I'm not sure I'd admit to that

Lat time I was in the JW (Leeds?) it was banned in the stand but allowed on the concourse. The club announcement states smoking on all concourses excpet the FS.

I don't understand the logic here. Ban smoking in the stands but not on the concourses? One area is well ventilated, the other is like an opium den at half time. I'd been considering moving out of the FS to the JW but won't be now as the atmosphere on the concourses is so unpleasant at half time. Surely it would have been far simpler to ban smoking entirely. This staged approach means those who object will have two seasons to get used to it instead of one.

..........on a more positive note the Take That gig has had to be cancelled

The FA have just announced the stadium will not be ready until 2007 one year late. No Robbie Williams No Bon Jovi No Charity Shield No England Internationals No Rugby League Final No Rolling Stones There may be a small scale safety test event at Christmas...........next thing you know these people will be claiming they run English football!!!!!!!!!!!!

Either you haven't read or you haven't understood my posts. This thread is discussing a whole range of issues, one of them is income from attendances, another is the cost of attending a match. I clearly said the following: For a single adult buying a match day ticket it is the often quoted £25-30 but for a family with STs it's very different. The point is simple for a single matchday ticket an adult is going to pay the top whack and quite rightly so in my view. ST holders have committed to watch every game no matter how good or bad the season and get a really good deal on a per seat basis. My family is paying less than £12 per seat per game because we have committed our support to the club for an entire season. I've stumped up close to £1000 last July and I'm damned if I'm going to see some fairweather fan pay the same as me. The people you are talking about only want to watch the best games when the team are playing well. It is only fair these fans should pay top price for the top games. Make it any different and the club will lose the ST base. Think about it.

Just to illustrate my post above using ST prices only: BBE & DE - total capacity 16000 Adult £410, Junior £85, Senior £225, Young Adult £225 = £945 per four seats Income over season = £945 x 4000 = £3,780,000 Riverside - capacity 5000 Adult £395, Junior £85, Senior £225, Young Adult £225 = £930 per four seats Income over season = £930 x 1250 = £1,162,500 Jack Walker - capacity 9000 Adult £480, Junior £85, Senior £225, Young Adult £225 = £1015 per four seats Income over season = £1015 x 2250 = £2,283,750 Total income if sold out on STs = £7,226,250 Per seat, per game = £7,226,250/30,000/19 = £12.67 Assumptions: * Each stand is occupied equally by adult, junior, senior, young adult - 25% each * ST price is top loyalty price in each stand except JW where the top price area is not available to juniors or young adults. Used the second highest price in the JW. Just imagine an ST price increase of say 5%. That only generates a maximum of £360,000. 3 months wages for a PL player?

£13 is the average revenue per seat, per game over a season, the info game from John Williams. There are many calculations you can do on Rovers income, they all explode the myth that watching PL football at Ewood Park is too expensive. For a single adult buying a match day ticket it is the often quoted £25-30 but for a family with STs it's very different. Even if the ground sold out on STs our income would not increase dramatically. I don't know the age range of Rovers crowd but let's assume it's split evenly between adult, junior, young adult and senior. If one takes the top "loyalty" price for an ST in each stand and then multiply the sum out by the capacity you'll find the income per seat, per game would be an incredibly low £12.67.

Disturbed to discover yesterday people who don't go to watch Rovers are planning to be at Ewood tonight. I shall be quizzing them later today to find out why. Incidentally we're going, anyone else?

Lets hope it has nothing to do with planes! The whole thing is clear really whether one knows anything about the building industry or not. The FA have proved themselves to be a bunch of incompetents time and again over decades. Mutliplex were desperate to break into the UK market and under bid to buy the business. Thirdly it should never have been built at Wembley and would have been far beter sited in a brown field area in the Midlands. Put those three factors together and you have a receipe for disaster from the start. I'm quite enjoying the FA's embarrassment showing them in their true light. Other than going to watch Blackburn Rovers in a cup final I'll never go to Wembley so what does it really matter. It's an irrelevance to the average football fan, more entertaining than watching a game in the stadium. The FA have used the whole Wembley re-build as a money-making exercise and to rip-off the average fan. They deserve everything that's coming their way.

