Do we want David James back though - thats the issue - Robinson seems to be regressing into a godawful keeper. Teryy might have misjudged the throw but so did Campbell who looked flakey all the time he was on - however the more matches the better he'll be, surely. I think people are being too negative - Hargreaves did quite well - remember Carrick was rubbish against Hungary. And I hate hargreaves but he showed that he can do the job. Expect a 4 1 4 1 formation with Rooney up front and lampard and gerrard playing off him

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/worldcup06/200...n_disguise.html On a slightly more football related note

Owen's dislocated his kneecap (Im looking at teh negative side) so that leaves us with a strike force of Rooney (who was good for 50minutes last night) Crouch (again did well last night) Walcott (who will play if we need a goal im sure/hope) and then Gerrard and J Cole as 2ndry strikers. Although Id not play the last two with Rooney as hes not a target/shoulder of the defender striker. Rather they should play off Crouch or Walcott. I thought Beckham had a good defensive display last night as he was helping out Carragher and was missing the Neviller something chronic attackingly. The sooner Neville gets back the better as it means that Carragher can be back up centre back and not Sol, who was at fault, along with Robinson for the 2nd goal

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a win against togo and they should be fine. Whats the group? South Korea 4 pts Francs 2 pts Swiss 1 (stilll to play) Togo 0 (still to play) I expect the Swiss to beat Togo so then South Korea 4 pts Swiss 4 pts Francs 2 pts Togo 0 Last games are Swis vs Korea and France v Togo France winning and the swiss and Koreans winning Thats 5 pts apiece it'll go down to goal difference could be very very interesting

muhahahaha muhahahaha muhahahaha Henry - bottler

the ref is a tad pro brazil in my opinion - however Brazil are not scary at all

also the used to (dont know whether they still do) check for the radiation from a CRT - which is different for a tv compared to a monitor - or something dont know how they cope with LCD and plasma screens. What they also do is drive round looking for aerials if you ahve one and no license they'll come pay a visit

Glory hunter

they didnt play well because they were rubbish. When was that goal? Was it the first?

As I understand it if we win the group we play argentina in the final - losing on penalites in the quarters aside

it would be the best ever goal if S&M hadnt decided not to turn up at the first whistle and were utterly dreadful and not trying. Against a team trying a fantastic goal. Against a team so devoid of ideas passion and skill, just a well worked goal.

wheres the ref from? Iran?

maybe hes jewish

I big dollopd of luck always makes the difference in these competitions

Its not all SGE's fault. Surely the players who are "some of the best in the world" can bloody go out and show it. Tactics take you so far sometimes you have to play and not blame the system. Substitutions is not the players fault - playing like school kids is

The german people and army (on the whole - some very brave people saw the evil from the start) were quite happy to go along with it untill they began to lose. They ignored what was happening to teh Jews and some worked in collusion with the matter. As I said - Forgive but do not forget

(go for a 2-2 prediction with an equaliser in injury time)

Crouch's first shouldnt count

Paul some SGE moments - 1) 4-0 vs Spain 2) 1-5 vs Germany 3) 1-0 Argentina 4) 3-2 Argentina 5) 5-0 Jamaica True some awfully frustrating games in their too. But I unlike a number of england fans can remember the utter crap served up under Kevin "Ive got bags of heart and passion me" Keegan. 0-1 to Germany at Wembley?? Remeber that one. 3-2 to Portugal Euro 2000 3-2 Romania Euro 2000 SGE took over with England heading towards non qualification of the 2002 world cup. He aint done bad just not as great as we would hope. He brought order and discipline to chaos and gave belief to despair. And for that I will always be grateful to him. Still doesnt explain Owen ###### Hargreaves or Jemainne "Whats the Point" Jennas. but weighing it all up Sven gets a well done from me. As for last nights game. Sven has been rightly criticised for not making the right substitutions or tactical changes. He should get some credit for doing it last night. We ended up playing an inverted 4-4-2 which although did leave us open for the counter was a sound move and was proved to be. Still on another note I think this has been the most enjoyable world cup that I can remember. theres only been a few drab games

carlton Palmer And youre wrong there abbey - Crouch scores goals, Heskey didnt also crouch can hold the ball up and distribute it. Heskey cant

what rankings are the Faroe Islands if we're bringing up upsets? Also we're in teh world cup you aint nah nah nah Also Neville is one of the best right backs in teh prem name 3 better over the past 5 years let alone 10?

it wasnt mass organised rape or torture was it? The British Empire was in no way the shining gem that some would like but compared to some others it is not bad at all.

carlton palmer? What happens with yellow cards awarded in the group stages in the 2nd round? I would love us to go for the win against Sweden. However I would like Sven to pick Carrick or (this hurts me to say) Hargreaves as a defensive midfielder and let gerrard or lampard play (id put lampard on the bench because he looks knackered). Owen and Crouch need to have another 60 minutes together at least. Id like to see Walcott come on as well. Also that was the first time Sven's substitutions and tactical change has worked to change a match. We should have been ahead a lot sooner than we were, but in the end we won fairly comfortably. If iw as being 100% England tinted glasses I would say that we marshalled our fitness well, allowing us to attack strongly in the last 20 minutes and get the win. Still it was squeaky bum time at points wasnt it?

I never said that, I said that the german people should not be allowed to forget. Swastikers/hitler salutes 10 german bombers is crass and wrong but the deeper meaning, which is the point i was trying to get across is that what happened under the Nazis (and stalin) is so abhorrent that it should never be forgotton. Anyway if you want to talk about the attempt to remove and destroy cultures we could always ask about the ideginous population of your fair isle? Rabbit Proof Fence wasnt a made up situation was it?