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3 minutes ago, j166429 said:
I think Eustace left Birmingham due to misalignment with the board...
Harder to misalign with an old friend though…
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9 minutes ago, lraC said:
I have serious reservations about the funds being released in March.
When I had my meeting with Waggott in November, he was cock sure that a precedent had been set and for that reason, was almost guaranteeing the funds will be in the bank in February. Well they aren't and although the adjournment may well be due to court pressures, I have this sneaky feeling that the ED investigations, are more serious than some people are making out.
Before the season started, it seems to have been dressed up as Indian tax changes, but not that looks like a cover up, as admitting there were being investigated would not have come out, had it not been spotted by an eagle eyed fan.
The case could be ongoing without conclusion for an undefined period of time and will be heard on the Indian courts timescales as evidenced by the Jan push back.
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3 hours ago, philipl said:
On the transfer thread
All rovers..
Waggot slowing the deal down wouldn't surprise me.
I believe he was responsible for our drop in form last season, being as leaky as an old fat man with incontinence, when he should have been shielding the squad when we had a chance of the play offs. And of course the buck stops with him over O'Brien which would have certainly got us at least an extra point. A complete and utter bastard.Ignore the vast majority of this imo.
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1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:My view ? Don’t attend. Why be a human shield for the bastards ?
Because I wanted to make sure if the opportunity to say my piece to Waggott was there, I took it.
I know the whole “we can’t say anything yet” is pretty shit, but all I can say with certainty is we said our piece.
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8 minutes ago, arbitro said:Personally I wouldn't have gone then. You might disagree but I think they have used you, the other attendees and the players involved. Clearly Waggott is desperate and will probably feel some smug satisfaction from today. In my view it has driven the wedge even deeper between the club and fans. And hearing the players whinging has certainly pressed my buttons.
He can call this meeting but won't have another Supporters Consultation or Shareholders meeting. You have to ask yourself why.
Ultimately I decided to go so that I could say my piece and I feel like I did do. Between me and Glen we made it abundantly clear what the problems at this club were and who is at fault… in our opinion, of course.
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13 minutes ago, arbitro said:I don't know under what circumstances attendees were invited. Was there anything in advance about questions and what could or couldn't be said? I have never gone into any meeting 'blind' and always had some idea of what it was about so I could prepare something. I'm not comfortable with the secrecy stuff, it really grates that there is something to hide when everything should be out in the open.
To be absolutely clear I had no idea what the meeting was about or who was attending other than knowing Waggott had called it. I didn’t know five players would be there. There was a moment when I said to @Herbie6590 I might be going down for a telling off… I even said we might be getting sued here. There was zero agenda or format.
There is of course a risk of being used for PR, but I had two options:
1) Attend, find out what it was about, report back what I can.
2) Don’t attend.
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27 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:
Thank you for your summary.
Regarding the bit in bold, and just for clarity, was Waggott in the room at this point?
Yes, it was just Waggott and the club PR chap.
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18 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:
@J*B- did it sound like the players were genuinely impacted by the boos or that just theyd been called to this meeting and raised some general points since they were there?
Different players had different prioritised concerns. Some of them sounded more impacted by the atmosphere on the whole than others.
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34 minutes ago, Tom said:Be good to hear some first hand accounts of the meeting today, the whole thing is just bonkers
I was there - got the phone call last night. Not really sure why me specifically, it wasn’t specifically through BRFCS. But I thought it’s better to be there than not, so I went down.
Basically what Glen has tweeted was how the meeting went. It was an informal chat with the players then Waggott. There’s no minutes.
The general discussion was the players mentioning the atmosphere at home games and specifically the end of the QPR match and during another match (they couldn’t remember which) where they were boo’d off at half time. They said the senior players spent half time keeping the younger players in the rate state of mind and that’s not the best use of time.
I made it abundantly clear to all the players that any booing is directly at one of Venkys, Pasha and Waggott or JDT. Szmodics especially said “we’re open to criticism, we were shit against Huddersfield and we know it”.
I also explained to the players that unfortunately this club has had ‘ownership issues’ for 14 years now and whilst the last five years have been relatively stable, until the issues with ownership and senior management are addressed it’s only ever a stubbed toe away from discontent amongst the fan base.
