@Alejandro Tapia Goalkeeper is the position with the smallest potential to sell for a huge profit. It's also the cheapest position to recruit, and very important, so I don't think there's any need to go to the lower leagues and buy 'potential'. We need the finished article and we need it now.

Pretty sure it's more because you're now adding O'Connell into the mix, a Premiership defender who is probably better than Lenihan....plus the ten million. Anyway, never heard of them bidding 10 mill for him, let alone two seasons running. We know they bid a lowball when we got relegated, heard nothing about bids since. Where are you getting this?

Surely it's Buckley, right Paul?

Huh, I thought Harrison Reed had signed for Fulham permanently last summer, but it was just a loan....and now he is being linked with Burnley... https://eurofootballrumours.com/burnley-eyeing-move-for-harrison-reed-20029/ Be pissed off if they got him and he goes on to be a big success for them. (And no, not because he is a realistic signing now)

We all know this is the 2019 summer transfer window thread, and not the current one, right?

Ok, wasn't sure which one had been reported. That list isn't definitive though, it's just based on what is reported. We are really keen on these 1 year options in our favour these days (which I think is a good thing, as long as we activate the right ones). I'd be surprised (and fuming) if the weird 2-year deal Nyambe signed doesn't include one.

I really want to play even the first one, but no way I'm buying a PS. Which they'd release it on xbox or pc.

And Dack as a false 9, and Graham has even shown up on the wing before now. It's as if TM is trying to prove he is a genius by finding some hidden position for these players, but it's having the opposite effect.

Highest number of accurate long passes in the team, and nearly 5 times more key passes than anyone else, suggests that if you're right, the rest of our current team is orders of magnitude worse at it. You can't judge everything off stats, but pushing 5 times the amount of anyone else is surely huge enough to be telling.

Yep. I mean it's largely because under Mowbray our defensive and GK additions have totalled three loans, Leutwiler (always intended as backup) and Bell, I believe, but yep, mind boggling. (Oh and Hart, who was surely only ever seen as a prospect. Point is we haven't even really tried to permanently strengthen this area, apart from probably LB, which is staggering when it's been our weakest area ever since we sold Hanley and Duffy for a mint)

Tribunal, not nothing. But that's still not good enough. I thought we already established there is a 1 year extension option in the club's favour though? Or that might have been Dack.

They can only talk to clubs in a different country at that time.

Enjoying that ecstasy pill?

Well, I'd been starting to think and say that we should only extend his contract if he would take about half his present reputed wage, due to his increasing age and a few signs of slowdown at the end of the season. Then I saw the stats in this article: https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-downing-contract-transfers-18670814 Stats don't tell the whole story, but... Highest number of accurate long passes of any Rover Second highest short passes (first was Lenihan, mostly easy passing in tons of space at the back) Highest assists (8, which is 2 more than Arma who was second, and is the same as Benrahma and Eze More than TWICE the 'key passes' of any other Rover (again Arma second) 94 accurate crosses - the second highest was only 20!! All whilst shunted around different positions (although that's the Mowbray Mantra). I bet his experience has been valuable behind the scenes too. Makes me wonder if it might be more important to secure another year from him than I thought. I definitely think he started to lull after Jan though, and again, he could become a liability at a moment's notice because of his age. There's also the argument people have made, which I think at times is true, that he slows our play. This possession based stuff isn't working as far as I'm concerned, so maybe we don't need somebody who keeps that ticking, I don't know. The key passes and accurate crosses are two things we already don't do enough of to break teams down though, and he absolutely dominates those stats. It's an interesting one. If, as believed, he is on about 20k a week, I'm not sure we can afford the risk at that price (plus whatever signing on fee), but still. Best thing would certainly be if, in the current climate, he accepted his wage needs to drop dramatically and re-signs more affordably. He probably doesn't really need the money anymore and surely wants to finish his career playing as much football as possible?

I haven't been watching Wigan, and I know they've gone down, but they actually conceded 7 less than us, in fact less than everyone except for 8 of the top 9 placed teams, and their run of clean sheets near the end of the season was phenomenal. It just makes me think their back four and keeper situation has to be worth a close look. I know they had the lad who was Milan-bound, and we obviously have no chance of him, but the rest...Wigan will be very vulnerable to lowball offers right now. Anyway know if they have anyone who could do the job for us? I know a few on here wanted us to get the keeper they signed last summer, Marshall wasn't it?

Fair shout. Don't remember that one specifically but that magic man ripped us up a few times. Still Henry for me, but all these years later I struggle to remember specific performances for anyone. Van Persie and Torres always used to put the fear in me too.

It'll be Henry. That guy used to embarrass us. Terrified me every time he ran with the ball. Not that Vieira wasn't an exceptional player who ran the engine room.

I didn't say you were discrediting the poster, personally, just that you were discrediting his suggestion. Obviously you're fine to disagree. However it did come across (to a neutral here) as a bit dismissive, and for reasons bound in fuzzy and inconsistent logic tbh. Anyway, we all move on. Personally I saw the post and initially thought 'Eh, why would we pay 2 million for Bristol's third choice CB', but I think the poster justified his opinion well. I just want someone who, at the end of the day, fixes this problem position. Cost is almost immaterial. You can get a fantastic player for cheap or free, or a total flop for 5 million, we all know that by now. Lots of our least inspiring buys have turned out to be great ones. I'll never forget that Samba was rotting away in Hertha's reserves or that Nelsen came from the MLS, which was even weaker at the time. We spent a pretty penny for the likes of Peacock and Dailly who were gash on toast.

He isn't particularly the defensive screen type though is he, @Sparks Rover ?

I like you as a poster Joe. But you seem to be simultaneously arguing that this guy is too expensive for us, but also can't be good enough due to his price (from this and also the other posts). You're also saying his great youth CV makes him too expensive, but downplaying his actual CV. Tbh if you haven't seem him play, as I haven't, I'd stop trying to discredit the suggestion the poster made. I look at players based on their background off a quick search too, but personally I think you've expended too much energy arguing against this one if you're not already well up on him. Apologies if you've already let it drop, I haven't refreshed the thread ?

I like you as a poster Joe. But you seem to be simultaneously arguing that this guy is too expensive for us, but also can't be good enough due to his price (from this and also the other posts). You're also saying his great youth CV makes him too expensive, but downplaying his actual CV. Tbh if you haven't seem him play, as I haven't, I'd stop trying to discredit the suggestion the poster made. I look at players based on their background off a quick search too, but personally I think you've expended too much energy arguing against this one if you're not already well up on him. Apologies if you've already let it drop, I haven't refreshed the thread ?

Most likely, but if (this first being the biggest of ifs given recent history) the defensive situation gets fixed, Armstrong fires all season and Dack returns like his old self, I'd definitely fancy us for the playoffs. It's small margins in this league. We know TM won't fix the defence and GK situation adequately and we might sell a key player to stockpile more CMs or just pay the bills, but let me have 5 seconds of optimism eh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/championship/top-scorers Noticed he has the highest shots on target rate of anybody on this page. I found that especially interesting since he shoots from distance so often. Hoping for big things from Arma next season if we can keep him. A full season like his second half of this season, and we're either getting promoted (defence permitting...) or he's off for big bucks. Hopefully he gels with Dack rather than their styles clashing.

Ahhh, so we ARE making offers

Already said it but will say it again. Even if theres no sell on clause, we are due a development fee on every cash transfer he has in future. That's the rules of the game now, we don't need to write it into a deal. So that would explain us being due a slice even if we didn't negotiate one through our usual sheer fucking incompetence.