JHRover

No, just don't enjoy a weekly dose of drivel usually around how good, well supported, formidable the opposition are. I expect more self respect.

They've gone to West Brom and got results, without building Albion up into something special. Mowbray is now making out to be some monumental task when facing their 'passionate' fans.

Huddersfield at home moved to 12:30 for tv so another poor gate

1100 or so sold according to Rovers. Expected a few more to be travelling but maybe the fans are 'intimidated' by West Brom's 'passionate' crowd. I've just about had enough of Mowbray's drivel which is eagerly lapped up by the website and Telegraph. Always putting Rovers down, dampening expectations and promoting our rivals as bigger and better than they are. Wish he would just focus on doing what Neil Harris and Jose Gomes have done recently.

If we get to Xmas and have injuries and suspensions and don't fancy throwing the youngsters in we could simply inform the opposition that we aren't playing and will be postponing the game. The League cannot allow that to go unpunished.

People might argue that it doesn't matter because they are going down anyway but I don't agree. Bolton are the sort of club that even on a limited budget will be able to bring in good quality League One players. Certainly better than what Stanley and Wimbledon can afford. A half decent manager along with a feel good factor of new ownership and they could survive at the expense of other clubs. Can imagine trouble will come then.

I'm bored of the succession of younger end players Mowbray has brought to the club at considerable expense, rarely put out onto the pitch and spends more time publicly criticising them than playing them. Not fit enough, not clever enough, not working hard enough. Why bother signing them?

Hold on, we've just been through a 2 month long summer window and failed to add the depth needed, opting instead to retain Leutwiler and sign only Walton on loan. Why would we bring in a keeper in January? We've had plenty of time to do that. If we sign this Garrett even as a 'stop gap' he will be here until the summer. I disagree with signing players on the hope they'll be here for the season but never be needed. Sign an extra keeper by all means but one good enough for the League and good enough to replace Walton if needed.

So we get to the play offs and Walton picks up an injury. We go into 2-3 season or career defining games with Leutwiler and the 'stop gap's as our keeper options. Personally I'd prefer someone like Ali Al Habsi to call upon like WBA have just signed.

But Walton is less experienced than Raya which is completely the opposite of what Mowbray said he wanted when allowing Raya to leave. I'm glad you've arrived at the crux of the issue. Someone of proven quality would command wages whereas a cheap and cheerful ex-Crewe keeper won't. Do you really expect us to ever make serious progress if we operate on that basis? We're in a position to lavish £12 million out on two young forwards neither of whom play where they should yet we're scrimping on the goalkeeper position signing loans and stopgaps on cheap wages to 'fill in' or 'do a job for a while'.

Why not just sign a goalkeeper good enough for the level we are at now rather than stop gap's?

I'm struggling with this one. We loan our own player out to Northampton then sign this mon as a 'stop gap' 3rd choice keeper. Some come down from Mowbray's proclamations of the summer seeking proven experienced quality and more than one. We've added one inexperienced one on loan, kept Leutwiler on who isnt good enough and now we're going after an ex Crewe stop gap?

Bury will vanish as Hereford, Darlington and Stockport did from the national consciousness. The national media and Sky Sports have taken interest this week because it fills a couple of days of headlines but they'll soon lose interest and get back to talking about people being nasty to Paul Pogba or how many millions Spurs are planning on spending in January. You know, the really important stuff. The only ones who will maintain interest are the fans of the club who will have to either rebuild or do something else with their free time. Even the local politicians aren't that bothered really, they just recognise the positive PR to be had in rallying to the cause now. Havent heard their MP or Council leaders say much over the last 2-3 years as the clubs existence was gambled away. Shame but that's the London-Premier League centric media for you. Would anyone on here be as bothered if it was Crawley or Newport going out? There would be sympathy of course and concern but not on the scale we've seen for Bury because they are just down the road.

Getting a bit fed up waiting for Sky to announce their next batch of TV games. As it stands they have announced up to but not including 5th October. We are down to play QPR away and I want to book the train before the prices go up. I don't want to risk it because knowing my luck they'll move the game for TV. They are supposed to announce the TV games a minimum of 5 weeks before it takes place. That's this Saturday so they're pushing it right to the wire.

Amazing what clubs can do. Reading also restrict away followings to a couple of thousand in half the stand behind the goal and wedge them between the two most vocal areas of home fans. Would be easy for them to move home fans to other parts of the ground and open up the full stand behind the goal for 4000 away followings but they refuse it.

West Brom have failed to win in 3 home games this season v Millwall x2 and Reading, scoring 3 goals. Expect the usual lowering of expectations and bigging up of the opposition but once again this isn't Barcelona at the Nou Camp. Set ourselves up correctly and we can get a result. More mind numbing backward and sideways passing and we won't.

