Buster Douglas was a 42-1 underdog when he shocked the world v Tyson so this guy must be worth a punt although the odds won't be that long. Joshua always prepares meticulously although since Wlad he's been popping up at awards, on the social and TV circuit quite a bit so you never know.

Mike Tyson on the other hand was flying back to the US from his Tokyo training base to shag his favourite hooker and visit his favourite night club a few weeks before the fight after his head had gone into full on meltdown. Press these days would've been all over that and Busters odds would've been a lot less plus he had a great left jab and looked as if he was building a decent CV which went right over the bookies and most pundits heads it seems.

I think AJ will be a little less wild in his private life lol but you never know with HW's. Could be an earner.

Teams who haven't been paid for a month or two are over running us from start to finish and showing the heart for battle missing in some of our lot.

The lack of real desire and urgency you need in every game if you crave promotion just doesn't seem to be evident in anything apart from words. All to often it just seems to be a shrug of the shoulders 'oh it's not happening today but it might tomorrow' type attitude. It was the same last season though, soft underbelly and weak management for so long it's now in every fibre of the club, keep your head down, mouth shut and pick up your wages.

Could be real tricky this for Joshua although having already got tickets i think it might make for a more exciting fight than Pulev plus he's IBF no 3 contender so it's fair enough. Looking forwards to it now whereas before i was expecting a bit of a grind.

Must've been a few question marks around Pulev seeing as they've had this guy on standby in full training since the original fight was announced. They don't call him fast Eddie for nothing 

Both in equal measure but we have a bench that should be able to alter things yet it doesn't always get used correctly so that's down to the manager. He throws them on but gives them the wrong tasks out of position or next to one or two out of position so they can never build any momentum plus his subs are to predictable now opposition know what's coming.

Bunce nailed it tonight, what works against one man at HW won't always work against another it doesn't happen like that. Highlighting Norton beating Ali then Foreman beating Norton and so on.

Beating the man doesn't make you the man you've got to beat the rest as well to be known as the man all the best did that to earn their status and all the greats lost at one time or another and came back.

Beating the man makes you the man of the 'moment' nothing more and those moments pass.

Just now, onlyonejackwalker said:

 Believe it or not we get on fine.

I'd win in the ring anyway. I'd jab his head off just like the Gypsy King.

Then you'd duck the rematch, retire and boast about it for the next 20 years whilst resembling a demented hippo on legs 

I'm sure your his brother or something you get the hump easy when a few facts are pointed out

Cunningham had lost THREE of his 4 fights previous to the Fury one, I think even Prince Charles or Brezeale would have done for him pal.

Never mind keep dragging Joshua into it I couldn't care less if he laboured your too blinkered to acknowledge he's a completely different kind of fighter who's deceptively quick when he launches some attacks and is quick to pin down his opponent when he chooses in between his 'labouring' perhaps just perhaps that's his style.

Survival first box counter off the back foot second is the Peter Fury way and whilst it might get some good results it won't get you through a career. What's the big deal about being unbeaten anyway ?  Does that automatically make you a modern day great if you only have ONE name on your record, is that enough to retire and live off the back of forever ?

He is undefeated for a reason your right it's because aside from 1 top fighter he's fought no one and you can't get beaten if you never effin fight can you, he knows that damn well !

Anyway turn it in now your out of legs to stand on and it's a bit boring just like the Fury's who couldn't sell out a phone box between them !

33 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

That is the thing Tomps. Fury hasn't even been convicted of a driving offence and you are going to look a tad silly if he is cleared of this PEDS charge. Joshua has been convicted of drug dealing, Mayweather wife beating, Marsh attempted murder, Mike Tyson rape and actual bodily harm, and all Tyson Fury has done is shout his mouth off. Behaviour hardly uncommon in boxing. 

Joshua fought Klitchko when he was 41 a fight recently voted fight of the year! Does that fight not count against a geriatric? Joshua has only had one fight by your logic, unless you rated Charles Martin, Breazeale, or a fat Dillian Whyte. Not that I agree with your reasoning. Rarely, if ever, do you get to mandatory for any belt after only two pro-fights.

