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Mowbray: Stay or Go - A Poll
JHRover replied to Stuart's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
But we've already used these fabled young players this season. Buckley hasn't done enough IMO. Butterworth has had a serious injury all season. Davenport is 22 soon so not what I would describe as young and for me hasn't done enough. Is he a better bet than Travis and Evans who have been an excellent partnership? Carter was put on the bench as a token gesture by Mowbray who then brought Mulgrew back from his exile when push came to shove and we had no other CB available. if the budget is cut we don't need to pay fees. Good recruitment can be done with free agents but the decent ones will all be snapped up by the time.we get round to it. I'm just curious why a cut to the budget automatically and immediately means we have to sell or throw in the kids. Surely we can keep our best players, free up cash with the deadwood going and bring in a few decent frees and loans rather than nothing? I was talking about Graeme Jones at Luton who was fired during the pandemic and replaced with Nathan Jones. So clubs can afford to change managers despite the pandemic if they feel it is necessary. -
Mowbray is droning on about wanting to copy the possession based styles of the top clubs and this is apparently our route to the Premier League, although he accepts we don't have the budget to do this and that it could take a long time to deliver. Personally I think he is wrong. I think there are different ways to get promoted depending upon where each club is and what strengths you have. Leeds, West Brom and Fulham have spent fortunes, have excellent squads including parachute money funded wage bills and in the first two cases excellent managers and coaching staff. Brentford are a world unto themselves and nobody can copy them. Forest don't play possession based attacking football. Nor do Cardiff, Millwall or Preston. In my view with our resources we would be better placed trying to emulate the likes of Cardiff, Hull and Brighton who got out of this league on lesser resources. The other problem is that even if we did get promoted playing this famed possession style we would then get slaughtered trying to use.it in the top flight. At least a defensively solid and hard to break down unit could go up and grind out results. I don't think Mowbray has the capabilites to deliver either. He certainly can't make us defensively solid and tough to break down/beat. The 'work in progress' stuff is clearly aimed at someone though. Muddled thinking and it will not pay off.
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I don't understand why a change of management represents 'pulling up roots'. At most clubs you fire a manager and his staff and replace with a sensible candidate. Why should getting rid of Mowbray mean that the club is set back years and the progress undone? Surely the plan, owners, board and staff would all remain or is the entire edifice built on Mowbray's presence and it all comes tumbling down without him? We've seriously allowed the future of a multi million pound organisation to depend on the continuing presence of a man who should live or die by results on a football pitch? What sort of club allows such a structure? Sunday league clubs are built on more solid foundations.
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Mowbray: Stay or Go - A Poll
JHRover replied to Stuart's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Since the lock down in March numerous clubs have fired or parted ways with their managers. Woodgate at Middlesbrough, Johnson at Bristol City, Jones at Luton, Clotet at Birmingham. So I don't really buy the suggestion that Mowbray cannot or should not be fired because it wouldn't be affordable. I can see a good argument for keeping the existing staff to maintain stability through potentially choppy months ahead but if the need arises for a sacking there should always be room in the budget for that. You should NEVER keep a failing manager to save money. Arguably Mowbray hasn't or isn't failing but that's a different issue. -
Mowbray: Stay or Go - A Poll
JHRover replied to Stuart's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
We are a Championship club. Lots of people would want to manage us. Why does a cut budget automatically mean that we have to use young players? Why can't we just sign experienced players but on lower wages and fees? -
It isn't that important. I don't think Venkys are running this club properly. I think the latest interviews from Mowbray once again demonstrate that they do not treat this club with the respect and attention it requires and as a result we will be at a constant disadvantage until they either clear off or change their ways (which isn't going to happen after 10 years) Who would be interested in Rovers and why? I have no idea. There is a big wide world out there and lots of people who would spot an opportunity to revitalise a once proud football club which remains a big name in English football and has the potential to dine at the top table again. Why would millionaires/billionaires have bought Leeds, Barnsley, Wednesday, Sheff Utd, Derby, Forest, Birmingham, Villa, Wolves, Cardiff, Reading, Watford, Bournemouth, Southampton, QPR, Fulham and the others over the last few years? Perhaps they would be football fans who want to embark on a project instead of disinterested non football fans who have no clue or idea. Perhaps they would have a business plan to invest to reach the Premier League. I don't know. But I'd like to find out. Sticking with neglectful owners until the end of time whilst the club drifts and shrinks just because we don't know who might be interested isn't a reason. It's like wanting to move house but never putting it up for sale because you don't believe it would sell.
