Tony Mowbrays teams don't play winning football that's the problem.  That's why he gets sacked everywhere after a couple of years.

I'm sure Boro fans loved his midtable fare so much they'd have swapped it for the Karanca years. Or Coventry fans would still prefer sitting at the lower end of league 2 to watch this mythical football.

Thick as pigswill these pundits.

Others teams results should have no bearing on judging ours if the games don't involve us.  That's just verbal diarrhea he spouts like Coyle to veer away from the real issues.

This is the championship results are always up and down and anyone can still beat anyone on any given day. Apart from us obviously, we used to be one of the standard up and down teams but now we are consistent in not managing to win at all.

Relegation will be rubber stamped next season persisting with this manager and his approach. If they are still too stupid to realize this having been burnt several times before when the warning signs flashed loud and clear the season before then they deserve to burn in hell.

Sick to the back teeth of this now and anybody who is stupid enough to still make excuses for him.

1 hour ago, RoverInverness said:

I feel the mistake being made here - and it’s one that is often made - is people think of Venkys as a single body. They are not, they are a group of dysfunctional quarrelling siblings who often act in contradictory ways. My memory/reading of the Kean situation is that Barry probably wanted him gone, Mrs D didn’t (she got on with Kean’s wife), so Barry appointed Shebby to make life difficult for him.

Similarly when Lambert was appointed, somebody - probably Barry again - promised him the Earth, but Lambert soon realised a promise from one of them means bugger all.

It is why their decision making is so glacial (as beautifully described by someone here earlier in the day) even when the correct decisions are glaringly obvious (like sacking Mowbray). It also explains bizarre decisions like the double audit one summer, but no sale of the club afterwards. It also explains why they still own the club, despite it doing them no good. It explains why senior appointments are made - Waggot, Senior, etc, but the appointees appear to be powerless. It explains why they one season call a fire sale resulting in relegation, followed by three seasons of throwing money at a dope who has no chance of achieving anything. None of it makes sense because it’s different parties, with different objectives, making different decisions.
 

Pasha may well be the communication channel to one of them, but as they all seem to have the power of veto of each other’s decisions, it takes more than Pasha to pull the trigger. Someone has to get all four of the loons to agree to sacking Mowbray. 
 

The best hope is Mrs D is distracted and just says ‘yes’ without paying much attention. She’s the most cautious of them, but also the one with least knowledge of the realities of football (which is some achievement).

All this said - I still have another page or so to read - maybe by the time I get to the end of the thread there will be some news.

Please, please.

All that was supposedly changing when Barry & The other one became joint significant people on the companies house books.

However if the parent company still pays the bills then ultimately Mrs & Mr D will always call any shots that require money i'd wager.

9 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Re embargo...

I read that we have until 30th June to sell players to meet our projections.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19213633.rovers-issue-accounts-update-amid-efl-transfer-embargo/

Or the land.....

I'm certain there was something unsavoury about the whole Kean leaving episode.

My bet would be Singh had rumbled a little scam or something and was going to make it public. Giving the slimeball no option but to walk otherwise i think he'd have brazened it out.  After all he stood there through it seems very odd an annoying Malaysian TV pundit would drive him out, just by watching and undermining everything he did.

Nah, there must have been a lot more to it than that.

Here now we have something a bit different but bad enough in its own way. If Mowbray is still here there's obviously been no sign of a nudge from anywhere. 

30 minutes ago, broadsword said:

Tie yourself to him first

Not much point he'll only bounce.

27 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

If Waggott was 'instructed to act', he's failed to so do. Do we move the 'clock' forward to 5pm or will we just look back on this moment as the one where we missed the opportunity to save our championship status.

If he's spat his do do out and walked as well then there's no one to announce it.  Such is the void between Ewood and India.

Just now, RoversClitheroe said:

Of Mercer out or something else? Lol

It came up from his wine cellar, think he was putting some nice bottles of red BACK in their crate.

9 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Mercer Out

There's been some noise.

There should be no decision to make that should have been sealed a month ago.  The only thing they should be debating is who steps in short term and gets the team back to basics.

Stops the revolving team sheet and subs and sets out to grind us a couple of results out so we can breathe again. Right now that's all that matters.

He should be at home just waiting for news of his contract settlement and whether he's needs to sue or not.

10 minutes ago, Meesh said:

When will people learn that there is no set time that Venkys work to? When will people learn that there is absolutely no predicting what Venkys will do? 😆

When will people learn that the percentage chances on then doing anything at all are always extremely low.

It isn't happening, the way they do things now will be the annual review in June/July along with budget setting.

