Just now, roversfan99 said:

My point was that neither of us know for sure if he is gloating or just talking nonsense. I specifically said that the only person who knows for sure either way is Mowbray himself, all we can do is try and interpret.

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-mowbray-future-results-20325498

He is clearly aware that the results are not good enough and the fans were become more and more discontent. He specifically said that ""I'm also a realist and I understand that I live in a results-driven business. I'm not hiding from it. I work hard everyday and I understand the consequences of not winning football matches but that is never not my decision."

In another interview, he said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19131704.tony-mowbray-the-bigger-picture-fan-frustrations/

“As you could see, we’re trying to be a possession-based team and when we get it right, we will be at the top of this league at some stage."

I personally believe, and like yourself, I am aware that it is simply my own interpretation, that based on the constant stream of excuses that you touched upon that he repeats ad nauseum, that he is not gloating and more pleading for more time and patience, especially with the fans. To me, that falls on deaf ears because I judge on what I see and we are going backwards, not forwards. I don't doubt that he is trying his best, but his best is in my opinion nowhere near good enough. He has a theory on how to improve which I think is inherently flawed and further hindered by his poor and ill fitting recruitment.

Those quotes came after he originally said it iirc. Maybe someone had had a word?  And he flip-flops form week to week anyway. The fact is he said it. My interpretation is different to yours.

Anyway, you asked for a reason, you got one. If you think he's still in a job on merit, and that it's acceptable that he should think he shouldn't be judged on results, then good for you. If those quotes don't make you angry, given the results he was getting when it was said, then you are obviously Zen. 

But back to your assertion that he's still in a job because Venky's aren't capable of sacking him. That's clearly bullshit. The question is therefore, why is he still in a job? Who would be fighting his corner and recommending he should be kept on? He must have support from influential people because he clearly isn't doing the business on the pitch. And if he knows he has their support is it beyond the realms of possibility that he knows he's unsackable and can therefore say whatever he wants?

Just now, roversfan99 said:

I have quite clearly said that I am well aware that Venkys do not have the interest or the competence to sack managers based fairly on performance.

You have concluded from his quotes that he is purposely gloating or "giving the middle finger" to the fans by talking nonsense, that is not proven to be true just because he hasnt been sacked.

And it isn't proven that he's doing it to cover his own incompetence, as you have stated.  All we know is that he is the first manager in the history of BRFC, and possibly the history of professional football, to state he isn't a 'result-based' manager. That during one of the worst runs in the clubs history. Strange coincidence, especially as he has another 10 excuses he could have just as easily used, and often has....injuries, pitch, ref, money etc.

And Venky's have sacked a lot of managers based on performance. So that part of your post is utter nonsense. 

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Fair enough, I suppose the only person who genuinely knows if what Tony Mowbray said about being a "performance based manager" was sinister gloating about his job security or desperate nonsensical excuses attempting to justify incompetence is Tony Mowbray himself.

Has he been sacked?

Just now, rovers11 said:

If they're gone to Preston and Blackpool then I think it's safe to say they probably won't be mint. I would have both down as big relegation favourites. 

I you don't know who they are it's probably hard for you to judge.

Izzy Brown, Josh Bowler and Sepp Van Den Berg are 3 of the 6 signed by the two clubs. I'll look forward to us signing better. 

Just now, DE. said:

As of now I'd agree, but once pre-season starts the later we sign somebody the less chance they have to bed in with their team mates and take part in pre-season with the club before the season starts. 

Pre-season starts Sunday. Hence why clubs are signing players.

Just now, roversfan99 said:

I just was trying to understand why recycled interview quotes are the final straw, we are clearly going backwards on the pitch which is reason enough for anyone not to attend should they choose. I am just skeptical that these quotes really are the straw that broke the camels back. Although even if they are, fair play.

When he calls himself a 'performance-based' and not a 'results-based' manager he's giving the middle finger to every single Rovers fan who can see through his bullshit and wants him gone. Why? Because he knows he's untouchable. He's just gone on one of the worst runs in the clubs history and he's still in a job. Results clearly don't matter. 

So results might not matter, but words do, and I draw the line at him flaunting the fact he's untouchable with bullshit quotes that undermine BRFC and it's standing as a professional football club in a results-driven business. 

So when he came out with his bullshit that was the final straw for me. That and the training ground fiasco.

Waggott and Mowbray genuinely disgust me. 

Just now, rigger said:

But is the embargo (if it exists) preventing us making signing. Or is it that the budget is preventing us making signings. I doubt if you or I are privy to the answers.

At least you understand the issue now. 

10 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Blackpool have signed an Everton player on a free called Josh Bowler. Everton got him when he was young for about £1.5m. He's an AM who can play on the wing. Would have been perfect for us as he's looks a good player and he's early 20's so would be the perfect age to develop. 

