Hilton in net to start the other game - why did we sign this Everton lad then? 'Cos we know Hilton isn't good enough.

By far the better team in the second... third? Half? Whatever we're calling that second 30 mins (as both teams have emptied the benches for this third period). Far more intensity. The problems still remain though, we're bereft of quality.

This left foot / right foot combination standing over a corner like it's a free kick is new.

Nah we look like what we are - a team bereft of quality players upfront (and in goal).

They bundled JRC down when he was clean through on goal - red card and a pen. Ref bottled it. They've also been kicking lumps out of Sigurdson.

Worryingly this is middling second division German side. They look much better than us.

There's no pace in the side, so we can't counter attack effectively (or really stretch the pitch) and conversely we're very easy to break on. It's been a problem for years.

We have nothing upfront and nothing in the net. We're going down.

The starting one isn't either.

I can't work out what formation we're playing - 4-4-2? 4-2-3-1?

Hit and hope through a crowd, but fair play he caught it well.

The starting attack is frightening.

He's proven he can't play out wide at this level - so unless he turns into a goal scoring #10 he's not good enough.

I'm amazed he's not already moved on.

Or know a disgruntled employee...

We should always have cheap kids season tickets. It might be a 'ploy', but it should be a core marketing strategy. It's how I started supporting Rovers all those years ago.

Probably the same as the thousands of stay aways - and did so when they bought the tickets.

Most of the Championship doesn't have a pot to piss in. When Kompany won the league by spending £40m, he spent about ten times more than every non-parachute payment club. When Leicester bought Harry Winks for £11m last year (plus his massive wages) JDT came out and said that was more than his entire operating budget.

He'd be our best player now.

A very tiny clique then.

That's obviously not happening, but I like the ambition. I'd send Garrett, Batty and Tyjon out on loan, personally. Garrett and Batty especially need consistent men's football. Where's Duru in your reckoning? Loan I assume?

Any funds we raise will follow the £29m in transfer funds we raised in the last 6 months into a black hole.

We keep on being linked to the same uninspiring names that simply don't improve the starting XI. What a miserable summer this has been.

There clearly aren't. The only possible point you've made is that their pub teams will be better than our pub teams.

We literally have better players than Spain (bar Rodri). That excuse died a death a few years ago. Any talented player is in an Academy by 8 years old.