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I would hope that this appointment of someone with significant clout as a player (Champions League / UEFA Cup winner, Denmark legend) will count for something - hopefully it acts as some sort of pull for potential signings and can teach our existing crop a thing or two. I don't have any particular issue with his appointment. If he hadn't had his 2 seasons of success at Malmo recently I would be concerned, but his time with Malmo certainly matches or betters CVs of other European coaches who have arrived in the Championship recently. For example Kompany with the dingles hasn't managed to win anything with Anderlecht who are giants in their league, Farke and Wagner were only reserve team managers, Frank had worked in Denmark and not won anything. So no particular issues on giving him a chance there, he's certainly got enough on his CV to merit a shot at it. My concerns go beyond which individual gets the managers job. - The structure and mechanics of our new 'setup' - in the past the way to get funding and things done here was to go straight to the source of power and funds - India - Kean, Bowyer and Mowbray did that quickly and were the only ones who managed to last here with any reasonable transfer backing. I am worried that without this we are going to be extremely limited as to what we can do and when we can do it as healthy funds will not materialise unless Desai sanctions it. - How much power do Waggott, Pasha and Broughton have? For example if Tomasson turns out to be a disaster and we are struggling for survival does anyone have the power to sack him and pay up his multi-year deal, or is this something that has to be done by India in their own good time? - Getting the squad into shape for the new season. I get the obsession with using the academy where possible but there are more important things here than ensuring certain players get their breakthrough. At the least we need to ensure we are equipped to survive this season, not a foregone conclusion, and for that there has to be good, solid recruitment and quickly. As per paragraph above I am not confident that this will happen with the resources available. - the setup of old - manager running everything and reporting to India once a year - needs tipping on its head. I am certain of that because under the old system the manager was an indespensible and bulletproof component regardless of results. That has to change. Tomasson needs to be able to focus all his efforts on first team games and issues, and live or die by results on the pitch. If he's good then we are all happy, if he's rubbish then he will need replacing quickly not another unsackable situation. - the coaching staff - if Tomasson is having staff imposed on him this is concerning. If he arrives and doesn't like the people here he must be allowed to replace them. If they won't even allow this insignificant cost and step then we have big problems.

I've lost interest the more time has passed since it became clear that the Club was unwilling or unable to agree to the removal of Mowbray's coaching staff. If that is for footballing reasons then we have Venkys, Pasha or Waggott imposing staff on managers who are better qualified to judge such things. If this is for financial reasons we might as well go home because the cost of doing this is chicken feed in the scheme of things. If we have undertaken this 'search' on the basis that contenders for the job have to agree to work with those already here then we have not undertaken a thorough search. We have unnecessarily restricted and hindered our options. Tomasson may be good, may be bad, I don't really care. The incompetents above him and Mowbray's staff below him are still here which is a bigger issue IMO. I'll wish him the best, it's certainly a more 'interesting' appointment than the dross we've seen on the list but it also isn't an appointment that suggests excitement or ambition either.

Broughton might just be a convenient one to blame. After the Lenihan and Nyambe debacles I'd be surprised if even these moronic owners hadn't started asking questions of Waggott. Bringing in a Broughton on a relatively cheap deal, buying a couple of years whilst he settles in for 'the journey' and then pointing fingers in his direction if more goes wrong should see Waggo through to comfortable retirement.

I think there is a considerable difference between a Marketing Manager / Head of Marketing and a Commercial Director. We haven't had a Commercial Director since Dave Biggar resigned some 6-7 years ago. That is the real issue and problem here. Marketing managers and the like - Greg Coar and co. - have a much smaller remit and in my humble opinion this is a central reason why our sponsorship and commercial performance has been so poor.

Pandemic, cost of living crisis, no PL football, small towns - all the excuses the apologists usually come with demolished thanks to our neighbours. Myths busted All it takes is some understanding and treating people properly.

Tomasson strikes me as one who as I said earlier is desperate to resume his coaching career and who seems to have been throwing his hat in the ring all over the place. I'm a bit concerned by him. Not sure what it is but see little there to give me any confidence, though I would take him over many of the names involved at this stage. Complete shambles of a club but some will be so desperate to see some conclusion to this exhausting process they won't actually be bothered who we get as long as it is someone.

