Just now, scotchrover said:

I suggested that on another post, we have several working parties, focusing on different roles, in order to spread the workload.
 

Full credit to those lads too, but we need to learn from those protests- what worked well and what wasn’t worth the effort. 

100% - there’s no point starting the race at the start line if someone can give you enough info to start over halfway to the finish. 

29 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

In fairness I heard similar, none ops staff more finance related 

I heard Mike Cheston and Ashfaq Hassan have both left. Not sure under what circumstance and for legal reasons I must stress that is not confirmed and doesn’t necessarily mean it’s connected. 

3 minutes ago, scotchrover said:

I agree about the above  Without meaning to sound offensive, as fans (me included), we just look like a bunch of angry keyboard warriors. 

It’s crying out for someone to take the lead and direct. I’m hoping the above Facebook group- which I’ve joined- does that. 

 

This is absolutely key. The only way any protests will be successful is if there’s a small group of people orchestrating them that are all aligned and capable leading it. It’s a full time job that will take over your life. 

I had to duck out of the WhatsApp group for exactly the reasons you outline. 

And an exclusive message from Adam Wharton where he says he hopes one day he gets to play for Rovers again..!

2 hours ago, TommyRovers said:

It's the responsibility of Ian Sylvester. No questions there.

Whether he will be head to roll or whether the blame will be forced onto Broughton is the question.

It’s not him that’s gone for it. Two gone today I’m told…

Hospitality for Newcastle now released: https://www.eticketing.co.uk/onerovers/EDP/Hospitality/Index/1448?pbCode=27

I don’t think Steve and Suhail would like protests against their leadership in the corporate seats and lounges. 

Well done to WATR on the statement and answering questions from BRFCS members. I really appreciate seeing the answers. 

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

If the funds werent there, then that is down to the owners, not to shoot the messenger.

But you are right in that the dilly dallying has put a right spanner in the works.

If he’s already in the country and you know funds will land from Palace, it would be advantageous to pick him up from the airport and get the basics underway whilst you wait!

13 minutes ago, tomphil said:

How come this vastly experienced guy who has overseen more signings than we can even remember has

suddenly lost the ability to do his job ?

Also how much will it cost to pay him off and shut him up !

This is what I don’t understand. He’s been here for years and by all accounts has done a very good job - until this time last year. 

It wouldn’t surprise me if budget cuts mean he’s trying to do it all with a typewriter. 

McGuire left Brockhall this morning with his mum in a vehicle from Rovers. Allegedly going to Manchester, but can’t get 100% info on whether it’s for the day, for the night, or in a car full of bags never to come back. 

Here’s a starting point for anyone wanting to discuss protest options: https://chat.whatsapp.com/CkZGICKIfnhEAoPh32yV4c

It requires you to have WhatsApp installed and will mean other group members can see your phone number whilst a better plan is sorted. 

8 minutes ago, Bethnal said:

I'm designing while a couple of drinks in here, but I think a big part of protest is iconography. Symbols, flags, etc. People like things that resonate, so here's a starting point from me.

edit: "LRVH" is an easy acronym and potential hashtag, along the lines of "COYB," "RTID" etc. It's positive about the thing we want to be positive about.

I have a very talented designer that will make what we need as long as the brief for what is needed is very clear. 

If an effective protest is happening you need one person to set up a WhatsApp “community” group and one person to coordinate it.

32 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Yep.

Steve/Suhail.

Venkys, in other words. Neither would be here without them. 

44 minutes ago, TommyRovers said:

Just a formality I believe. Duncan is currently at Ewood for the game. This isn't a repeat of O'Brien.

I don’t think this is the case — firstly, if you go into the club shop they won’t sell you a McGuire 50 shirt, but also the lack of comment smells of an element of truth. 

Just now, 47er said:

I think that's true but I don't think they are paid to report it that way.

They just know that if they don',t their access to the Club will be curtailed.

I think local media especially has changed so much over the last 15-20 years. There was a time when the clubs needed them as much as they needed the clubs. I remember SAF used to argue with the MEN every single week, but they could never ban such an important local media outlet. I remember in 2011 the LET bravely lead with a story calling for Kean to be sacked - I don’t think they’d be able to do that nowadays.

The reality is now journalists are at the mercy of website clicks, so don’t really have the scope to do long investigative pieces and have the maintain a positive relationship with the club or realistically they’ll lose their job. If a BBC Lancs reporter, as an example, pisses off the club they’ll ultimately lose their job because BBC Lancs can’t rock the boat. 

That being said I have a lot of respect for all local journalists doing their best whilst working under the restrictions that the job provides. 

1 hour ago, Upside Down said:

Sounds like he's spinning some sort of conspiracy theory to me.

I’m happy for it to be put down as a misunderstanding that was clarified 🙂

10 minutes ago, JBiz said:

 

Where does the screenshot say:

“is on a paid agreement to toe the Venkys party line”

Come on JBiz, I’m happy for you to have an opinion, I’m happy for you to bash my opinion to pieces, but what you’re saying and reality are a way apart here. 

The quote you’ve put up says the local media reports have reported the Rovers PR. That’s their job, why wouldn’t they do that? If they have a statement or comment from the club they need to use it. 

2 hours ago, J*B said:

Is this me? I don’t think I’ve ever suggested anyone “is on a paid agreement to toe the Venkys party line” - can you show me where I said that? 

If so, for absolute clarity, I don’t think anyone at BBC Lancs, Andy Bayes or Elliott Jackson are being paid to say specific things. 

I would still like a response to this, if possible @JBiz. 

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting, but if it is as above I’m going to need to see some evidence of it. BRFCS has strong relationships with BBC Lancs, LET and Lancs Live, so it’s important there isn’t any confusion. 

From my points of view there’s a full team of people and moderators here striving to do and create the exact opposite of what you’re suggesting is happening. So whilst you’re absolutely welcome to an opinion, as is everyone, you’ll need to back it up. 

18 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

The timing though. We could have kept him for longer and eventually made more money. My concern is that we have had to sell him so soon because of the stuff around the Indian court case.

Hence, I am making a "working" assumption that the money won't really be invested in the playing side..

Yeah we could have. Or he could have done his ACL and never quite been the same player. Or we might not have got 22M. Or we might have gone down and vultures would have circled.

I think it stinks to high heaven - especially with the statement saying the club was suitably funded before any of this happened. But I can’t say that and commit to it until I’ve seen what happens.

If we spend 15M in summer on three quality players that make a positive impact then it’s probably the right decision. 

Just now, roversfan99 said:

There had been cutbacks and then further cutbacks hence why fees were off the table and Ayala, Dack etc were let go.

Was there? I hadn’t seen that reported, can you link it? My understanding was that Ayala, Dack, Brereton etc where all let go because JDT and GB thought the funds could be better used elsewhere. We signed three players - Ennis, Sigurdsson and Tronstad, then “the project changed”.

1 minute ago, unsall said:

Or it could be as simple as GB wants to give his usual post interview re transfers 😀

I haven’t read the comments from the players but it isn’t a good look to have them sat at the front without their new manager alongside them. 

If they where doing that the media officer should start the press conference by saying JDT won’t be speaking on anything further than introducing his new players, so don’t ask questions about anything but that. 

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

How do you know he was on 18k a week at CSKA? No way did he offer him 15k amidst the cut backs.

We agreed his transfer before the cutbacks so it’s reasonable he’s on 15K to me.