1 hour ago, 1arC said:

This is just an opinion and by no means fact. Venky's roll up in late 2010 so Mr X who happens to be running the club, although he never claimed to be the owner, starts to get a little twitchy. The reason for this, is he got the manager in Situ at the time of the takeover dismissed and ut his own man in. His own man though, very nearly got us relegated. With the backlash from the fans, Mr X decided to infiltrate message boards and the likes, as he recognised that fans were a lot more dangerous and interfering, than he though. He opened up an account on many forums. Most of these were opened in July 2011 just before his managers first full season.

Almost five  years later on Mr X Decided to announce he had retired. In reality though, he was just hiding in the background. He handed over his username and passwords for the Forums he was on, to someone to keep an eye on things for him. Suddenly having made around 150 postings in 5 years, the person, he handed the account over to, began to make many more posts on the forums, as things were getting a bit hot at the club and he wanted to impress his boss. . In fact in a few weeks, he posted more than he had done, under the previous poster  in 5 years. He started to refer to Rovers as Blackburn and nearly got rumbled with that one, but perhaps, may have just got away with it. In his most recent error though, he posted that he had been a member for 3 years, forgetting how easy it is to check. In reality the time on the board is double, but, but "heck doesn't time fly?".

It's only a theory and I have no proof and I won't be pushing for one, in case anyone asks.

Having now changed careers whilst hiding behind the retirement line and having handed most his clients to other friends and newcos Mr X could maybe now be in the clear to take a more active role in his near 7 year project without the conflict of interest tag sticking ?

5 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Is that a threat? 

'put him to sleep' may have been a threat but put him to bed ? Hardly 

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

 

Senior has said it is a big summer and that there is money there. 

The guy wants to do a good job here to progress his career in football. 

I don't see how lying to fans will do that for him. 

Look I am not expecting 100 million to be spent or anything,but with some astute investments and promotion of youth,we can move well up the table. I believe where we are now is the low point. 

You been on the phone to Balaji after all ?   You seem taken in 

The Dogometer will be replacing the Chaddometer soon i reckon.

In all seriousness i pray your right but just can't see it there is absolutely nothing under Venkys ownership to back up any positivity. 

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

The last 6 years does not mean that a good manager and some decent signings will not get us moving up the table. That is all my point is. 

And that's correct but what some of us have learned is that it will not happen under this ownership. Mowbray might stop the rot briefly, i think he can, but it'll re-emerge in summer. If he stays his task will be the same next season as it is now, keep a budget slashing, player selling loan and freebie signing club out of the Championship bottom 3.

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

I don't believe total destruction and/or relegation to league 1 eventually is a foregone conclusion. 

A solid manager and a few signings will get us moving in the right direction. Venkys or no Venkys. 

This season just as conceivably be the mid point of the bottom loop of a bell curve as apposed to part of a continual decline. 

I take it you haven't really been observing the last 6+ years very closely, where were you at ?

1 hour ago, Athlete said:

What plans do senior Pasha and venkys have... 

Pashas thinking up another new name before he sneaks back meanwhile Senior is getting his wife to line up exits for any good youth team players. 

If the new manager bounce gets us say 7 points from the next 9 then that's surely an improvement than the 3 Coyle would have been likely to deliver. Burton away is a tricky one whoever is in charge but our lot are more than capable of getting a win IF they are all at it and if they are set up right.

I'd have been more comfortable if he'd have brought in a proper coaching team, this could be a rerun of the Berg tenure i fear.

Not inspiring in any shape but did we really expect anything else ? We are now n the market for ex Coventry managers which shows just how serious things are. He'll be cheap as chips and appointing rookie backroom staff from within is just another cost cutting measure. 

Coyle & co were probably on rolling contracts so terminating them before possibly the next one kicks in would be seen as saving money long term.

Always quite liked Mowbray and at least he's experienced if not inspiring and yet again someone like him at the beginning of the season would have yielded more points than Owen 'back door open' Coyle by now, dull as it may have been.

Did he eat your cat or something Jal you've really got it in for this lad 

Thing about Nyambe is he has that physical strength already for a young lad so it's easier to swim rather than sink. Hanley, Jones were the same and Darragh so they are halfway there if they have some ability as well.

First saw him a few years ago at Leigh and he looked the part then physically. 

When Coyle is managing Brunei in a year or two as his reward for smashing Rovers a bit more his interviews will be popping up

" Yes we did the double drop to league 2 for the first time but i was being dragged into meetings about closing stands so it was distracting. There was the 2 wins over Newcastle United the former Fairs Cup winners though"

1 hour ago, NinjaTattoo said:

Can you imagine IF they sacked Coyle or Coyle left and Chicken Pluckers  brought him back??? 

i honestly think they would...:0

Be careful a newbie on here coming up with a post like that..

But in honesty it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest neither would it surprise me if Kean still had shares or something in the club seeing as he's been hiding out in Brunei where amazingly Cresendo are based. Break the club down into a fragment of itself then bring him back to relaunch himself in the face of hardly any opposition . Would not put it past those who really run this club, by rights it should kill what's left stone dead overnight but there'll still be a couple of thousand sat there saying give him another chance.......

Just now, Amarillo said:

Diversion tactic to deflect the heat off Senior and Pasha. Don't be suckered in.