I appreciate it irritates that Fury schooled Klitchko so easily, who then showed two years later that he was far from finished when he fought Joshua. Like I say, for me that performance clearly demonstrated he was head and shoulders above the rest.

Anyways, pleased for Masha Dodds and Rocky Fielding. Thought Ohara Davies recovered well after a bad defeat last time out.

Grow up ffs  how am I going to look silly Fury has made an ass of himself time and time again an embarrassment to himself and the sport. He ran away (literally) from the rematches and everything he does now goes against him wanting to fight again despite the clap trap he comes out with. He was trying to call himself the baddest man on the planet not long ago, ha he wouldn't have lasted two days in the real Tysons world. Guys a cartoon character.

He like you will be saying the same thing in 5 years and living off the back that fight forever. If you a grown man want to continue to buy into his nonsense that's up to you. We had a similar convo, disagreement about 12 months ago where you told me he was training and looking better, I told you no he wasn't and I told you he won't fight again, he's gone in the head and his heart went first.

As for the PEDS the Furys themselves have caused several delays to that the latest being they asked for some evidence to be discounted, before that they wanted time to submit their own evidence and before that the big guy was ducking his drug tests and threatening the random testers who turned up.  Not exactly the right way to go about it is it ?

It's all a shame because if he'd continued after he out hustled a flat footed Wlad (schooled ) we'd know by now just what he was really about and i'd stake my house on someone having poleaxed him, maybe not one of the other big guys either.

Anyway we'll never agree on him so i'm not falling out and despite all the rants i'd prefer to see him fit and well and in the ring but I just can't stand the guy and his crew, never have never will and that goes back to before Joshua appeared on the scene he's nowt to do with it I just despair the state of the game at HW level now where you have a few limited giants (inc the pikeys) and then a massive void, no one to test them unless they fight each other.

Oh by the way Whyte beat Chisora who Fury beat & AJ KOed him, just like he KOed Wlad which Fury didn't, yeah he took a dip but so what he got up and came back, proper fighter that lad

As long as they keep the other Joshua away from him !!!!

Decent stuff from Masher Dodd and Rocky Fielding so far tonight although Stalker has always been a tad over rated and local lad Jack Catt battered him

44 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Blinkered? I predicted Fury would beat Klitchko. Those predicting he would get hammered were the gormless folk. Klitchko was frightened to death getting in that ring, job done by Fury pre-fight-night. 

Undefeated heavyweight, 6 foot 9 and 18.5 stone when fighting. A right handful for ALL and sundry even your poster boy.

If you are a boxing fan, apply some balance as it will help you work some of this out yourself. 

Dragging up Joshua again because he's everything your fat clown isn't i'm amazed you haven't thrown out the 'casual' term as well

I'm hardly of an age to be having a poster boy and as for balance I said I wouldn't be surprised if Fury beat Wlad as he's a giant and he'd never faced anything like that plus he was at that point in a long hard career THIRTY NINE YEARS OLD.  They all run out of steam eventually but I gave credit to Fury he got the job done.

All this would've, could've, should've is irrelevant the fact is he's one a off joining a long list of one offs who in the grand scheme of things were no great shakes apart from one great career performance. (beating Chisora isn't a marker of greatness either ) Undefeated, jesus he's only had 2 real fights !

After that well he's blown it hasn't he so we'll never know but it's painful reading him running his mouth off from behind his keyboard and his belly and his followers who should know better swallowing every bit of garbage him and his family come out with.

I'm done this subject, your welcome to him and his victim playing drug snorting/dealing collection of scumbags.

5 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

You call the art of hitting without being hit, dancing. Others know it as boxing.You are a tad dramatic when it comes to the Fury clan Tomps.

For me, Fury summed it up the best.

"Joshua just had life and death with Klitchko after getting up off the canvas, whilst Klitchko couldn't did not lay a glove on me for 12 rounds."