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I didn't ask who might buy us. I asked if you agreed that we need new owners. Newcastle are about to be bought and it is likely Wigan will be taken over soon. Budget decisions will be made within the next week? Do you know something Mowbray doesn't? To me he sounds just about as fed up as he ever has and who can blame him working in the dark for disinterested idiots.
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In which case we need new owners. Do you agree? I challenge anyone to come up with an argument on why this 'model' they work with will ever enable this club to succeed. Coronavirus is everywhere. It doesn't stop business decisions being made. I genuinely, honestly think that the only people with the authority to make the decisions are Mrs Desai and her husband, and the only time they will decide is when their manager flies out to Pune to beg them for more money. They will not even entertain making these decisions remotely hence why Lambert got nowhere Due to Covid 19 and travel restrictions Mowbray and Waggott cannot go out there to grovel and persuade them so the end result is no money. We've seen it all before.
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Mowbray's comments almost identical to those of Paul Lambert in the early part of 2016. The owners are up to their old tricks. Manager and Ewood clueless as to what is going on and we are nothing but an inconvenient afterthought. Wish I could flush £20 million a year away on something so unimportant to me. In another scenario I'd be expecting the manager to resign unless he got answers very quickly. There is no excuse for it. They are a disgrace and how anyone can express gratitude to them is beyond me. I don't think Mowbray will resign. Partly because he isn't the quitter type but also because of the Covid.19 situation making it unchartered territory. He can probably soldier on without new signings, just give Samuel another year. I do wonder how Waggott is going to wangle season tickets if he can't get answers from India. Just ignore it or go silent like he has the last 6 weeks? Very concerning again. I wonder what Suhail is doing today?
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Mowbray: Stay or Go - A Poll
JHRover replied to Stuart's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
If Mowbray wasn't responsible for relegation in 2017 thats fine. Just like Lambert wasn't responsible for Stoke or Ipswich going down yet those are often chalked up against him by some to evidence his managerial flaws. Can't have it both ways. Suffice to say that Warnock's turnaround at Rotherham a few years ago has to be the most impressive survival act that I can recall and that showed keeping us up whilst difficult was not mission impossible. Ever since his WBA days I've seen Mowbray as an enigma of a manager. He clearly has something about him. Not many sustain 15 year+ careers these days and his win percentage even just in England is impressive at over 40% over nearly 700 career games. Not bad at all. He's clearly a well liked man. A good family bloke who loves his job and football. I've never seen anything from anyone at his previous clubs that criticises the man Mowbray and on the contrary he was well liked at WBA despite relegation and loved at Boro. But there's always been a mark against his name for me. As a manager he has always been very idealistic and romantic rather than realistic and pragmatic. There's always some grand dream or scheme going on. -
Mowbray: Stay or Go - A Poll
JHRover replied to Stuart's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I wish I shared Rich Sharpe's confidence that our league position WILL improve on last year and a top half finish is 'almost guaranteed'. We are currently 3 points above Wigan in the bottom half. They are in good form and will probably overtake us. We will get away with that because of their imminent points deduction but that is nothing to boast about. 4 points above Reading and Sheffield Wednesday, who occupy the 15th position we ended last season in. A couple of wins for the Owls or a defeat to Reading on Saturday and both could overtake us. I don't think it is much to boast about considering the problems those clubs have had. Wednesday are often quoted as one of the clubs we are avoiding getting like due to their FFP 'issues' and Reading have also had problems fighting relegation all season. I'm very unimpressed that Wigan could overtake us especially given where we were after the Bristol City win. -
