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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/steven-gerrard-next-blackburn-manager-34676046 Sorry if this makes anyone throw up.
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Correct, Bowyer left on 10th November 2015 and Lambert was announced on 15th November 2015. Coyle was sacked on 21st February 2017 and Mowbray was announced on 22nd.. JDT left on 9th February and Eustace was announced or certainly in place the same day. JDT was barred from his pre-Stoke press conference and Eustace was in the stands and on the touchline for that game. I suppose by the same token Mowbray's drawn out departure was confirmed on 11th May 2022 which then gave rise to a delay of over a month to mid-June before JDT was confirmed.
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Derby sacked their manager on Friday and I was told straight after that in the evening that Eustace was top of their list. Eustace has today confirmed the first communication with Derby came on Friday. By Saturday he was the clear favourite for the job and the 'official' approach came on Sunday by which time every Tom, Dick and Harry knew he was going. So the club should already be nearly a week into their managerial 'search'. It's also clear that he wasn't very happy prior to his departure so you would hope/expect that the club had some sort of preparation or plan for this eventuality. Whilst no appointment could be confirmed until after the Eustace departure was rubber stamped there is nothing that has stopped us from speaking to options, discussing terms and agreeing things in principle. To me it seems concerningly quiet and laid back considering the importance of what is at stake here.
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The thing that concerns me about someone like Wellens is that whilst he has done very well at Orient it is just totally incomparable to here. At Orient he's been able to build them up from League Two, good backing from their owner, assembled a squad and style of play, built up momentum over the last couple of years. None of that relevant to us under these owners - he won't get backing, he won't get opportunity to assemble a squad, and most importantly we aren't looking for that between now and May in any event.
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I've already nailed my colours to the mast on that with suggesting Warnock and I remain convinced in our situation he would be ideal in terms of experience, short termism and accustomed to making an immediate impact. For me it literally ticks every box at this stage of the season. It also buys us a few months to think and assess options to come in during the summer rather than rush into handing a 2-3 year deal to someone now. Beyond him I'd throw everything at Allardyce but not sure he'd take it really, and agree that his powers have probably dwindled in the last few years but I'd love to see how it went. As above would at the very least give us the benefit of 3 months of time to plan for what on earth we are going to do when the squad is wrecked in the summer. After those two I'd be struggling for suggestions that tick the boxes, I'm open to the suggestion of Carvalhal and think he would have an instant impact but can't see it happening. We're in a mess - because normally you'd want time to assess and speak to options and plan for a critical summer but in our league position with games coming fast we don't have that time and need to seize this opportunity.
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The power of a good performance and result should never be overlooked. Doom and gloom all week gives rise to optimism and hope after an excellent performance and result. The difference between how people feel after a good away win compared to how it would have been had we narrowly lost is massive. In the end it makes the position that bit better going into the run-in, and ticks off a tough away game at a top 6 rival as well. What it shouldn't do is lead to daft suggestions that we simply leave things as they are until the end of the season or give Lowe the job. What it really needs now is for a MANAGER to come in, quickly, and keep things going until the summer. No projects, no new styles of play, no 'long term plan', just 14 cup finals to squeeze everything out of this group and I think that requires an old head who knows the requirements of the run in. We are still scarred by three previous play-off collapses at this time of year and handing the job to a novice or manager with one eye on a summer rebuild I think risks letting it fizzle out. None of the names I can see on that bookies list - other than Steve Cooper who we won't get - suggest to me that they are solely focused on getting into the top 6 this season. It is a mixture of people with zero experience of managing in this situation, people who have mediocre recent records or people used to managing in different circumstances like O'Neil at Wolves or Carsley with the U21s.