Sums things up nicely for me.

Can't stand em pal i'll make no bones about it.

As for the Joshua comments come on OOJW if you are a boxing fan you'll appreciate the completely different approach by Klitschko in both those fights he was prepared to go out on his shield in the last fight and in front of him he had someone who goes head hunting not running.

Hit and not get hit is the name of the game but you have to actually hit not flick your paw into thin air or bounce the underside of your glove off the top pf the head if you want to gain points or break down your opponent.  Difference with Tyson is he can switch hit round the earoles as he's going backwards or slipping a predictable shot, Hughie didn't.

Fury as he was v Wlad & AJ is a 50/50 fight but it's naïve to think Joshua wouldn't pin him down and land he would and it's a case of what happens then particularly after 5/6 rounds.

We can forget it though it's not happening big Tyson despite his words to the contrary will never be in that shape again, end of because deep down he doesn't really want it.

For every bit I might be dramatic where the Furys are concerned you are blinkered pal

Fury's - way overated pillowfisters - victims, conspiracies etc etc. Boring negative fighters.

Bunch of absolute clowns the lot of em !  Have you seen the state of that big goon now ?  Looks like Foreman did when he was 48 not 28

No license doesn't stop you training, no excuses he's an embarrassment to the sport as are his gobshite think they know it all, boxing owes them family.!!!!!!!!1

On a serious note if I was that pair i'd take off to America and get away from the family and the stink they carry round. Get in a gym over there with a roughhouse trainer and learn the art of fighting to go with that backwards motion they have and gigantic reach.  Both have the size and footwork but need more imo, forget the lineal champ rubbish he only proved he could outhustle a very subdued 39 year old champ in a one off fight. A guy who ultimately ended up battered in his next fight because quite simply his time was coming to an end and in both his last fights although contrasting performances it was clear he was out of steam after halfway, it's called age.

They need a rethink because at this moment ones career is over and the others imo could go backwards before it's really got going. 

10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

"JLo whistled contentedly and sailed merrily on his way collecting 15k p.w. having seen off yet another manager."

How many's that? Kean/Black/Berg/Appleton/Bowyer/Lambert/Coyle/Redknapp.

Some going.

Minus Arrys regular 10% of course !

2 hours ago, TAFKAP said:

Lol,

I predicted we would have a good season, but it's way too early to get excited yet. It would be good for the city if its football club sampled top tier football again, but as a small club we can't complain with top 10 in the second tier.

 

I think it great small clubs from non league earning their way into the football league and doing well.

 

 

 

It's not on that they bring their own refs with them though

On the other point yeah you can't beat what being in the Prem brings to your local area and I think PNE are going about it the right way, positive managerial appointment.

Nobbers only won because super Lowe went off injured after 3 mins

Bonus side is the longer these lot stay together at U23 they become a stronger unit. No surprise that I fully expect the contract situations to be holding some back given who has been hovering up the kids for years according to some. God knows what's written in their deals and it probably turns out cheaper to borrow kids whose clubs are sending them for next to nothing.

I do think though that miss out on promotion this season and we'll be seeing most of the U23s at first team level soon enough.

Was watching an old HBO documentary last night centred around Mike Tysons comeback fight after the shock loss to Douglas.  Tyson was pleading for the rematch as was Don King plus there was a who ha about the long count Douglas received after Tyson decked him (14 secs) so they were trying to get that win overturned also one or two of the unified belts Douglas had ripped from Tysons grasp were refusing to acknowledge Buster because of the long count.

There was a public outcry and even Tyson to his credit told King to drop all that and Douglas was given his belts but Iron Mike was still pleading the rematch however unlike these days the Authorities ordered the mando who was Holyfield next and not only that the mando for another of the titles was Foreman who'd come back so that was next for the winner.