1. We lost Dack before Xmas and knew full well he was out for the rest of the season at the very least. Do you really think that if any of those other clubs had lost their talisman and main attacking threat at that early stage that they wouldn't have used the January window to replace him or at least tried damn hard to? We sat back and did nothing so don't complain about his absence. It was unfortunate but we had the chance to address it and refused to do so. Imagine if we had been 2nd or 3rd when he got injured and we had done nothing. It could easily have cost us automatic promotion. You have to add from positions of strength and go for it, not just play the victim, shrug shoulders and go again next year. 2. Not interested in long balls, tempo or passing statistics. Meaningless just like possession figures. Don't give away cheap soft goals and take your chances when they come. We aren't good at either because we've not addressed those positions properly. We were, in my opinion, pretty awful and very ineffective most of the night. Millwall defended expertly and allowed us to aimlessly pass the ball around with no penetration or goal threat. A familiar story. 3. So we never sack Mowbray because the scouting network requires his continuing presence? We have to rip it up and start again if someone new takes over? Are we a bunch of amateurs here or what? Whilst improvements and investments are welcome there is no evidence whatsoever beside Mowbray's claims that it is actually delivering anything and we've already got the new excuses lined up for this summer. 4. To my knowledge no side assembled the spine of their squad using loans. We are in a worse position because at the end of last season we had Raya under contract and hadn't used up another £5 million on Gallagher. We also have since used up another year without one of our own players bedding into Central defence alongside Lenihan and will have half a defence to rebuild.
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Championship season 2019-20
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Hull v Luton this week. Both sides need a win and if they fail then both will probably go down. Luton have ideal fixtures with us, Hull and QPR last 3. All 3 will be on the beach. Birmingham now safe with that late point. Probable relegation contenders next season unless they appoint a good manager. -
Player of the Season 2019/20
JHRover replied to rog of the rovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Travis for me. Armstrong goal of the season. -
After Saturday we will have 0 season ticket holders. Easy to accommodate then.
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Only a matter of time before a club, probably in the Championship, comes in with a cheeky bid for Nyambe, probably encouraged by his agent. Why not when he is missing out to a mediocre midfielder. With his physique alone he is worth a punt. Rovers will then see the pound signs and in the absence of any direction or communication from India will be persuaded to sell him for a relatively low fee and he will quickly exit stage left with minimal fanfare. That money will be needed by Waggott to keep things ticking over. Mowbray won't be bothered as he clearly isn't a Nyambe fan and it will open up RB to boy wonder for next season. The PR machine will have to go into overdrive though. Selling a promising and popular young player to a rival needs dressing up so expect a Ben Marshall style campaign. First it will be talk about him having his head turned by others, then it will be him refusing to sign a new deal, then it will be Mowbray deciding to sell so to reinvest the proceeds into better signings. None of which will actually be true or happen, but it is the old stunt of shift blame and responsibility away from Ewood and onto the departed player. Next news is we will have idiots at Ewood booing him (Tom Cairney) believing he sought a move away and people on the Internet saying that we had no choice because he wanted out. They think we are all stupid but I and many others have come to learn how they operate and how this works.
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Championship season 2019-20
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
So Luton have Hull away and Rovers at home to play. Two ideal fixtures in their battle to survive. -
7 weeks maximum until kick off for the new season. No season tickets or memberships on sale. No new kits or sponsors. No budget or discussions on next season. No new contracts discussed. Why do we bother?
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The club needs to sell them to be able to buy one. We could have 20,000 folk queuing down Nuttall St for a season ticket for next year and they wouldn't take the money. Idiots.