The 'consultants' they brought into the club in the summer of 2017 were accountants. So well placed to advise the owners on a financial strategy but I'm not sure how qualified they were to advise on a footballing strategy. 'Invest in promising young players who will grow in value and be worth a lot more in a few years' isnt a football strategy, it's a business one. In any event the owners already did all that under Bowyer so it is hardly something new to them. Many people have tried and failed to run football clubs on the advice of non footballing people on non footballing agendas. It rarely works. As far as I can see there has never been any football expertise other than the manager they stumbled across and like.

Some heartbreaking interviews on NW Tonight outside Gigg Lane. Normal down to earth football fans who have followed their club their entire lives. Would have been easy to catch the bus to the Etihad or Old Trafford but stick to their local team. Terrible shame. Hopefully now they regroup and rebuild under transparent ownership. The least the authorities should be doing is ensuring that Gigg Lane isn't demolished and built on and is preserved as a football ground for the phoenix club. Doubt that will happen as the suits will have their claws into that for housing in no time.

Nah he's a dingle, based in Blackburn. Never trust a dingle.

Wish we had ball boys who slowed things down and helped the team out when defending leads. The one at Sheffield looked at least 16-17 and was no doubt a youth team player well rehearsed in such things. Our ball boys are young children of Primary school age by the looks of things. We could do the same but don't.

If I were a Bury supporter I'd be wanting to know whether the same processes and levels of patience have been given to both Bury and Bolton or if Bolton have been treated favourably. Next news is the 'EFL' will refuse to comment on Bury FC because they are no longer members of its competition. Another slap in the face. Time for the FA to get involved. If the 'EFL' is really just a competition organiser then it needs to go up a level. The FA are the national association and should have more power to deal with this sort of thing.

What it needs is a wealthy individual to go after Day, Dale and the League and take them to the cleaners and drag them through the Courts. The least that should be done here now is justice and those who have done wrong or failed in their responsibilities to be dragged down too. Sadly we all know that the authorities will commence a cover up operation to shield themselves from further criticism and that will be that. Only ones to suffer will be the club, town and fans.

Another frustrating match with some positives but a feeling of 'what if' at the end of it. Much in similar fashion to the Fulham game not long ago. First half hour I thought we played some good stuff, opened them up and looked dangerous getting forward. The winning of the penalty was just one of a number of nice moves into dangerous areas. Then came the inevitable regression as we cannot sustain the pressure indefinitely although we were still competing well in the game when we fell behind. They probably couldn't believe their luck going in at 2-0 given the balance of the game but sadly that's the way we seem to operate these days - bucket loads of possession, some nice passing and moving around the midfield, some decent play getting forward, but then nothing by way of a final ball or killer instinct. Just wasteful, hesitant or poor decision making - take your pick but it happens every time we get into advanced areas and means we are struggling to convert our possession into goals or even decent goalscoring opportunities. It seems Mowbray's frustrations boiled over which they rarely do which probably sums up the ineptitude of the referee tonight. An abysmal performance from him who I think was just looking forward to an easy and comfortable night out and a routine home win. Sadly not the first time we've had to endure that particular referee and won't be the last. Still major concerns for me about our attacking play and how effective we are at scoring goals. Again tonight for all our possession and positive play we've really not done much to test their keeper. We need to get this sorted because it has now happened in most games this season and it will cost us dearly.

Looks like Bury are going unless a miracle happens. Surprised it has come to this but their finances sound like a complete minefield and their last 2 owners have run them into the ground. Even more gutting for their fans to be given hope on Friday and then turn up at the ground today to get it ready for Saturday. If they do go the biggest problem will be nothing will happen. The Football League, operating under the facade of 'EFL', will merely seek to mitigate the fallout, keep the other clubs happy and ensure a smooth transition. It will be business as usual once they've got back to 72 clubs and the media and sponsors keep the cash flowing in. Bury will be forgotten about just like Stanley, Stockport, Chester, Hereford and Darlington were until they force their way back in. Sky will get back to hysterics about how many hundreds of millions the Premier League clubs are going to spend in January. Then Bury will be a hunting ground for City and United to brainwash the youth into 'supporting' them. There should be root and branch changes to football governance. The only hope is if their local MP forces it into Parliament and it is forced down from government. The pigs in the football trough will carry on regardless whilst the pay cheques continue.

Yeah, think the combination of the League deadline and administrator threat to liquidate the club will have got the message across to all the parties involved and they will get things sorted. It was always likely to take a firm deadline and some tough talk. Nobody wins in liquidation so expect compromises and extensions to avoid that outcome.