Marin Samuel in full agreement. "We might want to have a look at FUP, too — or at least stop making pariahs of owners who wish to invest. If anything is going to pull football through this crisis it is those owners who are prepared to bankroll their clubs because not everyone has the good fortune to be as well-heeled and protected as Manchester United." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8110863/MARTIN-SAMUEL-no-room-random-setback-football-full.html

Why should owners be expected to cover losses over next few weeks and then be subjected to draconian rules? Some clubs are going to be in real trouble and scrapping FUP will boost their chances of securing outside investment. People who want to subscribe to FUP won't buy a club in the current climate. So you have to look for benefactors, etc.

Situations like this (albeit extreme) sum up why FUP does not work. I'm assuming it will be suspended and hopefully that decision will become permanent. UEFA could use the fines they leeched off clubs to subsidise those worst hit but won't hold my breath. If they decide to scrap FUP now it would also help them save face blaming the virus and prevent humiliation from Manchester City lawyers in court.

Bayern fans unveil banner calling Hoffenheim's benefactor a "son of a bitch" and referee takes players off the pitch. Apparently Dortmund fans have done similar obviously happy at selling their best players to Bayern whenever they show an interest. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/29/bayern-much-fans-banners-dietmar-hopp-farcical-finish-bundesliga-hoffenheim?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

True.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephentudor/2020/02/26/leicester-city-supporters-should-be-hoping-manchester-city-take-on-and-beat-uefa/ Especially after Vichai was fined and UEFA offered fake sympathy after his death.

Probably no coincidence that MCFC have chosen to file FUP appeal today. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/11943561/manchester-city-appeal-uefa-european-ban-to-court-of-arbitration-for-sport

Marega of Porto walks off the pitch due to racist abuse from opposing fans. UEFA getting the fine ready...for Marega.

Well they should pay other players in Euros millions to sit out as well. Name their price.

Hopefully the City players in the England squad get paid millions to withdraw from the squad. See how the FUP lovers would like that.

Corporate puppets. Just be on the damn pitch by kickoff.

That would date back to around the early 70's. On the web archive for early BRFCS there was a music file and surprisingly the download worked but this was a few years ago. They played it at the stadium then? It was probably about 40 years out of date in 70's though. Bring it back if the goal is to make Ewood as uncool to younger fans as possible. EDIT-No download needed. Go site index and the exact link is there. https://web.archive.org/web/19970701202345/http://www.brfc-supporters.org.uk/

Brockhall. Yes that's right.

For goodness sake I know there's not much to the ACV other than 6 months notice. The point YET AGAIN is how did Villa do it when there was no notice to the community at all? Trying not to be patronising but people sure make it difficult.

Well Derby County/Villa managed it. Still waiting for an answer on that which perhaps nobody knows but the Rovers Trust should have looked into it right away. It does seem however that there will be notification here if the club chose to take that route. Who would be able to stop Venkys selling it to themselves anyway and who would want to given the situation? Fake bidding war?

Derby County's supporters put an ACV on Pride Park as did Villa's on their own stadium. That didn't stop the "sales" so to speak. So obviously if Venkys are to sell to what is effectively themselves (who else would feasibly buy it besides new owners for this reason?) the issue might not even come up. I'm sure there was little advance warning of the Villa/Derby examples. I've asked this question before and it wasn't expanded on unfortunately. Here's a paragraph from stadiumdb.com. Even if they don't, there's one more issue: facing the fans. Back in 2011 the Localism Act was introduced, which allowed communities (football supporters included) to list buildings as Assets of Community Value (ACV). Villa Park is among stadia which were listed as an ACV. Such move means precisely that the owner cannot sell the stadium without giving the local community a chance of placing a counter bid. And the community, represented by Aston Villa Supporters Trust, was not informed of the transaction until weeks after it was completed. The law has been broken. “The Trust is concerned to read the news today, that despite the recording of an Asset of Community Value on the stadium, a transfer of ownership may have taken place. We are attempting to clarify the details. When they are available we will seek an urgent meeting with the club.” the AVST have written on June 28. If Venkys want to sell it to themselves and it's an effective way of getting round FUP could the ACV hold things up? It was recently noted by the club itself wasn't it?

What do you think? My only real hope is that numerous clubs file a joint lawsuit (perhaps headed by Manchester City) and crush UEFA in court. When they drop it the EFL will drop it.

Also perhaps it's time the coward who leaked the 2004 sacking comes forward or gets outed. I've narrowed it down to two people though and neither have a conscience.

Any mention on Soccer Saturday or did Anderson's mate not allow it? Am I correct in saying Tony's had other health issues in recent years? Sure I can recall someone saying so but not recent enough to suggest same thing.

I know who the characters in my script would be.

As far as I know Clayton never asked for a transfer and prior to doing the ground tours probably wasn't offered a job. He's certainly on a par with Parkes for longevity though in all due respect it's not like people were kicking Tony's door down. So really that gives Clayton the edge for me.

I don't really see much point for the petition other than "backslapping self credit". The club don't do many decent things but the Clayton/Douglas ends are there so why would be any objection to Parkes. Sometimes all people need to do is ask or bring it up at the fans forum.

Good to see some people have decent children.

He knew full well who it was.

I don't believe for a moment that's what Jack Walker thought. Neither am I saying it's what the vast majority thought.