tms guys all reckoned it was the right decision.

Nobody's advocating cheating - just playing to the rules which nowhere state you have to walk. And we're all hypocrites to some extent. Fact of life.

So how come is it cheating? He did not deliberately set out to deceive anyone. He simply stood still till told by the umpire whether to go or not. What next? goalkeepers admitting the ball may have actually crossed the line? Players asking for a booking when they foul someone, even if the ref and linesmen don't see it? Why should cricket be any different? If you deliberately seek to gain an advantage by pulling the wool over someone's eyes that's one thing but for a professional to stand still and wait (I'm presuming if the umpire had given him out, he'd have gone without a complaint) till the umpire who is in control of the match says "Out!" is surely the norm in most sports. Yes, we might all wish it were different, but it isn't and to hate someone and call them in the way you have called Broad says far more about you than it does about him.

Ashes games have been won by the odd run or 2. Need to stop the opposition getting those odd few runs - it might matter

Quite agree - I wish he'd been out for the 6 he probably should have been out for. I can't believe the sympathy for him. When it comes to the Ashes there's no room for sympathy or feeling sorry for opposition players

I don't like tennis but watch cricket too. Cricket's meant to be a slow sport - doesn't mean it's boring

Just been watching an article aboutthe flooding that's hit Central Europe. prague zoo had to evacuate its tigers

Very expensive too and most people don't eat them

and there's me thinking I'm coming to Korea for a holiday!

Huge part of my childhood was the wrestling at teatime after the football results on Saturdays. Used to hate McManus. My Nanna was a huge fan and would always talk about it when we went to her house after tea every Saturday night.

Surely the point of eating out is that, whatever you choose, you don't have to shop, prepare, cook or clear up the kitchen and the dishes afterwards. That's why, evewn if we have gammon or steak or whatever that is fairly easy to do at home, we enjoy it - it's an easy option. and cooking steak at home is very difficult anyway

If I knew, I'd put a stop to whatever it is that's going on but it's been an issue with that lot since year 8 I think. Every now and then one of them just says cheese and the rest of them fall about laughing. I put it down to their being immature little boys and one of these days they will move onto something else. This week it was the staple of all schoolkids everywhere - paper aeroplanes. If they were half as good at French as they are at those, I'd be in teacher heaven

Not the folks i was looking at last Sunday! I'm not young myself but these folk were seriously old. anyway food was good and service was pleasant and if you find yourself in clitheroe over a Sunday lunchtime it's worth a try

Ate Sunday lunch at the Old Post House in Clitheroe last week. Very good value at 10.95 for 3 courses and the coffee was included. Made me feel young again too as all the people in there were at least 70 and many were older!

And Pedersen played a huge part in that very encouraging performance that you are talking about. Helped Morris's better second half display too, or did you think Morris did that all by himself. As I've said before Pedersen is not what he was but he is better than many give him credit for and to call him a disgrace to the colours is unbelievable. Perhaps he's overpaid - not his fault (would you voluntarily take less than your contract said) prehaps he can't play every week but where are all these young, hungry players who are going to flock to /rovers and give us the kind of performances that will get us out of the championship? Most teams go with a blend and most squads contain older players who can't do everything they could but whose presence gives stability and an example of how to conduct yourself.

That's daft. He's certainly good enough to play his part as we saw on Saturday. If we're paying him we might as well get something out of him. No point paying him to swan around doing nowt. Regardless of your opinion he's better than most we've got and is always willing to play. He doesn't throw his toys out of the pram if he's asked to sit on the bench and come on to be the scapegoat for the failings of the team as a whole - he's a pro. there's a guy behind me at Ewood who couldn't praise Pedersen if he scored 3 goals a match and singlehandedly won us promotion. You sound like him. You see all the daft stuff he does, no worse than what most of our team do, and none of the good stuff. I'm not even a great Pedersen fan but people who can see nothing good in the guy get my goat. He's our player so we need him to work because if the tales of financial ruin are true we're getting nobody else, not even players commanding minimum wages and no up front transfer fee.

So how do you suggest we get rid if he has a year left on his contract - we'd have to buy him out presumably

Black bull is currently on groupon again. Good deal.

the actual Wild rover song is great - it's just that watered down version that is awful. They've turned it into a poppy style song instead of the edgy drunken rant usually sung in folkclubs up and down the country.

Hence why i said if affordable. He won't necessarily be able to get 40 grand a week anywhere else so he might look realistically at playing for us for less than that next year. If there's a doable deal, I for one have no problem with it. I agree you don't pay someone who isn't going to be a regular starter that amount in the Championship, but you do hang onto players with a bit of experience and pedigree if they can still do a job and you can afford them. Pedersen ran more, put in more passes and worked harder for the team yesterday than most and, despite his faults I think he's a good guy to have around the club. Depends on finances, but if affordable do it. See appropriate thread

Pleasant without being outstanding. Service was good. Restaurant was well set out and spotless. Good choice of starters - often where i struggle - main courses plentiful without being too much on the plate. Home made chips. Desserts good. don't know about prices because it was a groupon or travelzoo offer but we very much enjoyed it and would go again.

I think you are judging this guy harshly Gordon. In the last few games, yes he's flapped at a few he really shouldn't have, but he's also made some really incredible saves you wouldn't have expected most goalies to make. As for his kicking, is it really worse than Kean's? I agree with you about Pedersen depending on length of contract and how much he'd want paying. He does make daft mistakes and is a bit of a wimp, but the game improved enormously yesterday when he came on. He can put in good little passes that take the opposition out of the game, like the ones he was slipping down the left yesterday, and he is still one of our better headers of a ball. Generally too he seems to try to move forward. He's nowhere near the player he was years ago, but who will we get better? There are times when, if affordable, the devil you know is definitely preferable.

I take it he hasn't been to specsavers recently. Or was i dreaming the fact that their players were fouling King almost every time he ran forward with the ball, and we should have had what looked to us in the Blackburn end like a stonewall penalty. Did he somehow miss the fact too that they should have been down to 10 when the same player committed a second bookable offence? Heard some Palace fans walking away from the ground saying there was a lot of discontent today about Holloway, people questioning his tactics and subs and so on, so perhaps he feels he has to give this sort of stuff out to deflect blame.

Sorry. Didn't mean was it Zaha. Meant was it actually the same player who did both fouls. It obviously was. Ref bottled that one then as we'll as the pen. Yes, they should have had a pen too but that wouldn't have happened if we'd got ours.

Thought Morris struggled with him first half but he was quiet second. Was that the same guy fouling twice and should therefore have been off? Odd refereeing performance all round and the linesman on the Riverside was very poor. Pitch affected the game quite a bit too.