Fair. Hard to tell, when it's something some on here would say in all seriousness!

Sure, we would just ignore being in second place in a league we've not been top 6 in for many a moon, and actually signing good players, and want him gone because of a run of bad form. Sounds legit.

If you stand in front of a mirror and say his name three times, he will appear and fume about the Walker Trust selling us out to Venkys, and that Burnley don't matter. Vinjay... Vinjay... Vin.... No, I can't bring myself to do it.

Undisclosed doesn't mean peanuts, some very large deals go down as undisclosed. 800k is stunningly low for him. He is 31 now, but still. Cracking player.

Fair enough on that point, but I'd still rather he go play for a League Two side with a keeper he can get ahead of, than sit on a League One bench.

1. If he is much better than League Two standard it begs the question, why couldn't he get any games for a League Two side? 2. We don't need him to go somewhere to be a sub keeper, we need him to get some senior games! I'm picturing WBA in a meeting with Hull saying, "We will offer you this bag of KP nuts for Grosicki, but you can't tell anyone..."

Fisher going on loan to a League One side seems a very odd move, just after he didn't make a single league appearance for a League 2 side.

....undisclosed peanuts?

It's been said that we did do a deal outside of tribunal. But either way I'm fairly sure a percentage of profit clause is pretty common in tribunals?

I mean, I was describing a theoretical scenario in which Nyambe was sold, and Nyambe hasn't been sold or even bid on, so...... But apology accepted. We all skim read sometimes.

What an odd thing to say. Did you think I was pretending that was an actual quote? I didn't 'make it up to suit my opinion', I made it up as a bit of a joke and to add emphasis. The entire thing was opinion, I thought that was a bit bleeding obvious to be honest. I'm amazed I've had to explain any of this.

Dunno. I think maybe Tony likes the idea of a young, skilful, natural winger careening down the flanks a lot more than he wants to actually take the 'risk' on it? He should have had more chances by now I agree, but it isn't happening so I think he needs to play competitively elsewhere for a bit to try force the issue.

I can live with that. Since we are supposedly about to tie someone up on loan for his areas of the pitch, it makes sense to let him out. He simply isn't going to get chances here right now so he is going to waste. This way, maybe he tears up League One and TM is forced to take him seriously next season. If it was between him and Brereton being loaned out though, I'd very much have preferred BB went out.

It was. The day after the window shut, if I remember it rightly. And many of us pointed out this risk, with trepidation. We have set ourselves up to the possibility of the exact same thing happening again. If Lenihan gets injured, suddenly we are having to play Williams or Mulgrew, and that won't be a good thing at all. Doesn't sound like a CB is remotely a target, so we haven't learnt a single thing. Lenihan is prone to injuries too.

It wouldn't do us much good if some club was willing to pay 15 million for Nyambe. There's no way they would start with that bid, having seen us sell the likes of O'Connell, Cairney and Raya for far less than we should. They would just enter a bid of say 5 million and good ole Tony would say 'Yeh that matches what I think he is worth, and it must be their final offer, let's sell'.

It really is (though I think the owners may consider it a convenient excuse). Rule changes always seem to come at the wrong times for us. Like how the Champions League used to only be for Champions. Until pretty much right after we stopped finishing top 4. We would have had another what, 2 CL campaigns if it had been top 4 back then?

Nope. Seen Madon and bbrovers post before anyone else and it come true. Unleaded also named quite a few that went absolutely nowhere, like not even mentioned in the press. But he also came up with real info (years and years ago last I saw).

Left back, funnily enough

What I would suggest is ignoring the criticism. Post info on a take it or leave it basis (answering polite questions if able) and ignore anyone who doesn't believe it. It's not your problem whether they do or don't, and you just get embroiled in a pointless circular argument. It's just strangers on the internet after all, and strangers on the internet like to get testy with people in ways they wouldn't in person, due to the internet being impersonal.

He will go for a lot less? His release clause has already been met twice. Sounds like wage negotiations with both those clubs have fallen through though. Maybe during that those clubs have said they'll give him what he wants in the summer when there is no fee to pay too though. Strange game of hardball from Peterborough. They insist his release clause must be met (and have got lucky in a couple of clubs meeting it even though he is free in six months). Yet he absolutely isn't going to play for them again. So they're saying they're willing to throw say, 1.5 million away, which surely would be cheap enough for contract negotiations to prevail if they lowered their price to something like that, even though they won't be using the asset again. Not sure who they expect to believe that. The fact that they've said they don't want to play him again may even have contributed to contract talks failing, as clubs are unlikely to believe that they won't sell cheaper last minute since they don't plan to use him anymore. Personally I suspect we did come in for him, as I thought it was really odd TM said that clubs want 2.5 million or 3 million for players. 2.5 million is a very specific figure, and one I've only heard this window in relation to MM. We probably offered about 1 million and got told which orifice to put it up.

Be really interested if you're trying to provide information here or just speculating.

Yeh maybe. With all the supposed interest in permanent wingers like Curtis and the Polish lad though, I suspect we thought 'we want a good permanent signing on the wing, but we will take this loan as a plaster if that doesn't work out'

It wasn't said that a loan signing was imminent a week ago. The wording used was along the lines of, a deal is set up for if we decide to finalise it. We may have changed our minds since, or be waiting to see how everything else pans out.

Yep, absolutely you can distort the run of form stat in all sorts of ways. I just thought this one was interesting, and a little impressive given it includes our pretty shit recent run before the Wednesday game. It also shows how inconsistent this league is and that all you need is consistency. Still say we need key reinforcements to get enough of that consistency over the remainder of the season.

Absolutely crucial to sign at least two good ones if we want to have any chance of scraping playoffs, yes. My pick would be to get a left back and a goalie. But I'd love to get a CB too, one injury there and we will look very bare indeed. Lenihan is known to get injured. If we got all three plus a good wing prospect like Maddison, Curtis or the Polish lad, I'd give us a very good chance of managing it. Anything short of that and it will take everybody hitting and maintaining form, with some luck on injuries. And the manager not sabotaging us. And no, I don't remotely expect us to sign all of those.