Probably, though I'd say our budget is too low rather than all the potentials are too high.

I'm not renewing before the deadline. I'm in no rush. I'll happily pay the extra if I see evidence of a Club that backs up words with actions. You might get away with silly beggars stuff when charging low end prices but if you want to charge top end prices I expect to see top end action and product. If not then I might not bother. My two mates definitely aren't doing so I'll be on my todd if I do unless I relocate which I'm not particularly keen on doing.

It's clear JDT is eager to yet a job. He's been out of work for over 6 months and has, supposedly, been in the running now for QPR, Hibs and Rovers this summer. I am always wary about this for two reasons. Firstly I suspect someone at his end is throwing his name into the reckoning as he's desperate to get a job. Secondly because if there's truth to our interest I wonder how much of it has come from us identifying him and how much has come from him throwing himself at the vacancy. I suspect the answer will lie in the make up of his coaching staff and if he's willing to play the game here. I'd prefer him over most of the names left on the list at present although to be totally honest I'd be underwhelmed. It would be intriguing but not one that would fill me with confidence.

I dont think we will get a foreign manager. Too expensive. Too complex. Probably too ambitious. There's a reason we've only ever got one foreign manager in Berg and that was because of his playing days with us. This is a small time jobs for the boys corner cutting pound shop operation. With that in mind it will be someone local, cheap, desperate and happy to work alongside the other pound shop people already in place.

23 league games. Their attendances are average 20 odd thousand ours average about 14 thousand. 23 x say 10000 is 230,000 extra people a year. Average £20 a ticket that's less than £5 million a year. Very rough figures but shows that alone does not make a game changing difference. Then we need to recognise that our attendances are artificially low due to self sabotage and negligence and could easily be 2 or 3 thousand a week higher as Preston and Bolton will show this season So all in all maybe a third of Adam Armstrong's money.

So if that happens we are only following part of our own plan. You mention selling players and reinvesting. But there hasn't been any reinvestment of funds received from Armstrong. Nor have we sold to reinvest on Lenihan and Nyambe because we've refused to pay them the going rate. Then the other issue - according to the Club and local media we wanted to keep Lenihan and finances weren't the issue last week when he was waiting to see who the new manager was going to be. So we were trying to keep that 28 year old and allegedly made him a good offer. Finally you mention bringing in a loan to replace him. That isn't consistent with 'the plan'. It's just once again doing things on the cheap short term solution.

Not necessarily all financial on Lenihan despite the usual Facebook and Twitter culprits attempting to portray him as a mercenary moving only for a payday. No, I'm sure 5 minutes on the phone with Chris Wilder, proven ambitious manager building for an immediate promotion assault and then a look at the uncertainty at Rovers as to whether we plump for Warne, Ainsworth or someone else as the weeks tick by and the talk about journeys starts again. Might even be worth a pay cut

It's not a question of what is sustainable. Its a question of what is allowed under the rules. People on here have been beating the FFP drum for years, advocating the importance of selling players at big profits to trade. Well we've done that with Armstrong and Brereton yet I'm supposed to believe that despite the good work done on those players and massive funds received that we are still at a massive disadvantage and unable to compete with .... Middlesbrough? We talk about the Brentford model yet reinvestment and retention of key players on robust contracts essential to their model... we haven't done that here. Selling players and reinvesting is precisely how Brentford competed and won promotion... not by letting key players leave on frees to rivals. So it is sustainable and is a route to competing. Middlesbrough's income may be greater than ours ... but they only play 23 home games a season like we do. They aren't getting big crowds on every weekend. As I say it matters not if we have a big sale every year to two to wipe out the difference. I'm not sure what you are on about at paragraph 3. Of course losses matter, FFP is based on profit and loss, central to which are income and expenditure. Their income might be much higher but so are their outgoings, or at least they should be given the massive cuts at Rovers since last year. How many big earners left now?