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Well that was dreadful, but predictable. It's a bad sign when Millwall are what i want us to be - organised, resolute, not pretty but dogged, every man knows his job and a manager with a plan who follows it and it works and who doesnt spend his days banging on about nice football, possession stats or individual development. Oh and still in with a play off chance despite spending nothing on project signings. The second they went 1-0 up i had absolutely no belief or expectation that we would get back into it. They expertly saw the game through to its inevitable conclusion and for all the jargon about possession etc. the reality is that other than the last minute chance we had next no nothing infront of goal and could play until Saturday without scoring. The sign of a good defence and millions wasted in attack. To have the likes of Brereton, Gallagher and Chapman earning god knows what thanks to this manager is shocking. What a weary end to the season. Many pointing to progress but even that isn't guaranteed. Assuming we get at least 1 point from the 6 remaining then we will have beat last season's total and we should finish higher in the table but at that sort of rate it will take 5 years to get to the play offs. Is that really good enough? Compare to the job Rowett has done in 8 months at Millwall with no cash? For me Mowbray has run his course. We seem no nearer any identity, style or finished article than the day we got promoted more than 2 years ago. He's a confused man, an idealist, a dreamer who thinks football is about being nice and pretty and having lots of possession when really the best managers adapt their approaches to the circumstances and work with what they have. Very similar criticisms went his way at all his previous clubs. A good man and a competent manager yet but enough in his locker to get the club to the next level? No.
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Championship season 2019-20
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I will be going back to games as soon as I am able, although I understand why those with health issues or more elderly wouldn't want to risk it. But I'm not desperate for it to happen, I'll wait and go when able but I'm not counting the days go by. But I'm keen and haven't got much else to do in my spare time other than Rovers so that's fine. Others who have less of an interest won't be as willing. I'm with you though - I won't take kindly to being told to jump through hoops and other measures. I expect we are facing up to a collapse in attendances the likes of which we haven't seen before. The club needs to be 100% on the ball in the coming weeks and months to retain as many as possible, tie folk down to the club and not let people drift away never to return. The best way to achieve this is to get season tickets on sale ASAP with incentives to buy now, hand over your money and get people fastened in for when they can return. Simply shrugging shoulders, blaming circumstances and allowing months to pass by where people find other things to do and spend their money on is a recipe for disaster. I could accept the delay if Waggott was busy plotting some radical groundbreaking new scheme but we know more or less what prices will be and it is very unlikely that much will change on last year's offerings. If he doesn't have the authority to decide prices even in unique conditions like these then is he really worthy of the title he has and the salary he gets? -
Championship season 2019-20
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Worrying about excluding people isn't a problem likely to impact us. With a season ticket base of 8000 in a 31000 stadium we could probably accommodate everyone no problem especially if families and couples sit together. Even then I'd wager a large percentage of those 8000 wouldn't want to go due to feeling at risk or simply can't be bothered with the hassle of it all. Not that getting people into the ground or paying their money is something that the owners or Waggott seem particularly interested in or bothered about judging by the silence on tickets. -
Championship season 2019-20
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Well done to Wycombe. Will be an interesting addition to the Championship and far more enjoyable than a Sunderland, Ipswich or Portsmouth coming up. Expect Ainsworth will discover his budget before Mowbray does and can get cracking on transfers which is outrageous. -
The Riverside Stand Renovation Thread
JHRover replied to a topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
The land around Ewood could be put to much better use although if we did get promoted those car parks could be both a blessing and money spinner. Building on it all could cause problems down the line. The 4g facility that the Community Trust went on about doesn't seem to have gone anywhere. I'm sure Euro garages would be keen if we were preparing to sell one of the car parks for development. Getting Venkys to approve season ticket prices and budgets is hard enough. Getting them to approve major facility improvements? Not going to happen. Will sit in someone's pigeon hole for 12 months until it gets forgotten about. -
Championship season 2019-20
JHRover replied to arbitro's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Norwich and Burnley don't have billionaire owners. Far from it they are paupers in football terms and can't afford to gamble. We do.