on the main line. Or at least a risk of them that weekend. Probably won't know for sure until a couple of weeks before.

I'd be delighted with Farke, very pleased with Carvahal, optimistic/satisfied with Hughton and underwhelmed but optimistic with Ainsworth. I don't think any of them will get it. Both because they would cost too much, don't have what our lot are looking for and even if we got them around a table they'd probably run a mile after listening to Waggott and Pasha. My bet is on Liam Manning but think he will be the very best we get. Hope I am wrong because mess this one up and League One will be on the horizon again.

With respect, this club has almost everything that a manager like Dyche or Farke would want from their next job. Neither are likely to get a PL move, certainly not in the near future. Farke hasn't managed now since last year and had a spell in the Russian wilderness at Krasnodar, so he's nuts if he thinks a solid Championship club is beneath him, This club SHOULD see decent managers queuing up. All the ingredients are there other than the ownership and board situation. Other than the parachute clubs nobody in this league should be able to chuck money around. We are also in the fortunate position of having sold Armstrong last summer and have Brereton this to cash in on to fund our overhaul. The owners might decide to trouser the proceeds and go cheap and cheerful again which is more likely than not, but if they did wake up and do the right thing then we have plenty to offer.

Looking on the positive side there are two managers linked here out of the equation which I'm not in the slightest bit fussed about. But yeah, Birmingham supposedly a crisis club and being taken over yet seem to be ahead of us. Not sure what is going on there as heard rumours of wealthy owners coming in and also mentioned Bassini and Sullivan involved which could be a disaster for them.

Plan going forward and footballing structure. Two things I'd be surprised if there were at Rovers and certainly not an announcement to the public in May about. It will be Grayson/Dunn, Adkins, Venus or Mowbray in the seat come pre-season having to work with Maggott and Suhail to rebuild the squad on a shoestring. No plan or structure to be seen.

Seen a post on twitter claiming that Venus is also leaving but Johnson and Lowe staying. No surprises but if true forget about Farke, Dyche or anyone decent. Nobody like that will be told who he has to have on his staff

Dyche had a place down Calderstones way so wouldn't be surprised to see him knocking about in that area.

Unless we are appointing a D of F or Sporting Director then we need an established operator in the dugout. There are too many issues and too much of a void for a rookie to be stepping into it and learning on the job and taking those sort of risks. It needs someone who knows the demands of working at a big club and of Championship football. The risk would be drastically reduced if the owners installed a chairman, ceo, sporting director, board or similar who could run the club and let a younger or less experienced bloke focus on the team, but that isn't going to happen.

So another day gone, now 72 hours since the final game of the season and still not a peep from the club or owners about the manager. Disgusting, disgraceful, unprofessional, and taking paying customers for fools. Why would anyone want to work for an organisation that can't or won't even have the decency to release a statement about a manager after 5 years in charge?

Kenny Jackett hasn't managed in the PL. Swansea, Millwall, Wolves, Rotherham, Pompey, Orient - the highest he has been was top half Championship at Millwall/Wolves. He has spent most of his career in League One. He has 3 promotions from League One and if we were a League One side would be a strong option as he has a good record. But he's certainly not an appointment for a Championship side looking to go anywhere good. The only boxes he ticks are that he's available, affordable and might be a safe pair of hands in terms of avoiding relegation. Ryan Lowe is at Preston. Not going to leave them to come here nor would I want him to. Passionate, popular, homeboy are not attributes that should be remotely relevant to us bringing in a new manager. And I'm afraid suggestions of Davidson and Reid are just more from the ex-player brigade both of whom have it all to prove as managers before we should hand them the keys to Brockhall. I'm not sure where the fuss about Reid comes from, given he went on to represent the dingles after being with us I wouldn't have any sentimental view on him coming here.

I'm a big fan of Gerrard's after their win on Saturday. Just hope he gets them sorted out for the home leg next week....

There's positives and negatives to Waggott being involved in a managerial appointment. Positives - that at least he has some experience in football, even if incompetent he should have some understanding of the Championship, the club and fanbase and be able to use that to come up with some sort of reasonable shortlist. Negatives - he's a buffoon, has no authority and doesn't control the cash. So in some ways better having India's involvement in this and cutting him out of the equation.

There's the possibility that we haven't had an announcement because Venkys still want him to stay and are working towards that happening. The only thing worse than that possibility is we haven't had an announcement because nobody at the club knows what Venkys want.

I think Neil is a decent manager. I think he went through a similar process at PNE to that Mowbray went through here, whereby he had 3 seasons at it in the Championship, but then things just reached a natural conclusion, he recognised this as did the club and they parted company. No fuss, no animosity, no drama, just thanks for over 3 years of hard work, accept time for a change, go off and have a rest. That is what should have happened with Mowbray at 2-3 points in the last 24 months but due to the joke setup we are there was and is nobody at the Club to apply any sort of process, decision making or authority to this, and so Mowbray was instead allowed to continue unabated through horror spells where seasons have been derailed.

Hughton wouldn't be my first choice but it would be an appointment I could firmly understand and get behind, and I would have some confidence he could take the club forwards, which is more than can be said for most of the names mentioned so far. If he had never gone to Forest, or had left in the summer before their nightmare start to the season, I think most people would have been very happy to have him here, as his reputation prior to August/September 2021 was outstanding at Newcastle, Birmingham and Brighton. I think he's an intelligent operator who has more sense than to launch himself into any old job just for the sake of getting back into it. Not one I think will happen. He won't have the right 'connections' for Venkys.

When none of those names get spoken to and / or Mowbray gets a new deal Nixon will come with his 'change of budget' claims to cover for it.

Going to be a lot of disappointment on here when they eventually announce Mowbray is staying. Probably take them a few weeks but I think this is the inevitable conclusion to this saga.