By then him and his fat monkey will have spun new yarns and promises that will see them through summer.

All pointless because whatever happens this season he's a dead man walking going into next season. Fans will be on his case as soon as there is a bad home performance and result.  Then it's just a matter of how long he sticks it out / gets away with playing the victim.

There is no future under this ownership it's just like the tv soaps, same story lines being rehashed every few years with different characters.

Please sell the club and take your wasted debt money with you.

9 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Still can't get over his "I am a performance based manager, don't judge me on results" line.  Kean's book of bullshit must be lying around Brockhall somewhere

Honestly certain journos and media people would rip him to shreds over that one.  He's had the brass neck and free reign to be spouting that same crap for months now though.

And look where we are.

Ah sleep walking into embargo like last time despite multiple warnings.

All very convenient before big player sales start, some cheapo dumb ass manager from HSH = relegation.  Sell half training ground to balance books.

Start again.

Very very slippery slope here but these lot got away with it last time so probably think they can again.  Anybody think they borrow in India about 30 million or so every 3 years hoping for promotion then have to take panic action to pay it back ?

8 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Oh, those 'people'

Yeah for every 2 that say he's going another says lets not have any knee jerk reactions to bad results !

It's home to some genuinely bizarre opinions and rumors.

These things usually get announced around 10 am ?

I suppose they give a bit of time to give the managers in question an opportunity to walk before they are pushed. Then there's the agreeing of severance and no doubt a multitude of agents and lawyers snouts in it.

Will Venkys even know what's in TMs contract ?   Very much doubt it they are probably having nervous breakdowns when they see the cost of it all.

Sadly imo chances are if it hasn't happened in the next hour it isn't happening.

35 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You might have missed the discussion about the LT on the other thread.

We didn't think the LT would want to run it voluntarily as a letter for fear of falling out with the Club so offered to put it in as a paid for banner ad with a QR code linking to the ad which is also a lot less unwieldy than a multi page letter.

So far the LT have declined to run it.

In that case it's clear they do not have the best interests of the club or fans or Jacks legacy at heart.  Only interested in the club paying them advertising revenue.

Ok, so they have to have a good working relationship with Rovers but they owe it to the readership to be impartial and show both sides of the story. Support the club and fans in equal measure.

They do not do that.

Kidd was a nice guy who tried to get the team playing football on the deck. It was too insipid, the defense was too weak and we couldn't create or score enough. He retained his job too long, result - relegation and the same shite at the start of the next season. Which in effect wrote that one off as well.

Kean.  Got it on the deck after Allardyces relentless percentage football.  Tried to get the team playing a passing style. Didn't suit the players he had, fell rapidly down the league and only stayed up the last day.  Got rid of most of the better players , continued trying to play his style, result relegation. Finished what he started the season before.

Coyle, well more or less the same as above.

I'm absolutely convinced if we don't drop this season and he stays he'll complete the job next season. Or do enough damage to not be able to avoid it again once he's gone.

Seen all this before and how it begins, it's all shaping up to another disaster.  Of course he's in denial of it all but the owners by now should not be.

2 minutes ago, PeteJD13 said:

you know what i don't think they are involved in brockhall at all in terms of who suggested it and the idea. If the manager and senior staff have presented it you can see why they may agree to it. But i would be amazed if that idea came from pune

I don't think it did i think it's all of Waggot or the whole trio's own conniving.  That middleman though i don't trust one iota he's been a constant throughout and for all we know plays both sides to keep himself in a cushy number.

9 hours ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Uncomfortable though it is to many, the only thing which will unite everyone again will be administration, when it comes.

It won't because if it comes about through Vs leaving then there'll be a load trying to blame fans for driving them out.

If it came about as a resullt of them placing us in it iv'e no doubts they'd buy us back out of it under a new company name.  Then the circle would begin again.

6 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Yeah no blame attached to Howie for that - he had a great game that night and what I would give for a player with his passion in the team now!

Class act, he was very nearly the final piece in the promotion without a pot to piss in jigsaw.

Great signing by DM, agree we need something like that again but characters don't seem to exist anymore.

12 minutes ago, PeteJD13 said:

pasha is over here and runs the show so you would assume its him talking to mowbray and waggott

'Don't worry Tony, don't worry Steve Mr B said he'll back us again if we go down. Your jobs are safe he's too busy setting up Bala Enterprises Ltd with his new friends. Speaking of that, hows the land sale progressing ?'

4 minutes ago, LDRover said:

It's high time Mashed Potatoes came back on to warn us to be careful what we wish for. Not been seen much over the last 14 games for some reason.

The ultimate WUM spudhead