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I'm not sure 'Suhail' or Steve give a toss to be honest. They get their wages regardless and it seems to me get probably some sort of bonus or enhanced pay if they can cut costs every year. Relegation of course causes all sorts of issues because it means the owners have to find millions more and ticket/commercial income plummets which could disrupt their little arrangement. I remain convinced that it was relegation to League One and the issues that created that led to Mowbray getting an audience in India and establishing influence over the bigwigs there. Ever since then 'Suhail' has done his utmost to stop that and ensure he is the only link to India. If the Indians suddenly realised we were back in the PL, global profile, mega money, dozens of additional requirements in terms of facilities, management, far bigger crowds - they might even start to take a dollop of interest themselves and it's all just extra work and a headache that neither of these jokers want. They're both already well above their stations here and are lucky to be anywhere near running a Championship club, and they will know it.
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Probably the same reason these owners are content to let the club rot for 10 years+ and do nothing to improve or change it. I suspect the people making the day-to-day decisions down there are quite content as they are, collecting their wages as a middling Championship club going nowhere every year. PL football changes everything - pressure, media, scrutiny, and probably leads to the owners taking more interest and perhaps bringing outsiders into the equation. Shadow and slippery have a nice little number going for themselves here and bosses who couldn't give two hoots either way.
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I suspect Rovers are ensuring that whoever takes over here doesn't get this week to prepare the team thereby wasting tonight and a home game against the bottom club. The less games the new man gets the less likely it is we get near the top 6, which is something they are obviously keen to avoid.
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The immovable object. An atom bomb could go off on the Ewood pitch and he'd still be there. I'm just even more relieved I didn't bother taking time off work to travel tonight. The thought of him 'leading' the team with Mowbray in the opposite dugout smirking away is horrific.
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O'Neil makes no sense whatsoever. None. Other than he's available. He's no experience of promotion pushes or Championship, a career win of about 30% and there is absolutely no reason other than a hope that he will be a good option for us right now. He's also still probably collecting his Wolves 3 year deal pay-off. Karanka has barely managed for the last 4 years save for very short spells at Granada and in Israel. His last two jobs in England - Forest and Birmingham, were terrible. Carvalhal has a decent CV albeit a ridiculous turnover in clubs. More importantly requires compensation so is a non-starter even if he'd drop a side competing for European football to come and work here. Wicky we know next to nothing about other than WBA talked to him and then it broke down.
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Karanka just dismal after heavy spending at Middlesbrough, Birmingham and Forest failures and short spells in Europe. Someone on here wisely deduced he could be an option from Middlesbrough / Gestede links. Carvalhal knows these gangsters from previous negotiations, is under contract at Braga and has been involved in European competition this season.
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If reputational risk was at the forefront of their minds, combined with a desire to cut funding, they would hand the club over or sell it to someone else and get out now whilst we are still a Championship club, interest is higher and the damage of another relegation inevitably comes. If they were interested in their reputation keeping the club indefinitely in a zombie like state with unhappy fans isn't going to do their reputation any good.
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All part of the plan. Waste another two games, against a top 6 'rival' and bottom of the league at home and then by the time we get around to appointing a new manager he's got little chance of getting us into the top 6. Not our fault because Derby took a few days to sort the Eustace deal out and that's out of our control.
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It's not that surprising. With them having their game tonight he was never likely to be ready in time for that so they'll be waiting for that to be out of the way then announce it tomorrow ahead of their game on Friday. Rovers know what is happening and this 'delay' if you consider it that does nothing to stop Rovers agreeing terms with a new manager and having him in Blackburn ready to sign. Just more excuse making when we're sat doing nothing to ensure the season isn't derailed. Conclusion - they're quite happy to see it derailed - Eustace knows this.
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So why aren't we sorting those three out? Should be easy in theory. Or maybe the whole plan here is to leave it as late as possible and treat them as shoddily as possible that they do the same as Lenihan and Rothwell, conclude that their future's belong elsewhere, then get something sorted elsewhere and then the club can shrug shoulders and play the victim card that the players had their heads turned. 'We did all we could' etc. Well no because you'd have been sorting these contracts out last year if you were serious about it.
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If we were a normal sensible properly run club I've always liked Nigel Clough and think he'd be a good option for us. But we aren't and he's not going to work for liars and spivs at Ewood.
