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And Pedersen played a huge part in that very encouraging performance that you are talking about. Helped Morris's better second half display too, or did you think Morris did that all by himself. As I've said before Pedersen is not what he was but he is better than many give him credit for and to call him a disgrace to the colours is unbelievable. Perhaps he's overpaid - not his fault (would you voluntarily take less than your contract said) prehaps he can't play every week but where are all these young, hungry players who are going to flock to /rovers and give us the kind of performances that will get us out of the championship? Most teams go with a blend and most squads contain older players who can't do everything they could but whose presence gives stability and an example of how to conduct yourself.

That's daft. He's certainly good enough to play his part as we saw on Saturday. If we're paying him we might as well get something out of him. No point paying him to swan around doing nowt. Regardless of your opinion he's better than most we've got and is always willing to play. He doesn't throw his toys out of the pram if he's asked to sit on the bench and come on to be the scapegoat for the failings of the team as a whole - he's a pro. there's a guy behind me at Ewood who couldn't praise Pedersen if he scored 3 goals a match and singlehandedly won us promotion. You sound like him. You see all the daft stuff he does, no worse than what most of our team do, and none of the good stuff. I'm not even a great Pedersen fan but people who can see nothing good in the guy get my goat. He's our player so we need him to work because if the tales of financial ruin are true we're getting nobody else, not even players commanding minimum wages and no up front transfer fee.

So how do you suggest we get rid if he has a year left on his contract - we'd have to buy him out presumably

Black bull is currently on groupon again. Good deal.

the actual Wild rover song is great - it's just that watered down version that is awful. They've turned it into a poppy style song instead of the edgy drunken rant usually sung in folkclubs up and down the country.

Hence why i said if affordable. He won't necessarily be able to get 40 grand a week anywhere else so he might look realistically at playing for us for less than that next year. If there's a doable deal, I for one have no problem with it. I agree you don't pay someone who isn't going to be a regular starter that amount in the Championship, but you do hang onto players with a bit of experience and pedigree if they can still do a job and you can afford them. Pedersen ran more, put in more passes and worked harder for the team yesterday than most and, despite his faults I think he's a good guy to have around the club. Depends on finances, but if affordable do it. See appropriate thread

Pleasant without being outstanding. Service was good. Restaurant was well set out and spotless. Good choice of starters - often where i struggle - main courses plentiful without being too much on the plate. Home made chips. Desserts good. don't know about prices because it was a groupon or travelzoo offer but we very much enjoyed it and would go again.

I think you are judging this guy harshly Gordon. In the last few games, yes he's flapped at a few he really shouldn't have, but he's also made some really incredible saves you wouldn't have expected most goalies to make. As for his kicking, is it really worse than Kean's? I agree with you about Pedersen depending on length of contract and how much he'd want paying. He does make daft mistakes and is a bit of a wimp, but the game improved enormously yesterday when he came on. He can put in good little passes that take the opposition out of the game, like the ones he was slipping down the left yesterday, and he is still one of our better headers of a ball. Generally too he seems to try to move forward. He's nowhere near the player he was years ago, but who will we get better? There are times when, if affordable, the devil you know is definitely preferable.

I take it he hasn't been to specsavers recently. Or was i dreaming the fact that their players were fouling King almost every time he ran forward with the ball, and we should have had what looked to us in the Blackburn end like a stonewall penalty. Did he somehow miss the fact too that they should have been down to 10 when the same player committed a second bookable offence? Heard some Palace fans walking away from the ground saying there was a lot of discontent today about Holloway, people questioning his tactics and subs and so on, so perhaps he feels he has to give this sort of stuff out to deflect blame.

Sorry. Didn't mean was it Zaha. Meant was it actually the same player who did both fouls. It obviously was. Ref bottled that one then as we'll as the pen. Yes, they should have had a pen too but that wouldn't have happened if we'd got ours.