So what about the £20 million we have brought in from selling Armstrong and the forced sale of Brereton that will have to happen? That money wipes out comfortably any revenues Middlesbrough have that we don't. That's before we get onto wage bills. Any guesses what theirs is compared to ours now? No this comes back to willingness. Gibson wants to spend and will get around FFP to do do. Venkys don't want to spend, will use FFP as a convenient shield and have slashed the budgets again as they did in 2015-16. Mowbray himself alluded to it in his parting comments. We've just got to hope the outcome to these cuts is different to 2017. I don't see much reason for optimism on that

Is this why we have our academy? To grow, develop and polish up players so they can be cherry picked and lured away by fecking Middlesbrough on free transfers in the prime of their careers? If so we'd be better ditching the academy altogether.

The unfolding crisis of today - managerless, confused, skeletal squad and key players walking away for nothing- is a crisis that has been left to grow for the last 2 years. The owners and their stooges have done nothing to deal with it - and look what happens. It's going to take more than the appointment of a good talker to convince me all is in order. I'm getting flashbacks to 2016.

Why? Venkys are richer than Gibson.

Middlesbrough have an owner who wants to invest and wants his club to improve and progress. That's how they continually attract good managers and good signings - because Gibson will pay for it. Notice despite lots of hot air that they are taking our captain away by paying him more the Spectre of FFP goes quiet. It goes quiet because we've been told that big spenders like Boro will get their FFP comeuppance eventually (they havent) whilst measures taken at Rovers are entirely suitable to avoid FFP trouble (they havent). Meanwhile we've to find a player as good as Lenihan with no money and no manager. I've been predicting this one for months yet now we've lost a multimillion pound asset to a rival for nothing and have a big hole to fill. Meanwhile said rival is a promotion favourite and has its house in order. Despite the inevitably of it all I'm still bitterly disappointed and let down by this Club. I'm just expecting another hammer blow with the manager appointment. It never ends but I'm sure Waggo will be out from his hiding place soon to try and convince fans #we'vedoneallwecan.

Not really interested in what is said. Waggott has said plenty and delivered little, Paul Senior was the best talker going and had fans eating out of his hands in the lounges before games, yet did little and left. Proof will be in the pudding. First up - new manager. Let's see what he delivers. Second up - transfer window - a lot to be done Third up- longer term. Will he have power and decision making ability or just another voice to put further distance between the owners and fans.

Whether or not this Broughton is any good of more importance is that he is given the tools and freedom to do the job. That means that he should be central to the manager appointment and should be judged on it. I hope he has been contributing to the manager 'search' because if not this is likely to be a problem from the word go. He will also have to direct in conjunction with the loons in India, their messenger man and Waggott so let's hope he's given some power and autonomy otherwise there's little point in this.

Warnock sounds willing to come out of retirement to join Barnsley. I'd rather give him a season and do this again next year than hand a 2-3 year deal to these dire names.

In 2015 or 2016 a joke appointment could be shrugged off. Still early days, still learning, still cheap tickets so people would buy and take the risk. 6 years on we've had Coyle, League One and are now one of the most expensive clubs in the division. Game has changed. Not sure I can play it any more.

Looks like I'll be finding something else to spend my £600+ on this year. If the best they can come up with is the bloke many fans have obsessed over because he's a 'Blackburn lad' and a serial Championship failure working at Rotherham I'm afraid the lot of them want sacking. The club supposedly wanted certain criteria meeting: Championship experience - both Ainsworth and Warne have that - 4 seasons 4 relegation Track record of progressing youth players- certainly don't have that at Wycombe and I don't think Rotherham do either? Reputation for playing decent football? Wycombe and Rotherham two notorious for their physicality and directness. But hey, both cheap, local, would be grateful for the job so that ticks the boxes here.

The lack of communication from our so-called CEO since last season has been nothing short of a disgrace. First he stayed silent as Mowbray was left to face the press whilst the season was still going on. It then took over a fortnight between Mowbray saying he was leaving before the Club finally released a short statement confirming what we all knew. A month has gone by since without any communication. No interview, quotes, anything. Appalling.