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Oh I fully agree, I found the anti-Allardyce stuff ridiculous and have never taken much interest in 'styles' of play. All about the results from here and then the owners and board can smash the team to bits in May if we miss out. But there are plenty who obsess about such things and Harris is a bit like Rowett - boring yet effective at this level.
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A safe pair of hands but not long ago Millwall were giving him stick for his style of play. Might upset one or two here.
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Warnock has said he's retired every time he's been out of work for the last 10 years, he keeps on coming back because he can't resist it when he gets the phone call. I remember when we had talks with him in 2016 before insanely appointing Coyle instead - there were folk on here saying Warnock only had 1 year left in him before retirement so we should avoid - he carried on for another 8 years after that. I'm pretty sure he'd love it for 15 games and a free shot at another promotion. Nothing to lose. Allardyce has never been able to resist a hefty contract or lure of a bonus - he took the Leeds job in almost impossible conditions because they offered him a mega bonus to keep them up, pretty sure he'd do the same here if the package was right, but I agree I think his best days are behind him and it's a while since he was involved in the chaos of the Championship.
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Fully agree. We are looking for the best man to come in NOW and deliver over 16 games or whatever we've got left now. Not the summer. Not a 'style of play' Not 'working with young players' Not 'building for the future' Or any of the other claptrap and soundbites that people often come out with which are totally out of the question at this operation, unwilling or unable to even offer improved deals to its few quality proven players beyond this/next summer. I'm already annoyed that we're going to West Brom without a manager - we should have had someone in immediately. We've tossed off January due to a dismal and negligent approach to transfers and now are risking tossing off two more games this week whilst we pretend to conduct a managerial search. This summer is going to be a disaster, everyone knows it, the club are actively preparing for it by running everyone's contracts down and not signing anyone for the long term. Is it really too much to ask to throw the Eustace compo to Warnock or Allardyce and offer them a couple of million bonus if they somehow get us up? At the very least it would be entertaining even if it ended in failure.
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Waggott's response to this departure has been to cobble together a pitiful club 'statement' that ludicrously claims to have invested heavily in January - this the same bloke who brags publicly about hiring a new bus and repairing the lifts in the Blackburn End - just total nonsense that anyone with half a brain can deduce. He's also been busy ensuring that Alan Nixon and no doubt other friendly plants in the media spend their time this week circulating anti-Eustace propaganda. It's working already and he's not even been announced at Derby yet. That's what he's good at - manipulating the narrative to suit his and his paymasters. Give it a week or two, a new managerial appointment of the latest through the revolving door under false expectations/promises and the majority of our fanbase will be over this and looking forward to 'getting behind the lads FFS'. Consequence is that Venkys, Suhail and slippery Steve get away with it, pocket the compo and buy themselves another year until the next bloke finds out what they are really like.
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Or.....one season in League Two where he had a very solid budget at Forest Green, better than most of their rivals Yes ignore Watford as not there long enough Luton...inherited a side just outside the top 6 and doing very well already under Nathan Jones, rode the crest of the wave and got them through the play-offs, but since then they've been relegated and are now on track to potentially go back to back down to League One. So really only half a season at Luton that stands out as genuinely impressive.
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Edwards looked to me like he was in the middle of some sort of breakdown at Luton earlier this season and let it not be missed that the reason they are stuck in a relegation battle is because of their dismal form under him and he was totally out of ideas. Evatt a similar story at Bolton, although he did a good job in the lower leagues for a few years since the end of last season he has just looked totally lost and has come out with all sorts of odd comments and behaviour. Bolton fans were largely glad to see the back of him. Lowe - never liked him and something clearly not right to leave PNE 1 game into the season. Preston fans breathing a sigh of relief when he went.
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What do you think caused all these 'facts' that you have listed? Do you genuinely think he's just decided to drop a side in the top 6 the week after another pathetic transfer window closed to go and have another relegation battle for the fun of it? Or perhaps he has been forced into jumping ship, like JDT was, due to intolerable conditions brought about by the worst owners in English football?