Thought Morris struggled with him first half but he was quiet second. Was that the same guy fouling twice and should therefore have been off? Odd refereeing performance all round and the linesman on the Riverside was very poor. Pitch affected the game quite a bit too.

Trying the Black Bull in Rimington tomorrow night.

he isn't scared to speak his mind either by the looks of the telling off he gave Dunn when he left him exposed just before the end of normal time. I'd said to my son who was attending his first match in a while that I thought Kane was improving match on match and I thought he was very good again tonight. Williamson and Jones probably had MOTM between them but Kane must have run them close. He just has bags of energy too and isn't afraid to get forward because he has the pace and determination to get back too.

Went to the Horse and Jockey in Chorlton yesterday. Table for 7 booked at 4.30. food served till 6 supposedly. They had already run out of one of only 4 starters. We ordered the roast beef - none left. OK we'll have roast chicken No problem. 5 mins later there's none left - would we change our order again. We do. It comes. It's wrong. My husband has to wait while the rest of us start to see if they have enough roast lamb for him - they scrape up just enough. then the waiter appears with the dessert menus, gives them out to all 7 of us, then says "Sorry but we only have baked bananas, cheese or icecream. would you like coffees? We decline and ask for the bill. They've added 10% service to the bill - not mentioned anywhere in the pub, although we do know it's often standard for groups of over 6 (why, since those groups are usually spending fairly highly anyway and if in celebratory mood will willingly leave a tip) Daughter pays and simply says We're not paying that. Went to Tesco and bought desserts for a fraction of the price to eat at home. Needless to say - won't be going back

Had a very good meal in pleasant surroundings at the Pendle Inn Barley last night. Journey home not so pleasant and probably shouldn't have gone with hindsight, but there has been almost no snow here in Clitheroe and whilst we envisaged it being tricky, little did we realise it would actually start snowing in Barley as we arrived and not let up.

First thing she said when she told us about him was "There are 2 drawbacks, mum. One he's an only child and two he's a Burnley fan" Nearly 4 years now so I don't think she's going to ditch him. Meal was decent as usual

We're off to the Calf's Head later with the Burnley supporting soon to be in-laws. Should be fun

Would but don't know how to.

Could never visit a restaurant that doesn't let you take photos of the food! My daughter always wants to see what we've had to eat and so we take photos everywhere.

i saw Accrington Pals too. It's meant to be dreary but I find it forgets the fact that even in the worst of circumstances you can still have a laugh. Wasn't the best show this season at the Exchange. Orpheus descending was the outstanding production of this season's 4. Do we have a theatre review thread?

Speak for yourself Gordon - I've been to more places since i turned 50 than I had in the decade before, largely since I had no money because of the 4 kids. A health scare made me realise that, what the heck, I'd better get on with things. I've run 5k, further than ever in my life before, visited cities I'd wanted to see for a long time, I was in London at the weekend for a West End show, am off to France tomorrow for a bit of chateau style pampering and am having fun. Life may not begin at 50 but it certainly isn't even beginning to end.

Funnily enough unless we eat at the station or Maxwell's we usually go out of clitheroe. Think edisford bridge is ok nowadays. They have a. 2 course early bird offer atm Mon to Thurs but haven't tried it. It's odd that a nice place like clitheroe no longer has the restaurants it had in the days of the auctioneer and browns bistro.

Live in Clitheroe and it's one place I'd never dream of eating. Overpriced for what it is.

Yes, we tried booking and couldn't get a restaurant table but got one in the bar area straight away despite it being packed. think if you're booking you need to think well ahead. we've thought about the 2 starters too Gordon but then I look at the main courses and fancy lots of them too.

Went to the Tempest arms at Elslack again at the weekend. Place was heaving despite it being just after Christmas a time when most pubs and restaurants are feeling the pinch. Food very good again. Learnt from last time to avoid starters and just go for mains with the option of a dessert if you're really hungry.