IHD like dave we put all our photos on CD but we also print some. I've found the cheapest method, with outstanding results, is Boots internet service. All you have to do is upload the files to their site, create an order and 2-3 days later the photos arrive. Quality is better than anything printable on a home PC/printer and at around £20/100 for 7x5 and £12/100 for 6x4 very cheap - I doubt you could buy the ink cartridges for that. Personally I wouldn't bother buying a top quality photo printer unless it was a hobby. http://www.bootsdigitalphotocentre.com/wpp/boots/welcome.jsp

Well I'm not going to Germany but I am to South Africa 2010: CONGRATULATIONS THIS FREE LOTTO DRAW IS ORGANISED BY SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT IN CONJUCTION WITH OTHER PRIVATE BODIES TO PROMOTE THE 2010 SOCCER WORLD CUP THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN SOUTH AFRICA. YOUR WINNING INFORMATION IS ATTACHED FOR SECURITY REASONS. CONGRATULATIONS ONCE MORE. REV. JOHN WILLIAMS PROMOTION MANAGER 2010 WORLD CUP So now we know

I appreciate what you are saying but I can't imagine a scenario whereby £16m puts us in a stronger and safer position. We are already in "a stronger and safer" position than when these two players arrived thanks to the efforts of Hughes and his team on and off the pitch. If you view this from a purely financial position then, yes, an influx of £16m does improve the club's position but football clubs, especially one in Blackburn's unique position, do not work like this. The effect is also very, very short-term. To sell Bellamy and MGP would immediately undermine all the good work of the past 18 months, leave fans disillusioned and the missing thousands even less likely to return. Saying no to Utd or any other club is essential unless that club offers such a stupid amount that it is glaringly obvious to the support that there is no choice. So £6m, No but at perhaps £15-20m, Yes. Bellamy even more - he's a proven goal-scorer of enormous ability, he can be like Shearer in our future. Ridiculous amounts, true, but we can't calculate their value just as players, Rovers have to consider their influence in every aspect as we look to build for the future. Sell MGP and/or Bellamy and it's as good as asking Hughes to leave and trebling the price of admission on the same day. In MGP's case I'm not sure he's actually good enough to get in the Utd side?

Selling MGP would send out all the wrong signals. Whatever the financial situation I hope the club realise selling him would be a massive error of judgement. A bird in the hand etc. What we should be doing is increasing the focus on him locally to build his and the club's profile.

Yes

No but BRISA have put this to the club. IF it was to be introduced it would be linked to the Membership scheme as the club would have no other way of ensuring the purchaser qualified by age.

Rev it's 16-21 on 31/08/05 for this season, but otherwise yes you're right. The full time education bit doesn't come into it as far as I'm aware.

FANtastic offer. Put me down for four. This is outstanding from the Rovers and the sort of offer supporters have been requesting. Now we just need a really good April on the pitch, beat Wigan, Liverpool and Chelsea and lets see what that does for sales.

My Sunday paper was reporting this as a possibility BEFORE the roof fell in. The FA and Wembley are not able to say when the stadium will be ready as they have no forecast date for when the full scale safety tests can begin. Apparently the Community Shield and the England friendly are in doubt for the beginning of the season. The CS will go to Cardiff and the friendly possibly to OT. Doubt was also raised about the two Euro qualifiers in early September.

No.3 - defending throws go down the line

The fixtures will be published in late June and it's anybody's guess when the first home game will be. The season starts on 19th August and, assumming past patterns hold true, we will play four games in the first two weeks, 2 home and 2 away. Three out of the last four seasons we have been at home the first Saturday but it's purely the luck of the draw. The only thing you can be sure of is that Rovers will be home on either the 19th or 26th August.

We may well be able to sell tickets for that one

I need to know the following, can one of you whizz kids find it for me please? Last time we played on Easter Sunday or Christmas Day? thanks

Sunday 16th April