The players also asked how we could get more fans in the stadium at Ewood. I explained to them the issues with ticket pricing and season ticket pricing — which I described as “abhorrent” — and the horrific deprivation in the local area meaning that fans would love to go but frankly have to pick between eating and heating, meaning there’s little spare money and not enough to be spending on tickets.
There was further discussions which everyone in the room agreed to not disclose at this point. I gave my word - as did everyone else - so I’ll honour that.
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Just now, scotchrover said:
I suggested that on another post, we have several working parties, focusing on different roles, in order to spread the workload.
Full credit to those lads too, but we need to learn from those protests- what worked well and what wasn’t worth the effort.
100% - there’s no point starting the race at the start line if someone can give you enough info to start over halfway to the finish.
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29 minutes ago, B16Rover said:
In fairness I heard similar, none ops staff more finance related
I heard Mike Cheston and Ashfaq Hassan have both left. Not sure under what circumstance and for legal reasons I must stress that is not confirmed and doesn’t necessarily mean it’s connected.
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3 minutes ago, scotchrover said:
I agree about the above Without meaning to sound offensive, as fans (me included), we just look like a bunch of angry keyboard warriors.
It’s crying out for someone to take the lead and direct. I’m hoping the above Facebook group- which I’ve joined- does that.This is absolutely key. The only way any protests will be successful is if there’s a small group of people orchestrating them that are all aligned and capable leading it. It’s a full time job that will take over your life.
I had to duck out of the WhatsApp group for exactly the reasons you outline.
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And an exclusive message from Adam Wharton where he says he hopes one day he gets to play for Rovers again..!
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2 hours ago, TommyRovers said:
It's the responsibility of Ian Sylvester. No questions there.
Whether he will be head to roll or whether the blame will be forced onto Broughton is the question.
It’s not him that’s gone for it. Two gone today I’m told…
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Hospitality for Newcastle now released: https://www.eticketing.co.uk/onerovers/EDP/Hospitality/Index/1448?pbCode=27
I don’t think Steve and Suhail would like protests against their leadership in the corporate seats and lounges.
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Well done to WATR on the statement and answering questions from BRFCS members. I really appreciate seeing the answers.
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1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:
If the funds werent there, then that is down to the owners, not to shoot the messenger.
But you are right in that the dilly dallying has put a right spanner in the works.
If he’s already in the country and you know funds will land from Palace, it would be advantageous to pick him up from the airport and get the basics underway whilst you wait!
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Let’s not forget if we hadn’t have had McGuire in a Sheffield hotel for hours on deadline day, we would have had plenty more time to get the paperwork done. The reason he was there — “Rovers directors told Orlando they didn’t have the funds for the deal”.
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13 minutes ago, tomphil said:
How come this vastly experienced guy who has overseen more signings than we can even remember has
suddenly lost the ability to do his job ?
Also how much will it cost to pay him off and shut him up !
This is what I don’t understand. He’s been here for years and by all accounts has done a very good job - until this time last year.
It wouldn’t surprise me if budget cuts mean he’s trying to do it all with a typewriter.
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3 hours ago, unsall said:Heard it’s gone against us re McGuire, lad going back to Orlando, also one resigned ( not JDT). Nothing official but decent source.
Heard the same just now - resignation is Sylvester before he was pushed.
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McGuire left Brockhall this morning with his mum in a vehicle from Rovers. Allegedly going to Manchester, but can’t get 100% info on whether it’s for the day, for the night, or in a car full of bags never to come back.
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Here’s a starting point for anyone wanting to discuss protest options: https://chat.whatsapp.com/CkZGICKIfnhEAoPh32yV4c
It requires you to have WhatsApp installed and will mean other group members can see your phone number whilst a better plan is sorted.
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8 minutes ago, Bethnal said:
I'm designing while a couple of drinks in here, but I think a big part of protest is iconography. Symbols, flags, etc. People like things that resonate, so here's a starting point from me.
edit: "LRVH" is an easy acronym and potential hashtag, along the lines of "COYB," "RTID" etc. It's positive about the thing we want to be positive about.
I have a very talented designer that will make what we need as long as the brief for what is needed is very clear.
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Jon Dahl Tomasson - Officially No Longer Our Head Coach
in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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Not the clearest series of messages I agree. We’ve (BRFCS) been told by a strong, regular source and sense checked it that John Eustace has agreed to take over if/when JDT leaves. It wasn’t discussed in the meeting yesterday, it’s information subsequent to that.