That's the way it should be and not even Don King nor Tysons mega drawing power could alter it but now there'd have been a rematch clause in the original contract and probably a rubber stamp one next had the score been evened.  SKY etc would have wielded their power for the biggest earning fight next no matter who deserved what even if there wasn't a rematch clause.

Like football,  money and tv control top level boxing these days and it's getting pathetic it'll blow itself out soon as I don't think it's as foolproof as the football bubble. There has been a series of daft or unfair fights made over the last 12 months just down to earning power and that 'event' last night which 10/15 years ago would have been billed as an exhibition match and treated as such just topped the lot, millions fooled by the hype and continuous in yer face marketing by Boxers on Sky who knew the score but tried to pretend different.

I don't think that's a one off I think it's the beginning of more farce when they see the figures.  So glad I didn't have any part of it by paying or even watching it !

Cotto on Boxnation did me just fine.

Well the Jack/Clev prediction came right and a nice win for a legend in the other real boxing match, Miguel Cotto, shame it was overlooked for an exhibition bout.

Anyway hopefully that's the end of it CM comes out with a bit of respect he's a tough guy but in reality the things he thought would swing it in his favour, size, age, inactivity just bought him a few extra rounds nothing else.

No more crossovers now please, two great sports but very different they don't gel at all.

2 hours ago, matt83 said:

As a fan of boxing I want mayweather to wipe the floor with McGregor so the mma circus can pack up and leave town and no more hybrid fights happen. Even as a fan of the underdog and not a fan of Floyd will still begrudgingly route for him.

Half way through the fight are we to expect the lights to go out and the undertaker to appear in ring and tombstone mcgregor then choke slam mayweather. 

Pretty much nails how I feel and god help us if Floyd has aged badly and McGregor connects with a big one given his size, think that'll go against him though and Mayweather should dance rings around him he'll be too big and slow.

So the night of the big fight is finally here, I see It going something like this ...

Cleverly will take the fight to Jack and outbox him for 5 rounds maybe even hurting him a time or two but Jack will grind it out and come back strong and stop Nathan when the gas runs out in the later rounds.

22 minutes ago, Manchester Blue said:

I think Prem away tickets are standard maximum £30 now aren't they?

Ah maybe so, I thought it was odd it was quite cheap considering.

50 minutes ago, JHRover said:

3,000 seats left empty in the Darwen End.

Looking at the online planner they've blocked off E04 in the Riverside (1,000+ seats) along with W01 and W07 in the Jack Walker (1500)

Blackburn Upper Tier remains closed (3,000 seats)

Therefore capacity currently at around 22,000 maximum.

Why does this club have to reduce capacity by more than 25% for this fixture?

'Fortunately' for the organisers demand for tickets in the home end is likely to be at an all time low so they won't have to worry about shutting down vast swathes of Ewood.

Would they have got away with this if Rovers were still in the Premier League and likely to sell out the home ends?

Looking forward to seeing Ibrox capacity reduced by 10,000 the next time Celtic are there, or Old Trafford down to 55,000 when City go there, or the Emirates down to 45,000 when Spurs go there because those nasty supporters can't be controlled otherwise. 

Riverside usually shut for these early round cup games so i suppose it's a bonus they've left that open 

Dingles on buses again so plod continuing to have their say.

I wonder how many of their lot will choose to spend their money on a trip to Ewood over a trip to Wembley for their game v Spuds, tickets only £30 adults by the way,

Quite a lot I would wager.

4 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Indeed. And there were a lot of Rovers fans there on Saturday who might have been testing the water before taking the plunge with a season-ticket. They won't be now and who can blame then.

There must have been 3k + walk ons there was loads buying tickets before 2pm so it'll take some convincing for them to return for MK Dons, classic Rovers shooting themselves in the foot tactic although that's been going on as long as I can remember

1 hour ago, blueboy3333 said:

Mowbray and his players don't deserve the support based on the first two league games of the season.

You have a point although this is Burnley it's always been about us and them fan wise so everything else to one side. Let's stick it up em, a win v these lot might just light the fuse for the season before all the belief totally evaporates.