It's a worry if the embargo is preventing us making signings. 

 

Just now, rigger said:

If I didn't get it the first time round, I am not going to get it now. So will you explain it to me.

Just now, rigger said:

So what is, the point that I am missing ?

It's in the original post you quoted. 

10 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Out of interest, why are recycled soundbites the deciding factor in whether you attend?

I dont get why people get so worked up about the nonsense he says. Its usual self preservation bullshit, he obviously doesnt really see results as an irrelevance and he is going to make excuses up.

And thats not me questioning anyones support, I am the first to say that the onus is on the club to increase supporters, whether it is by results/recruitment/management on the pitch or things such as pricing. But I dont get why his interviews are the thing that causes so much anger. If you was to say that you arent attending because you dont rate the manager, you dont like the results, you dont like the owners, the prices are too high, the best players may be sold, the team is going backwards, I would understand any of those, and agree even though I am still going very much in spite of these reasons. But his interviews dont really bother me personally so just trying to gauge where I am going wrong.

If results matter at BRFC, why is Mowbray still be the manager?

3 hours ago, rigger said:

It maybe a blessing in disguise, if it is preventing us making poor signings. Not that I am saying the Blackpool signing is a poor one.

Just now, rigger said:

And all of them could be shit, all signings are a gamble.  

You seem to be missing the point. 

1 hour ago, JacknOry said:

I remember seeing him play against us for Hull when on loan there and thought he was pretty good. On a free that's a good signing for Blackpool. Plus, that 1.5 was the initial fee rising to 4.5m with add-ons. 

He played against our U23's a few months ago for Everton. It was on youtube so probably still there. Looked far too good for that level and led our young LB a merry dance. 

Blackpool have signed 4 already. Nobbers 2 or 3. 

Blackpool have signed an Everton player on a free called Josh Bowler. Everton got him when he was young for about £1.5m. He's an AM who can play on the wing. Would have been perfect for us as he's looks a good player and he's early 20's so would be the perfect age to develop. 

It's a worry if the embargo is preventing us making signings. 

3 hours ago, tomphil said:

But if someone can kid our owners that they might the lad might be put on 25k pwk for the next 4 years !

Yeah, don't think it's a coincidence that BB has become the subject of transfer speculation at the exact same time as Rovers have initiated contract talks with him.

Or maybe I'm cynical and a Prem team really is in for him...

Rovers to host Morecambe in the Carabao Cup | rovers.co.uk

cheers for posting, i'll look forward to that. Loved RN! Absolute warrior!

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

He never enjoyed it either...mate of my dad's...always moaning.

Another one I knew briefly, (not Rovers) played in a major cup final but was a rugby league man. Didn't like football and absolutely detested most footballers and and thought they were all 'ponces'. It's just a job to some of them. 

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

David Hamilton?

No, but I'm not going to say anyway. 

Just now, JoeH said:

How anyone could say that they’d refuse to have anyone at the club who’s willing to be a “squad player” is absolutely beyond me. I simply can’t understand the claim. 

Competition for places. If your back-up RB isn't bothered about playing 1st team football, the first choice RB isn't under any pressure to perform to keep his place.

Some footballers don't even like football. It's just a job. I used to know a Rovers player in the 80's who hated every minute of it. He'd have happily just turned up for training, picked up his wage and never got on the team sheet. 

That's a tough opening month:-

August

7 - Swansea City (H)

14 - Millwall (A)

18 - Nottingham Forest (A)

21 - West Brom (H)

28 - Middlesbrough (A)

Just now, JohnGo said:

Chadday who’s better that’s available?

Everyone's available at the right price, they just have to want to come to Rovers.

Re the EFL/Derby article, what does the following mean in layman's terms:-

More specifically, the panel determined that the Club’s policy was not in accordance with accounting standard FRS102 because it failed to accurately reflect the manner in which the Club takes the benefit of player registrations over the lifetime of a player’s contract. 

Just now, Tugayisgod said:

Think you’re confusing bickering with relentless negativity mate. That’s all you get on here

What ya go that's positive, champ?

What will determine the expectation for Blackburn Rovers? | Lancashire Telegraph

“At the end of the day everything is about expectation,” he said. “If you’ve got a talented young team who need to grow, the expectation should be less than if you’ve spent £100m.”

Mowbray's negativity begins again in earnest. Getting his excuses in before a ball is kicked. 

Just now, Marktheshark8 said:

Not trying to upset anyone but come on here looking for transfer gossip and such, not bickering about nothing. Is it always this way? Just so I know not to keep looking 

This is nothing. Wait till we sign Gary Pallister on a free...