That's a fair point but the rag should say no. So deep in Rovers/Venkys ariss though they couldn't give a toss.

Knowing the feeling locally towards this guy who takes a huge chunk of responsibility for the mess at Rovers just WHY would you publish that if you weren't on the wind up ?

Dingle infested rag full of outsiders. It's been dropping through this letterbox 20 odd years, not anymore.Boycott it now.

3 minutes ago, 1arC said:

I suspect that it isn't relegation by design, but more we don't care either way, from the owners. After all not one of them feel even 1% of what we do for their baby.

Aye  i think it's a case of if it happens it happens and a shrug of the shoulders from them. Whilst maybe not planned it does seem invited thouugh and Clownpants i wouldn't trust to pass me a biscuit. 

If we don't go down this season it will be next surely as like you say and iv'e said in recent posts there will have to be another big cash injection in the next 12/18 months just to keep things ticking over as they are. Unless of course everything is slashed in half in terms of budget and running costs which is the way i think it will go in summer. That equals nailed on relegation.

If not it brings us back to them being happy to absorb huge losses on the accounts every year. There has to be a beneficial reason to them for that which opens up the rest of the conspiracies.

Bonkers.

I suppose it's not a bad way to increase your personal wealth whilst having a bit of fun along the way. Your major shareholders in a corporation that can lose heavily losses of one of it's franchises in it's accounts quite easily and to it's benefit.

Meanwhile you amuse yourselves and fill your own back pockets via percentages from player trading etc and playing at spread betting on this crap team you co own who are nailed on to lose more than they ever win. No need to get rid it's a fun toy for the wealthy with nowt better to do. The company props it up and it causes no major financial bother so the other shareholders don't care.

Lets just look again at the odds of every manager these lot have appointed .......

The deliberate leaning towards relegation would likely come from those doing the button pushing of the V's as they stand to continue making % from more ins and outs.

From Vs point it's probably more of a don't really care either way maybe after being advised that if relegation did occur it gives them the opportunity to drive cutbacks across the board. Strip it right back to build it up again in a much cheaper, leaner and easier manageable version.

They seem happy to absorb certain losses through the books and it probably suits them that way so they are not arsed. They may even be using Rovers to filter off a few quid from the main corporation and into some offshore account as an unofficial divi or pension without scrutiny pot from shareholders or something.

There's no great conspiracy. Kean was infinitely cheaper than Allardyce and Coyle is presumably prepared to do it a lot cheaper than Warnock would have been.

The owners never learn it seems. However as has been correctly pointed out there's no benefit whatsoever to anyone in us doing badly, even if you subscribe to the theory we're deliberately being run for the benefit of agents.

There you go again with your veiled defense of Venkys and the badly advised line.

Kean cheaper than Allardyce ????????????

6 whole years and you still believe it's all down to a bit of bad advise, get some new coffee Revster

Did anyone have a bet on us to go down? (Just to clarify I mean from this board, not far flung betting syndicates).

Yep not really a betting man and certainly not on football but i was so brassed off in summer and so convinced we would i staked a few quid on it. Also 8-1 for us to finish rock bottom, maybe that won't happen but the rest you could see it coming a mile off and all things considered the season is panning out just as quite a few expected it would.

Anybody advising any owners or people running clubs would have said that would be the case. Strange that, i suppose the poor confused fools still aren't listening eh !

Then again........

The hidden partners/advisers have another feeding frenzy getting people off the wage bill and out the door in summer again like last time. I think it's as simple as that the club has been agents vehicle since this lot turned up and we've had an unbelievable amount of players, managers, coaching staff, directors etc through the doors,

All hired and most paid off, someones making money. Said this from the off i don't trust Coyle one bit and he has form for other people feeling the same the guys another imposter it was a rotten appointment right from the off. Only someone as desperate as Blackpool would've touched him yet he's here with his feet firmly under the table.

Venkys have turned their backs and gone hiding and left it to their buddies to sort out the mess and all they are bothered about is filling their pockets with %. Look at the guy who's just turned up another one who cannot give a straight answer to anything especially when it comes to how he got the job and meeting with specific people who own it. Then he goes on to mention partners, stakeholders and shareholders!!!!!

Why ?

Absolutely any other club in our position if it had the means to strengthen or change manager would 100% do so. All this gang are concerned with is getting as much as possible for the latest asset ! The parallels with Keans time here are too close for comfort and if this jerk doesn't relegate us this season he'll be sure to complete the job next.

Not much time for that Lockett myself after that fight. Towel should have been in pretty sharpish it was obvious he was getting hammered. Didn't help having Saunders/Furys and the rest of the plastic pikeys banging on the ring apron egging him on when he was out on his feet.

Getting back in the ring is all down to Blackwell though but that gym and those in it will come under scrutiny now, quite rightly.

Wilders been a bit in and out for me recently, decent performance then not so good although he's out injured at the min, due back Feb i think. Just like AJ and Fury he needs to be testing himself against the best now. Always got rid of what's been put in front of him though.

What was it 8-1 at the beginning of the season ?

Once scorrd the winner at Maine Road.....Poor player but better than Brown !

Brown went AWOL in front of goal everyweek and Curry went awol during the week lol If Curry had Browns effort and attitude back then he might have done ok though.