Yes, Dack unavailable the others decent

Travis is brilliant. Class act. The rest other than Armstrong and Tosin? Pfft Time for changes but Venkys are 6 months behind.

No I hadn't heard of him. But he had coached in the French top division and at international level. A bit different to reserve teams. I just want our next manager to have some sort of pedigree or track record of success. I don't particularly care what his title is, whether he is from Barnsley or Brazil. Just to have some belief that it might be successful and that we have some idea what we are doing as a club. Following the old mantra of promote a coach from within because it is easy, cheap and the fans will buy it is in my view a disaster waiting to happen.

Forest and Derby have spent millions and appointed high profile managers. So why don't we do similar whilst also bringing a few through from the academy? Derby also rumoured to have broken the FFP rules you are so afraid of.

Champions of Europe? Must have missed that one. We've won more than anyone outside the top division including yourselves so I suppose I agree big clubs will always be big.

Yes it is a myth. Nobody has been punished even when deliberately breaking the rules. If you are correct in the way to do things then how come nobody else has done it? The only way to sort our finances out is promotion. We need to do everything possible to achieve that. Effectively becoming a glorified academy to sell players to balance the books is not only unsustainable but will pretty much guarantee promotion won't happen. And we will still lose millions a year. McCarthy was managing the Irish national team a couple of months ago and in a normal world would be leading them to euro 2020. Not bad for yesterday's man.

Every manager that gets interviewed will have the necessary qualifications. John Coleman will have similar coaching badges to Jose Mourinho. Many clubs don't have an interview process. They identify who they want and headhunt them. Man City didn't have interviews for their manager. Their owners wanted Guardiola and did what was required to get him. Its only those clubs who don't really.know what they want or what they are doing who run interviews to help them decide.

No we don't. We need a manager/head coach who can get us promoted. It matters because every season we don't go up the club is another £15 million in the red and closer to oblivion. We haven't got time to gamble on experiments and youth and play youngsters to increase their values. If they are good enough then a manager will play them. Just like Mccarthy, for example, did many times at Ipswich. Why does Johnson offer a better chance of youth progression? Surely the key is a manager who knows how best to phase them in. Our 'situation with FFP' is a myth. No other club has appointed their reserve team manager as a solution to combat it. I would say Mccarthy and Pulis would do better with this squad, yes. Their records at this level suggest that is likely because they've been there and done it elsewhere.

Any recent Championship division coach to manager examples? Qualifications mean very little in football management which is a world unto itself.

So you think in 2020 with these owners that we are capable of replicating what Liverpool did 40 years ago? It doesn't work, it won't work. Its so predictable. Appointments through convenience and emotion. I want to get to the Premier League as quickly as possible not gamble our status on experiments.

Sounds like there's a chance that the Hong Kong bloke who recently passed the EFL fit and proper test to take over Wigan might not even exist! Would really hammer home just what a disgrace the EFL are if they have allowed a takeover by a fictitious person.

Perhaps now Barton will finally be put on trial. Outrageous that the 'incident' took place well over a year ago and nothing has happened about it. If I misbehave at a match I get a banning order in a matter of days.

Yes. My question was when was the last time a coach was promoted to manager and it succeeded at this level? Heckingbottom was the division below. Frank had already been a manager just a couple of years earlier. There aren't any others that I can think of. Sometimes I wonder.

Frank had already been a manager in his own right in Denmark. As before, probably not a good idea us trying to copy Brentford when we are a million miles away from their structure. Heckingbottom took over when Johnson had already set them on the way to promotion from League One and finished the job. His record in the Championship at Barnsley and Leeds is abysmal. Totally overrated.

When was the last time a coach was promoted to the managers chair in the Championship and it worked?

https://www.irishfa.com/news/2020/july/damien-johnson-joins-ian-baraclough-s-coaching-staff Isn't clear if he's leaving Rovers or doing both jobs.

I agree with you. His tenure was by no means as bad as some like to make out. Some like to revise history because they didn't like the bloke or the fact he walked out. It might not have been riveting to watch but I could see clear evidence of a way of playing, improved fitness and defensive improvements. Clearly once word got out that he was on his way and we were safe from relegation the end of the season was going through the motions time. As usual though personalities rub off. Seems the order of the day with the owners and down at Ewood/Brockhall is to have someone who is a nice bloke. Such a body on reception likes him because he makes her a brew and has a natter on a Monday morning and the owners like him because he goes to India and tells them how fantastic they are. No matter if results are crap. Give me a win at all costs bloke any day.

Hopefully Hummel or Macron as they put effort in. Umbro and Nike very dull.

Think it was the same sort of story as Eddie Davies at Bolton. Getting on in life, glory days behind him, looking to a future beyond death where his family would need to be provided for and probably they weren't interested in bankrolling Wigan forever. Probably also know that the costs of funding football clubs getting very high even for people like Whelan and Davies who aren't billionaires. Can't imagine he really wants to get involved with it all again at his age. Suspect he might bail them out if they need it but won't want to own and fund them moving forward

Shudder.

I think he inserted the get out clause as he was doubtful from the start that Venkys would come up with the goods and so needed an insurance policy. By the time he'd sold Rhodes, had no money in January and it was becoming clear they weren't going to back him in the summer either he realised what he was up against and got out whilst his reputation was still relatively intact. And it worked for him because a few months later he got the Wolves job. I agree his stock has fallen massively and he's going to be finished if he doesn't get Ipswich back up quickly but I'll never believe he was to blame over Venkys. Not when we look at the rest of the shenanigans that have gone on here. Lambert had a decent reputation to protect and had the sense to ensure he could get out quickly if they didn't deliver. And like with pretty much everything else in their time here they didn't deliver. All talk, no action. Only difference is that all the other managers they've had have been grateful to be in the job and wouldn't have got any other Championship position, so they put up with being mucked around.

We'd have an even lower wage bill if Mowbray hadn't clogged it up with signings that he barely ever calls upon e.g. Davenport and Chapman. Pulis got Stoke up in about 2008 - then established them in the PL, reached the FA Cup final, got them into Europe, did an amazing job keeping Palace up from near certain relegation, turned West Brom around and kept them up and then got Middlesbrough into the play-offs. Not brilliant but a hell of a lot more impressive than Mowbray's last 12 years. McCarthy worked wonders at Ipswich with absolutely no money to spend. Oh for what he could do with the millions we have squandered on project signings. He knows the importance of a mean defence that gives nothing away and doesn't get distracted with airy fairy principles of how the game should be played. All about the results and doing the necessary to get them. Took Ipswich to the top 6 in his first full season and also to 7th the season after on no money at all. Both better than anything we've done in the last 10 years. We also had a chance to appoint Wilder before then e.g. when we brought Lambert in under false pretenses. At that point Wilder would have jumped at the chance to join us. Just needed some foresight and nous.

Well I will be going at 2pm for a couple of pints. Then watching Rovers from 3pm until 4:45pm and then if I fancy a celebratory few to go with the 3 points I might decide to do so.

How on earth is that one going to be enforced then? Are pubs going to start stopwatches when people arrive and force them out on 2 hours even if the place is empty? They won't make any money if so.

You get what you pay for. Leeds were mucking about with Christiansen and Heckingbottom not long ago. Then their owner quickly learned that the road out of this division is to get the right manager and back him. Bielsa brought with him an array of his coaching staff who cost an arm and a leg but the results have followed. Lesson to be learned = don't try to do things on the cheap. Don't appoint a loser like Coyle over a winner like Warnock just because he costs less. Don't force the manager to work with staff already at the club who might not be up to the job.